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Post by dadofsam on Feb 29, 2008 8:29:16 GMT
He's taking the place on the bench that should be going to a young player learning the ropes.
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 8:49:40 GMT
I think there isnt a Stoke fan in the world who wouldnt want Parkin to succeed. We ALL want him banging them in, he could become a Stoke cult hero. He is one of us, he likes a beer, wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper lad. I like him. On the flip side I'd also advocate that he never wears a Stoke shirt ever again. He is out of condition, is carrying too much weight and is essentially a professional athlete with a double chin and a beer belly. He is immobile, lacks pace and simply doesnt fit our system. This was apparent in the game he started at St James Park and his recent sub appearances. He is on what, say 10K a month perhaps, and looks like a darts player. The excuse that he is big-boned doesnt wash, he is unfit, over-weight and clearly taking the piss. I dont care how much weight he has lost, he hasnt lost enough. And so fucking what if he has had to move. Barnsley is an hour and a bit away. I'm 230 miles away from my ill father and have to deal with that. Lets stop making excuses for the fucker. He is an embarrassment to the club. Only HE can address this by improvinh his fitness, losing weight and looking like he is bothered. No one dounts his ability as a footballer, I do however have misgivings about his attitude. You really do talk some nonsense. Tazi, care to elaborate? You seem fairly outnumbered on this thread?
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 29, 2008 9:03:52 GMT
"Personally I would assume that Pulis is the man to make any judgements and I doubt whether he would entertain anybody who is permanently unfit through lack of effort.
Just what Parkin has been done to be called a "fucker" is beyond me."
Err, being permanently unfit through lack of effort maybe?
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 9:06:25 GMT
I think there isnt a Stoke fan in the world who wouldnt want Parkin to succeed. We ALL want him banging them in, he could become a Stoke cult hero. He is one of us, he likes a beer, wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper lad. I like him. On the flip side I'd also advocate that he never wears a Stoke shirt ever again. He is out of condition, is carrying too much weight and is essentially a professional athlete with a double chin and a beer belly. He is immobile, lacks pace and simply doesnt fit our system. This was apparent in the game he started at St James Park and his recent sub appearances. He is on what, say 10K a month perhaps, and looks like a darts player. The excuse that he is big-boned doesnt wash, he is unfit, over-weight and clearly taking the piss. I dont care how much weight he has lost, he hasnt lost enough. And so fucking what if he has had to move. Barnsley is an hour and a bit away. I'm 230 miles away from my ill father and have to deal with that. Lets stop making excuses for the fucker. He is an embarrassment to the club. Only HE can address this by improvinh his fitness, losing weight and looking like he is bothered. No one dounts his ability as a footballer, I do however have misgivings about his attitude. Thats a bit of a rant about a player or person that you dont know, and dont appear to give any credit to for anything.. Parkin hasnt had a run in the first team at all and therefore cannot be judged as such. Personally I would assume that Pulis is the man to make any judgements and I doubt whether he would entertain anybody who is permanently unfit through lack of effort. Just what Parkin has been done to be called a "fucker" is beyond me. Swampy, as acknowledged in my opening statement I like Parkin. He seems a really decent lad. I want him to succeed. He is a contracted professional at SCFC and Pulis has to like him, he made him the first permanent signing of the summer. Parkin is out of condition. He has had a full pre-season to get fit, to shed weight and to look like a professional footballer. He isnt match fit, not even close, and doesnt look like a professional footballer. I know he hasnt had a run of games in the first team but neither have Dicko, Wilko, De Laet and many other lads in the reserve team who look like they can last 90 minutes. Contrast Parkin with Delap and Eustace. Both returned from career-threatening injuries in decent shape, especially Delap. SJE carried a bit of tumber but it soon disappeared. Parkin has all the ability in the world. I'd love him to lead the line and score 20 goals a season. This is part of my frustration, he has it, and doesnt use it. If he really wanted it, he'd be in the best shape of his life. He is seemingly content to laugh and joke after reserve games and conveys the image of being a top bloke, but lazy, out of shape player taking the best part of a half a million quid out of this club and I'm afraid that doesnt sit easily with me. Thats why he is a "fucker" in my eyes. I could say the same about Pericard but this post isnt about Pericard.
