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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 26, 2008 7:07:43 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A32791368 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What's Coates worth these days? I've read upwards of 100m. I thought it was nice that a shit fan noticed us to be honest.
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Post by daverichards on Feb 26, 2008 7:13:18 GMT
The Coates family is worth around £190M I think, about the same as Dave Whelan
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 26, 2008 7:14:29 GMT
Coates AND HIS FAMILY are worth upwards of £100 million but most of that will be tied up in Bet365 so it isn't ready cash to be spent on Stoke. The thing we DO have going for us is that we are virtually debt free unlike most clubs who get promoted to the Premiership so, hopefully, a big wedge of the increased TV fees, gate receipts and merchandising profits (a total of £40 million ish?) will be available to spend on the playing side (fees and wages). If Coates managed to bring another investor on board that would be even better.
We'll struggle like most promoted clubs but we should not be a basket case like Derby. We have a CHANCE of staying up which would be nice.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 26, 2008 7:16:30 GMT
What are the Sky revenues first year and are they thrown at you up front?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 26, 2008 7:20:02 GMT
They are £30 million fees just for being there. I don't know if they are paid up front or in installments. Above that there are payments (£500k?) for each place above bottom place (paid at the end of the season) and of course, the ridiculous parachute payments of £11 million a year for two years after relegation.
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Post by daverichards on Feb 26, 2008 7:23:36 GMT
plus about £1M for each live game with a minimum number shown on TV
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 26, 2008 7:25:58 GMT
What chance Coates turns round to the family and says
"look, this is about as good as it gets for a 70 year old bloke, let me spend my $XXm, watch my club consolidate at this level and after that you can reap the rewards"
Is that ticking too many 'tgtbt' boxes??
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 26, 2008 7:29:43 GMT
As far as I can see none of Coates' family are Stokies. I'd like to know what his end game is as he gets close to shuffling off this mortal coil! Will he flog the club (or most of it) to a third party at some point and leave the cash to his family (or to the local cats and dogs home) or will he leave them a club which they have no interest in?
Of course, promotion to the Premiership might convert the family to being fans - just the prospect already seems to be converting a few ordinary residents of North Staffs!!!
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 26, 2008 7:33:45 GMT
One thought he went for the CW postcode.
Family are probably embarrassed that daddy still wastes his time associating with ST postcode folk.
WTF would happen if we became owned by a cats home though??
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 26, 2008 7:40:35 GMT
I think being owned by a cats and dogs home would be great. I may suggest it if I can get to the next AGM!
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Post by dexter97 on Feb 26, 2008 8:25:28 GMT
WTF would happen if we became owned by a cats home though?? That would be purrfect! |
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Post by nonameface on Feb 26, 2008 8:46:44 GMT
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Post by Silverdale on Feb 26, 2008 9:01:24 GMT
No not a dogs home , that would be rough!
I'll get me coat!
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Post by soicowboy on Feb 26, 2008 9:56:17 GMT
Worry is - dog's home might take over Bristol Rovers  |
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Post by stokiematt on Feb 26, 2008 10:04:53 GMT
 i quite like him personaly ;D
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Feb 26, 2008 10:11:55 GMT
Fornside, Whats the betting that the parachute payments will be cancelled if we are promoted. What do you reckon the value of the club would be WHEN we get promoted? |
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Post by RAF on Feb 26, 2008 10:14:09 GMT
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Post by stokiematt on Feb 26, 2008 10:14:47 GMT
thats alot of 1p chews |
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Post by muckakev on Feb 26, 2008 10:15:19 GMT
Worry is - dog's home might take over Bristol Rovers If so soi, you might need some LEEDS. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 26, 2008 10:18:14 GMT
Value "when" we are promoted? £25 million upwards I suppose................
Problem is that Premiership clubs seem to be valued on what some rich nutter is prepared to pay and not on the traditional method of assets less liabilities and estimated income streams etc.
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Post by Maccca100 on Feb 26, 2008 10:19:02 GMT
i thought more liverpoodle, or am i barking up the wrong tree?  |
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Post by jonnyp on Feb 26, 2008 10:36:13 GMT
re comments further up, I believe that his son Jonathan is a big Stoke fan
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Post by Peters Pipe on Feb 26, 2008 10:39:34 GMT
Long may it all continue then... ;D ;D |
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Feb 26, 2008 10:42:03 GMT
Fook kennel, What are you all on about.
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Post by soicowboy on Feb 26, 2008 11:12:42 GMT
There's always Dogenham and Redbridge Perhaps Install Maurice Setters as manager |
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Post by Baggs on Feb 26, 2008 11:38:25 GMT
does anyone have historic stoke figures? I can run an outrageously inaccurate model and predict the value if so
You might ask, what's the point of that. I agree, but there's plenty of demand for it (luckily for Mrs Baggz and her shopping habit)
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Post by crowey on Feb 26, 2008 13:45:57 GMT
soi - is Maurice Setters still with us? If he is I will give him a kiss. Per PC. If I was as old as he is I would be spending as much of my money as I possibly could before the sprogs got any of it - just look at poor old Alec Humphreys with that twat of a son on the board  |
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Post by rorymscfc on Feb 26, 2008 14:01:32 GMT
You'd think we'd have no chance signing a couple of midfield terriers?
RoryM
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