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Post by knowles on Feb 28, 2008 10:08:46 GMT
You might be interested in this... Now Bury's Rooney is a hit Trevor Baxter 28/ 2/2008 THE name is Rooney - Adam, not Wayne, and their soccer worlds are poles apart. But after scoring his first goal of his loan spell at Bury, the 20-year-old Irishman couldn't care less. And his late equaliser at Mansfield on Tuesday could prove priceless in the Shakers fight to avoid the drop from League Two. He'd previously gone five games without netting since joining on loan from Stoke. And after last Saturday's defeat against Darlington, Rooney was dropped by manager Alan Knill. "I showed him the first four minutes against Darlington," explained Knill. "That wasn't Adam Rooney - no work ethic, no tempo. "I told him I was leaving him out and that Glynn Hurst was starting. Now, I've got a problem for Peterborough this Saturday. "But I wanted that competition. Adam hasn't played as well as he expected but he keeps going. "He is one of those kids who loves to work. He will have a good career and, hopefully, he will score more goals for us." Rooney recently played for the Republic of Ireland Under- 21's against England at St Mary's Stadium. He also scored six times while on loan at Chesterfield when Knill was assistant boss. Just for good measure the red-headed marksman blasted a Championship hat-trick while at Stoke. So it was a minor coup for Knill to bring Rooney to Gigg Lane. "There was a couple of clubs after me but I knew the manager from Chesterfield," he explained. "I liked the way he worked and the way he helped me at Chesterfield. " There's no point in staying at Stoke and sitting in the reserves. To get out and play is the main thing for me. "I want to do as well here so, hopefully, Bury might extend the loan. I'm sure Stoke won't mind. "I see myself as a goal scorer but I didn't show it at first. I have a knack of scoring but haven't had many chances. "When I get them I will put them away." And on his namesake Wayne? "People think I'm related to Wayne. They all seem to think I'm his brother or cousin, even though I look nothing like him. "But all I've got in common with Wayne is the surname and we're both strikers, only he plays for the biggest club in England and I'm playing for their neighbours who are fighting to stay in the Football League." www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/bury/s/1038558_now_burys_rooney_is_a_hit |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 28, 2008 10:14:58 GMT
The classic - 'wrong time, wrong place' for Adam Rooney. Only a short time ago he would have walked into the first team and how many Stoke players have had so few opportunities after getting a hat-trick in an away game!
For his own sake, it is time for him to move on, but I can't help thinking that like Patterson before him, he never got a fair crack of the whip at Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 10:36:32 GMT
The locals really rate him in these parts. Might even venture across to Gigg Lane to see him in action one weekend.
What he lacks in pace he makes up in heart and I think he'll forge a decnt career in the lower leagues. Without great pace can't see himdoing anymore than that though........
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Post by fca47 on Feb 28, 2008 10:48:30 GMT
Seem to remember someone called John Ritchie, who didn't have a great deal of pace, didn't he score a few for Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 10:51:29 GMT
Football's moved on since the Ritchie days. Any half decent footballer with a good engine and pace can make a living out of the game these days (Robbie Savage for example). No-marks like that wouldn't have got a look in in the 70's I'm assuming you're not comparing John Ritchie to Adam Rooney by the way??  |
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Post by fca47 on Feb 28, 2008 10:57:57 GMT
It hasn't moved on that much. A goalscorer is a goalscorer in any age. Pericard and Mama have pace but you can't teach them to score. He has the instinct, they haven't. The style of play does matter though. If we expect him to run around like an idiot chasing lost causes like Mama, then no he won't score, but I bet if he had been presented with some of the chances we had on Tuesday he would have buried them.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2008 11:09:37 GMT
Don't let is build Rooney up as being the answer to our prayers. He has been at Chesterfield and Bury for about 30 games and has scored 7 goals. That is ok but not what you would want of a Championship striker. Put it this way, if TP had just signed a div 2 striker who had scored 7 this season would you be getting excited? I think not.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 28, 2008 11:39:49 GMT
Don't let is build Rooney up as being the answer to our prayers. He has been at Chesterfield and Bury for about 30 games and has scored 7 goals. That is ok but not what you would want of a Championship striker. Put it this way, if TP had just signed a div 2 striker who had scored 7 this season would you be getting excited? I think not. And in nearly half those games he has been a sub add in the fact has a very good scoring record with the irish u-21's and I'd say he was a better bet than Pericard or Parkin and worth keeping hold off and not writing off like some people on here are happy to do. |
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Post by mikeyb99 on Feb 28, 2008 12:07:20 GMT
Anyone get the feeling that Rooney is another player paying the penalty for being in Boskamp's Stoke side? Anyone Boskamp singned/played from the youth set-up have been ignominiously moved along.