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Post by tazi on Feb 29, 2008 9:29:55 GMT
You really do talk some nonsense. Tazi, care to elaborate? You seem fairly outnumbered on this thread? Same as i say "you do talk some nonsense". Notice the word SOME?. Some meaning that Parkin is not fat and neither is has he essentially got a double chin and beer belly etc etc. How you can say that i have being outnumbered on this thread really does appear to sum you up because he aint fat whatsoever. In short, parts of your arguments and thoughts about Jon Parkin are flawed.
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 9:52:55 GMT
Tazi, care to elaborate? You seem fairly outnumbered on this thread? Same as i say "you do talk some nonsense". Notice the word SOME?. Some meaning that Parkin is not fat and neither is has he essentially got a double chin and beer belly etc etc. How you can say that i have being outnumbered on this thread really does appear to sum you up because he aint fat whatsoever. In short, parts of your arguments and thoughts about Jon Parkin are flawed. Tazi. Answer this. And be honest. If Parkin had been in our first team from day one at Cardiff to PNE on Tuesday do you think Stoke would be top of the league and seriously challenging for promotion? You are of course right. I know he isn't fat in the true sense of the word. He is not morbidly obese and his BMI will be a lot, lot better than mine. He is however a professional athlete and his conditioning (be that muscle bulk or body fat) is appalling. He is carrying about two stone too much weight. However that weight is derived is irrelevant. He also lacks any kind of stamina, and on Tuesday looked knackered after only fifteen minutes on the pitch. I dont dislike Parkin, I really dont, he could potentially, be the best finisher at the club and he has bags of ability. He is however conning me, thee and every other Stokie by not doing enough to displace a lad who has only scored one goal all season and who, as per board sentiment, couldnt his a barn fucking door. A fit Parkin would make us a far better bet for automatic promotion. Would you be happy him deputising for RF when his inevitable suspension happens? I wouldnt. The lad has no running in him. We'll agree to disagree, and in hindsight I'm probably being overly zealous about him. I just have a problem spending my hard earned following Stoke and watching a lad who could be a cult hero sadly rotting on the bench and in the stiffs. I fear this is down to his attitude rather than anything else. All the evidence suggests this. Even TP has been on record about it and Hull fans were laughing their bollocks off when we took him. The lad could be mustard. When he is my age, 40, he'll look back and think what a fucking waste of talent.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 29, 2008 11:31:58 GMT
Don't be tempering your argument Dave, as you are absolutely spot in with your original comments.
Parkin is a useless waste of space who is pissing his ability up the wall. He offers us absolutely nothing of any note, evidenced again by his shambolic efforts v Preston on Tuesday night, and the sooner he is phucked off the better it will be for all concerned.
It was reported that he had to move to Stoke to seal his transfer...This hasn't happened and he travels to training, from his Barnsley base, with Cressy.
The man is a waster, but Tazi loves a lost cause. He has even been known to advocate the merits of Peter Sweeney!
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 29, 2008 11:37:37 GMT
I don't really see what him moving to Stoke would do to be honest, even if it is in his contract. Unless he moves into the spare room at the Pulis household I doubt we can keep an eye on him. Perhaps Wright's pies are healthier than their Barnsley counterparts?
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 29, 2008 11:38:06 GMT
It was reported that he had to move to Stoke to seal his transfer...This hasn't happened and he travels to training, from his Barnsley base, with Cressy. I remember him saying that he traveled into training with Cresswell in an interview earlier in the season. Has he definitely not moved to the area then? Are you sure that they travel in together from Yorkshire, and haven't both moved more local? Wasn't that supposedly one of the absolute keys to the move - getting him away from his Barnsley mates and permanently based 'round here?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 29, 2008 11:45:33 GMT
Fuller...He lives in Barnsley mate (Cressy in Sheffield) and they travel into to training daily together.
