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Post by chuffed on Feb 28, 2008 10:30:42 GMT
At the beginning of the season TP said he needed to get fit and moving house down to stoke was also part of the deal. Early on in the season, we had the benefit of Radio stokes Nigel johnson asking the 'is parkin fit yet' questions, these issues seem to have gone off the radar and we can only speculate about things on this board. I can remember his initial spell last season when he burst on the scene, his goals were fantastic, And I think he was heavier then than now, so perhaps its low confidence or somthing, has he moved down here ? is he home sick for his 'great crew' of mates TP said he had back home ? It would be a pity for him to drift off into obscurity when I think hes got 'something' that at the moment Stoke cant seem to get him to produce.
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Post by miffmister on Feb 28, 2008 10:33:52 GMT
Dont normally moan about our players but, He is a piss poor professional. If he was a Dr he would be struck off!!!!
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Post by chuffed on Feb 28, 2008 10:42:38 GMT
When you say he is a 'piss poor professional' what are you basing that on? his performance ?
Lack of goals ? or have you been watching him train ? I havent seen him train, and I dont think hes played a full game yet as he?
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Post by GeordieDave on Feb 28, 2008 10:45:50 GMT
I think there isnt a Stoke fan in the world who wouldnt want Parkin to succeed. We ALL want him banging them in, he could become a Stoke cult hero. He is one of us, he likes a beer, wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper lad. I like him.
On the flip side I'd also advocate that he never wears a Stoke shirt ever again. He is out of condition, is carrying too much weight and is essentially a professional athlete with a double chin and a beer belly.
He is immobile, lacks pace and simply doesnt fit our system. This was apparent in the game he started at St James Park and his recent sub appearances.
He is on what, say 10K a month perhaps, and looks like a darts player.
The excuse that he is big-boned doesnt wash, he is unfit, over-weight and clearly taking the piss.
I dont care how much weight he has lost, he hasnt lost enough. And so fucking what if he has had to move. Barnsley is an hour and a bit away. I'm 230 miles away from my ill father and have to deal with that.
Lets stop making excuses for the fucker. He is an embarrassment to the club. Only HE can address this by improvinh his fitness, losing weight and looking like he is bothered.
No one dounts his ability as a footballer, I do however have misgivings about his attitude.
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Post by miffmister on Feb 28, 2008 10:53:25 GMT
Was going to reply but Geordi says it all, I base it on him being unfit and a PISS POOR PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLER!!!!!!! What part of that dont you get Chuffed????
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 28, 2008 11:16:10 GMT
Ive got no intrest in parkin he's a waste of space i dont know why we pay his wages.He obviously carnt be arsed to get fit everytime you see him he seems to be bigger.Carnt afford to carry players with no intent on gettin fit.
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Post by growler on Feb 28, 2008 11:28:47 GMT
Played regularly he is still more of a threat than Sidibe though.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 28, 2008 11:35:52 GMT
I watched him for the reserves yesterday and he did make me laugh. He is a proper lad like, when he messed up and didn't controll a ball which happened a lot he was like shit, fucking hell etc bit like how you or I would react on a park on a Sunday, also ahd banter with the linner about an offfside decision. At half time, he left the dressing room after around 5minutes, and was texting on his phone having a giggle with Dicko (who called him Kane, supposing after the WWE wrester) After the game he was speaking to on of the Forest lads, who had commented on how much weight eh ahd loss. Also he said he was knakered from playing the night before.
I dont think he's as fit as he can be...and after been here for since the summer, its pretty poor. Don't if its just him not wanting to be fit, or whether he's pushing the boundries, well no-ones on the cochin side is saying naything, i can carry on as I am doing!
When he was here on loan, he did score but he ahd a point to prove, he played out of his skin, he needed to get a contract. SO is it now, he's got a contract he's happy.
He does seem like he wants to be playing football..but isn't doing anytihng bout it.
In the gym it looks like he is doing weight work to get rid of the fat, you can tell this from how he's still got his big frame, hes gone from fat to beefing up a bit, and as lot of people still confuse tis with fat. me included until yesterday! He needs a lot of cardio work!
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 28, 2008 11:38:48 GMT
in reference to the sidibie comement...
its often said that Parkin as only been under performing because he's played in the wrong role....he should be in the box and not doing the sidibie role...for the reserves he flicked a lot of balls on yesterday and I think with a little more fitness and athleticism he could play the Mama role
Whereas Mama is an athlete and not a footballer, Parkin is a footballer and not an athlete...