There has got to be more of a striker in Rooney than in Parkin and Pericard combined.
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Post by bobafett on Feb 28, 2008 14:44:06 GMT
Rooney isn't in the stoke side because he's not good enough . I wish the lad well but i don't think he'll ever make it above the level he's at now .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 14:52:16 GMT
I would happily see young Rooney sit on the bench week in week out above John Parkin
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2008 14:53:52 GMT
followyoudown, the fact that so many of Rooney's games have been as a sub at Chesterfield and Bury (and last season at Yeovil) is no co-incidence. Three managers of lower league clubs have not thought he merited regular starts. However, he is certainly better than Pericard - but that means little as Pericard doesn't make our bench these days. Parkin gets only the odd few minutes on the pitch - should Rooney get any more if he were at Stoke when we are winning most of our games? The odd few minutes on the pitch is not what a young player like Rooney needs at this stage of his career.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 28, 2008 15:44:19 GMT
fornside there are many reasons why he could have been sub Lester for example at Chesterfield has 20+ goals, some managers don't like playing young players thank goodness we don't have one at our club  I've incidentially not suggested putting him in the time what I said was he's a better bet than Parkin or Pericard and don't think he should be written off like so many people did to Patterson. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2008 15:48:59 GMT
Prestwich and fyd, don't you think that Rooney himself might not be happy (nor might he develop his game) if he spent as much time on the Stoke bench as Parkin does? Young players need games and if a youngster of 20 is not ready to get a decent number of games for our side then they are better going out on loan to a side where they will get more minutes on the pitch.
EDIT - I have not written Rooney off - I just don't think he is ready for regular football in our side and in my opinion he'll have more chance of developing his career getting starts at Chesterfield and Bury than he will on our bench.
We are not the only club to loan our young players, you know. All clubs do it from the top of the Prem to the bottom of Div 2 and it benfits the players and the clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 15:57:58 GMT
As I said before his lack of pace will be to his detrement and I believe he will forge a career in the lower leagues, nowt wrong with that.
However, I would have no qualms on seeing him thrown on for the last 20 mins of any game if the only alternative is John Parkin......
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Post by r10ryx on Feb 28, 2008 15:59:37 GMT
shame for the lad that he isnt first team for stoke... but not every1 can be
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Post by Fred Astaire on Feb 28, 2008 19:31:23 GMT
Would also rather see him on our bench any day instead of Porkin or Pericard. But agree that it is better for him to be out there playing games than sat here doing nowt.
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Post by Parksy on Feb 28, 2008 20:28:34 GMT
Can't we have Rooney sat warming our bench up for 30 games and popping on to score 7 goals instead of Porkin and Pericant. They can fook off and appear for someone else instead ;D |
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Post by nonameface on Feb 28, 2008 21:11:14 GMT
I haven't seen enough of Rooney to comment, I've only ever seen him play for the first team when Boskamp was here. At that time he wasn't good enough to appear for us and looked toothless and too slow. There has been alot of time since and he may have improved, hes more than likely going to have. I would hope that we keep on to him and loan him out for another year to see what sort of a player he could be.
If by end of 2008/2009 season he isn't showing anything then we could look to move him on. Whats more than likely going to happen however is that he gets moved on this summer.
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Post by mikeyb99 on Feb 28, 2008 21:19:46 GMT
Rooney has never looked anything except extremely good in a Stoke shirt. He was excellent when Boskamp played him at the end of the season. The last striker to score a hat-trick before Fuller? Rooney. No mean feat IMO.
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Post by Goarn ROORRRRYYYY! on Feb 28, 2008 23:02:46 GMT
Overrated player, not good enough to even get on our bench, looks like he's found his level, League 2.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Feb 28, 2008 23:17:15 GMT
Whatever Rooney becomes he is better than Parkin now
However he needs regular football - give him the ball in front of goal and he will score - his record (for starts) says so
Better for his career to be at Bury
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