This much was true after the Newcastle cup game, because Cressy referred to Parkin being inconsoleable after his miss againt the Geordies on his way home, and also made reference to how he was ribbing him about it on their daily jaunt to training from their Yorkshire homes.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 29, 2008 11:47:06 GMT
So much for Pulis laying down the law to him about moving to the area then
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 29, 2008 11:49:21 GMT
To summarise ...Parkin is at least 40lb overweight without the remotest intention of doing sod all about it..
His skill level can be quite good at times...but this is totally overshadowed by his weight problem'
He has had ample time to sort this out, but has failed to do so... That's why he is affectionately called a 'fat fucker' which is a pretty accurate appraisal, given the circumstances.
Overall contribution this year...Minimal and uninspiring...
Needs shipping out asap....!
Next to fucking hopeless.
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Post by andylgr on Feb 29, 2008 11:51:40 GMT
Think back to this time last year and he looked confident, and he was scoring for us. Clearly he has the ability and is a different option to Sidibe, give Parkin the ball to his feet and he can hold it up well and bring other players in. But to my way of thinking, last years he was probably making a bigger effort to get the move he wanted and to impress. Now thats hes here permanently hes lost the will to perform and that is down to attitude in my opinion.
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 12:26:11 GMT
Parkin could star in his own TV show, "Life on Mars (Bars)" - he is essentially a 1970s footballer living in 2008.
He is off the pace. This is probably due to his liking of John Player Special, Double Diamond, Watneys and Vesta Curry.
John Parkin wouldnt get in the Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea youth sides let alone anywhere near their respective reserve teams.
He bears no resemblance to a modern day footballer.
This is a man who will be contracted to a Premiership team in c11 games time. God willing.
Even Sammy fucking Irvine was slimmer. And he was the worst Stoke player Ive ever seen playing in 1978 !
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Post by tazi on Feb 29, 2008 16:55:52 GMT
GeordieDave.
I really have no desire in reading all of that you had typed let alone answering those questions that you raised because afterall all that i had done was question parts of one of your posts that you had posted, which in all fairness "same as you have now admitted" were in fact not truthful.
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Post by r10ryx on Feb 29, 2008 16:57:14 GMT
Simple.... Parkin OUT....
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 17:00:57 GMT
GeordieDave. I really have no desire in reading all of that you had typed let alone answering those questions that you raised because afterall all that i had done was question parts of one of your posts that you had posted, which in all fairness "same as you have now admitted" were in fact not truthful. Thanks for that Tazi, I dont know how I'll sleep tonight.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Feb 29, 2008 17:26:00 GMT
Ye its a shame really, he looks to have genuine talent alrite but just doesnt have the commitment to actually get off his fat arse and lose some weight. As for comparing him to Pericard, well at least Parkin has some talent, Pericard couldnt kick snow off a rope!
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Post by tazi on Feb 29, 2008 18:38:29 GMT
GeordieDave. I really have no desire in reading all of that you had typed let alone answering those questions that you raised because afterall all that i had done was question parts of one of your posts that you had posted, which in all fairness "same as you have now admitted" were in fact not truthful. Thanks for that Tazi, I dont know how I'll sleep tonight. There be no dreaming up yet more bullshit, at least for tonight then!. ;D
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 29, 2008 21:22:36 GMT
Thanks for that Tazi, I dont know how I'll sleep tonight. There be no dreaming up yet more bullshit, at least for tonight then!. Meanwhile back in Taziland Tazi sleeps soundly dreaming of his first choice forward line of Parkin, Sweeney, Bamber and Gerry McMahon ...... Out comes the wank-sock, mmmmmm a nice sex wee over Parkin, my hero ..... ;D
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