In my opinion its easier to add athleticism to parkins game than it is to add football to mamas
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 28, 2008 12:04:35 GMT
Growler are you fuckin pissed or blind?
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Post by stokesaint1 on Feb 28, 2008 12:08:22 GMT
I also watched Parkin in the reserves yesterday and apart from the goal where he made space in the box, by pushing the young opposing centre half off the ball with his huge backside, his contribution was minimal, in fact about equal to that of Pericard. These guys don't even look up to reserve standard and the sooner they are both gone and off the payroll the better. It was embarassing sitting in the stand at Newcastle seeing and listening to the Stoke junior players taking the pee out of Parkin and, in all honesty, he gave them loads of opportunities to do so. Loan him to Vale or Crewe, just get rid and send Pericard with him. To see him plodding around the field looking completely disinterested and totally ineffective must be really demotivating for the likes of young Jimmy Phillips, who showed lots of skill and worked his nuts off and could be a real find for the future. Get rid of the likes of Parkin and Pericard and let the kids play in the reserves. Young Diao, Jimmy Phillips, De Laet, Grocott, keeper Hamilton and Thornley all look like they could make the grade, given opportunity and game time with decent commited senior pros.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 28, 2008 12:50:21 GMT
He aint fit to wear the shirt
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Post by s8to on Feb 28, 2008 12:58:07 GMT
Hope TP phones up Ramos for some advice on this issue!!
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Post by miltonstokie on Feb 28, 2008 13:03:20 GMT
I heard he has infact been spending a serious amount of time in the gym on the new machine ...... He loves it , its got kitkats, niknaks, mars bars, everything.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 28, 2008 13:33:52 GMT
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 28, 2008 13:43:35 GMT
"I dont think hes played a full game yet as he?"
He can't play a full game because he doesn't have anywhere near the fitness. At Palace away he came on after about 55 mins for Fuller, and looked ready to be subbed through fatigue at 75 minutes. With players returning from injury you have to just give them games to get "match" fit, but with Parkin, he isn't even training ground fit. I can't believe TP stands for it really, send him to boot camp or something.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 28, 2008 13:49:07 GMT
He needs more than boot camp mate,sure he was on a slimfast advert the other day might of been mistaken tho ha  |
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Post by frosty on Feb 28, 2008 14:00:34 GMT
TP should dock his wages until fit, one thing carrying an injury but unfit professional footballer no excuse
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Feb 28, 2008 14:11:02 GMT
He sounds like he would be ideal in the team structure as the kit manager..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 14:12:37 GMT
He had enough natural talent at Barnsley, York and Macclesfield to get by without being fit. But at Championship level he is being found out through lack of fitness. He can't manage 90 minutes which surely should be a basic requirement. Even so he now has his first and possibly his only shot at playing in the Premiership. Even a player as talented as Gascoigne had to keep his weight down to play at Premiership level. Parkin has some natural talent, but he is no Gascoigne. If I was him I'd be on lettuce and water and down at the gym every day.
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Post by frosty on Feb 28, 2008 14:15:42 GMT
yes but if he gets away with it why should he bother
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Post by bobafett on Feb 28, 2008 15:20:55 GMT
Parkin's let me down as I was quite chuffed when we signed him and expected him to bang in a few goals for us this season . The bloke has got ability but is STILL clearly not fit and now seem's to be suffering a lack of confidence too . I don't watch the reserves so i've no idea how he's been performing for them but when he came on at Preston his touch was bad and his head was down . I really hope he can produce the good's at stoke and I do think that it's done him no favours when TP has played him in the sidibe role but he doesn't have the pace for the Fuller role . Maybe it's fate that Parkin will come on in the last game of the season and score the goal that win's the league , let's hope so !!!
