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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 2, 2008 18:24:27 GMT
E-mail Kelly Wright of the PGMOL (The Professional Game Match Officials Limited), which is the body responsible for providing officials for all professional games in the English leagues, to let them know what you think of the total incompetence of one of their referees this afternoon. Keep it clean, lads, eh (no matter how hard it is to do so in these circumstances)?
E-mail address: kwright@pgmol.com
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Post by r10ryx on Mar 2, 2008 18:28:06 GMT
It wont make any difference.... he will still be shit...
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Post by kinnell on Mar 2, 2008 18:29:27 GMT
He was awful for both sides actually, missing two clear penalties for them, as well as screwing up the sending off and giving the offside goal. Offal all round!
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Post by kidsgrovepotter on Mar 2, 2008 18:36:00 GMT
what can they do though aint going make him anyless shiter is it.
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Post by r10ryx on Mar 2, 2008 18:38:35 GMT
what can they do though aint going make him anyless shiter is it. My point exactly |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 2, 2008 18:54:07 GMT
I know it will make little difference. However, I feel better after venting. Im not holding my breath for a reply:
Dear Mr Kelly
I am a Stoke City fan but please dont let this fact cloud your judgement of the fact that Andy D'urso today made a decision that is without doubt the worst decision in Football I have ever seen in my time on this earth.
'I am just bitter' - you may say. Well, I am guilty of being disappointed at my team losing 3-0 today. However, the decision to send off Andy Griffin, the stoke city captain in the aforementioned game was nothing short of outrageous. If you can be bothered to look at the incident, you will clearly see that Griffin took the ball and NOT ANY part of the QPR player.
I was always of the opinion that referees can only 'give what they see' If you look at D'urso's position when Griffin took the ball, it is quite clear that he was not in a good position to see the tackle. How can he then, possibly send the man off? There was no appeals for any foul from the QPR players/bench/fans alike. Another clear indication that the so called 'tackle' was clean as the day is long. If you look at the incident carefully, it is clear that Grifin took the ball, took it under control and passed it to a stoke player. There was no contact from Griffin's boot and the QPR player. In fact, the boot of the QPR player raked down Griffin's leg.
This type of decision and utter incompetence could cost stoke city an awful lot. However, will D'urso have to face any music. NO! He will continue to referee with further incompetence. If players get it wrong, they get punished. Why not referees? You may say he has been demoted but why if he has been demoted must the lower league clubs suffer from his incompetence?
I am certain that Mr D'urso will face no action whatsoever for the bewildering red card he so easily flashed at Griffin. In my opinion, he should never referee again. No doubt, you will close ranks and give D'urso a pat on the back for flashing another red card. The cost to Stoke City FC though could be devastating.
It is refereeing displays like this that dampens the most enthusastic of fans. I pay to watch my team and NOT the attempts of a referee trying to make a further name of himself and to further enhance his career. A good referee is one you dont notice in a game. Well, today, Mr D'urso made it very clear to everyone that he was there.
Please feel free to pass this e-mail onto Mr D'urso himself. I have no doubt that he will pull a smug little smirk and put it into the recycle bin as fast as he flashed the red card to Andy Griffin.
Yours in total anger & bewilderment
SGS
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 2, 2008 18:56:27 GMT
My e-mail below - in answer to what they can do, they can get rid of the idiot so he doesn't have the chance to do this to us, or any other club, again. They employ him to perform a job he singularly failed to do today. He should be sacked.
"I am writing to express my total dismay at the level of incompetence shown today by Mr D’Urso in sending off Stoke City’s Andy Griffin for a challenge which was not even a foul, let alone one punishable by a red card.
Mr D’Urso’s speedy delivery of the card showed that, despite the fact he was too far away from the incident and his view of the tackle was obscured by Griffin’s back, he had decided, as soon as Griffin slid into the tackle, that he was going to send him off. This decision seems to have been made irrespective of the fact that the player won the ball cleanly and did not foul or injure the opposition player in doing so. Was this a “post-Eduardo” knee-jerk reaction? Are we destined to remove the art of tackling from our game, to turn the game of football into a non-contact sport? No one likes to see bad injuries to players, but equally hard, but fair, tackling is a vital part of our game.
Surely if the referee is unsighted, or unsure of what occurred, he needs to speak to the players involved and check with his assistant before reaching an informed decision, rather than taking unilateral action based on a distance view of an incident? For heaven’s sake, if rugby can move with technological developments and install a fourth official to be consulted on key decisions, who can quickly view video evidence and rely his thoughts back to the man in the middle, the same can be done for football.