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Post by growler on Feb 28, 2008 21:05:56 GMT
Ponta, has he not scored more than Mama this season? And he is capable of delivering passes that Mama only dreams of. Play to Parkin's strengths and he is far better than goal machine Sidibe whose continual inclusion could cost us promotion. Please don't come back with that old nonsense about Sidibe being more of a midfielder either.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 28, 2008 21:51:22 GMT
I think there isnt a Stoke fan in the world who wouldnt want Parkin to succeed. We ALL want him banging them in, he could become a Stoke cult hero. He is one of us, he likes a beer, wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper lad. I like him. On the flip side I'd also advocate that he never wears a Stoke shirt ever again. He is out of condition, is carrying too much weight and is essentially a professional athlete with a double chin and a beer belly. He is immobile, lacks pace and simply doesnt fit our system. This was apparent in the game he started at St James Park and his recent sub appearances. He is on what, say 10K a month perhaps, and looks like a darts player. The excuse that he is big-boned doesnt wash, he is unfit, over-weight and clearly taking the piss. I dont care how much weight he has lost, he hasnt lost enough. And so fucking what if he has had to move. Barnsley is an hour and a bit away. I'm 230 miles away from my ill father and have to deal with that. Lets stop making excuses for the fucker. He is an embarrassment to the club. Only HE can address this by improvinh his fitness, losing weight and looking like he is bothered. No one dounts his ability as a footballer, I do however have misgivings about his attitude. Thats a bit of a rant about a player or person that you dont know, and dont appear to give any credit to for anything.. Parkin hasnt had a run in the first team at all and therefore cannot be judged as such. Personally I would assume that Pulis is the man to make any judgements and I doubt whether he would entertain anybody who is permanently unfit through lack of effort. Just what Parkin has been done to be called a "fucker" is beyond me. |
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Post by madeleyite on Feb 28, 2008 21:57:53 GMT
Parkin can provide the moment of genius no-one else can, not even Fuller. Could have made the difference on Tues - he's committed, and Fuller wasn't fucking interested. Soooo close against the geordies. I'd play him up front every week with RF - but that's just me.
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Post by tazi on Feb 28, 2008 22:06:29 GMT
I think there isnt a Stoke fan in the world who wouldnt want Parkin to succeed. We ALL want him banging them in, he could become a Stoke cult hero. He is one of us, he likes a beer, wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper lad. I like him. On the flip side I'd also advocate that he never wears a Stoke shirt ever again. He is out of condition, is carrying too much weight and is essentially a professional athlete with a double chin and a beer belly. He is immobile, lacks pace and simply doesnt fit our system. This was apparent in the game he started at St James Park and his recent sub appearances. He is on what, say 10K a month perhaps, and looks like a darts player. The excuse that he is big-boned doesnt wash, he is unfit, over-weight and clearly taking the piss. I dont care how much weight he has lost, he hasnt lost enough. And so fucking what if he has had to move. Barnsley is an hour and a bit away. I'm 230 miles away from my ill father and have to deal with that. Lets stop making excuses for the fucker. He is an embarrassment to the club. Only HE can address this by improvinh his fitness, losing weight and looking like he is bothered. No one dounts his ability as a footballer, I do however have misgivings about his attitude. You really do talk some nonsense. |
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Post by Goarn ROORRRRYYYY! on Feb 28, 2008 22:59:24 GMT
He's a fat twatter who should never be aloud back onto a football pitch, getting paid for pilin' the pies down at world record pace. |
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Post by trend....... on Feb 28, 2008 23:00:28 GMT
PARKIN IS THE DOGS BOLLOCKS. LOOK AT HIM... HE IS AWESOME. |
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Post by chuffed on Feb 28, 2008 23:28:20 GMT
TP obviously rates Parkin, hes always in the team, if only usually on the bench, and we never hear of any conflict or rumours of players (ie Parkin) being unhappy. Parkin seems to come in for a lot more critisism than Pericard for some reason, Pericard never even gets a run out these days!!! I hope that if Parkin gets enough chances, sub or whatever, he scores and develops into the player we all hope he can be. We have all had a glimpse last season.
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Post by Godo on Feb 29, 2008 8:06:20 GMT
If Mama got an injury then that is one of the things that would make me lose confidence that we would get promoted this season because he is so essential to how Pulis plays, regardless of his goals to game ratio, but if Parkin went on loan to Huddersfield or whoever for the rest of his contract then I wouldn't give a fook!
Whether it's attitude or lack of athletic ability the fact remains that he is totally unsuited to our style of play and when he has started or come off the bench has looked disinterested and lacking in determination. A-teen, perhaps his reaction on the pitch is llke yours but it's not how mine would be - if I got the chance to pull on the shirt I'd be running round like a rotweiller on PCP not waddling around and giving up on every ball that went more than 3 yards away from me!
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