I would imagine, if there is any justice, Andy Griffin’s red card will be rescinded on appeal, but the damage has been done today; the red card removed any realistic chance of Stoke City recovering in the second half from their two goal deficit. Stoke had done this not so long ago against Scunthorpe and gone on to win 3-2, so it can be done, and by this team. If Stoke City miss out on promotion to the Premier League by one point, it could cost the club millions of pounds and, indirectly, Mr D’Urso would have played a part in such failure. If, in my job as a lawyer, I had cost a client millions of pounds, I would expect, and no doubt would be, sacked, yet football match officials seem to be isolated from any repercussions of their incompetence, left to perpetrate further blatant errors week after week and match after match. I would like to know what action will be taken by the PGMO against Mr D’Urso for such an abject failure to perform his duties to a suitable level of competence – will he get suspended, will he be dropped from the Premier/Football League list, will he be retrained in the basic art of refereeing (which, having played to a reasonably high amateur level around the world, I acknowledge is a very difficult task)?
I look forward to hearing from the PGMO in reply. I will also be sending this e-mail, and any reply, to the Sports Editor of the Stoke Sentinel so that this issue can receive appropriate press coverage."
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 2, 2008 18:58:42 GMT
Was this a “post-Eduardo” knee-jerk reaction? That's exactly what it was, Jezza. And no doubt the clueless buffoon thought he'd be in line for lots of brownie points from the power-that-be for a "welcome hard line in the current climate" Sod the fact that he was in no position to see what had actually happened.  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 2, 2008 19:12:02 GMT
Remember when that Burnley player got sent off against Arsenal in the cup when it wasn't even a foul? That arrogant plank Graham Poll was in all the papers saying that maybe in the past he would have only got a booking for the foul but in the current climate a red was unavoidable. I bet he'll be doing the same for this one too.
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 3, 2008 8:35:02 GMT
Back to top in case any of the Monday to Friday lot want to send an e-mail.
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Post by Northy on Mar 3, 2008 9:43:53 GMT
surely the refere's assitant on that side could have stepped in and offered his view, which was clear, to Mr durso, 2 buffons in the incident not just the one.
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Post by troj on Mar 3, 2008 10:09:11 GMT
It takes a lot for me to write a letter of complaint - here's the reply
We are in receipt your email expressing your view of Mr D'Urso's performance in the Queens Park Rangers v Stoke City match and will ensure that these are passed to the Professional Game Match Officials - the body responsible for the management and administration of match officials and the Referees' Manager.
The Manager will analyse the performances from the data available and discuss this with the referee on a one-to-one basis. This data will include the match assessor's report (an assessor is present at every Football League match), the match video or DVD and, at some grounds, the Prozone statistics.
In the same way that a manager analyses his players' mistakes, and there are usually more of those than the referee, he also works with his officials in a bid to constantly improve standards in a game which has become faster and more frenetic over recent years. Every match is recorded and referees are under closer scrutiny than ever before.
Contrary to expectations, the Referees' Manager will not attempt to support a referee out of sheer loyalty. It is his responsibility through Professional Game Match Officials to identify training needs of not only individual referees but also of all National Group officials.
Referees who fail to achieve the expected standard have always been, and will continue to be, removed from the National List should their performances over the season not be up to the required standard.
We are constantly trying to improve and maintain refereeing standards and do not take your comments lightly.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Patricia Brown
Customer Services
The Football League
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Post by tuum on Mar 3, 2008 16:44:13 GMT
That reply look suspiciously like the one received by a Stoke fan earlier in the week in response to the Preston game.
Cut-paste-point-click-send....isn't technology wonderful?
Whilst I acknowledge the ref was shite I do think we are in danger of getting up or own arses with all this complaining that we do when someone "disses" Stoke whether it be a referee, Sky TV or a pundit on Central TV.
I admire you guys who feel so strongly about this that you feel the need to complain..I wish I had half your emotion/enthusiasm!
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 3, 2008 17:01:26 GMT
Lucky you. Ive received no reply which I will take as an admission that Im 100% right. ;D
SGS
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 3, 2008 17:07:55 GMT
Kinnell do you practise spewing shit?
The ref was at fault for the offside goal was he??
Pretty much agree don't see the point personally as is plain for all to see that he cocked up- see your point Jezza re him not speaking to anyone-was watching with another Stoke fan who said straight away he's going to send him off as he couldn't run over and get his card out quick enough.
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