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Post by slangking on Feb 9, 2004 13:14:46 GMT
Oh well, here I am keeping the thing on the front page he should be bleeding happy  |
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Post by Pricey on Feb 9, 2004 13:55:07 GMT
All his books aren't about Stoke are they maucek/anybody, or are they?! ???
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Post by mcf on Feb 9, 2004 13:55:16 GMT
The book is actually pretty up beat considering how bad we were.
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Post by mcf on Feb 9, 2004 13:57:49 GMT
Pricey The others aren't about Stoke. One is a collection of short stories and the other is a love story based around a man's obsession with his trousers. Both are excellent. Bear in mind that I may be a little biased since winger bought my little lad a big cup of minstrels at Watford.  |
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Post by Pricey on Feb 9, 2004 14:07:46 GMT
I didn't think they were.
Just wondering why maucek wanted to read them in order if they aren't connected at all? But then he is weird.
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Post by NorwichStokie on Feb 9, 2004 17:12:20 GMT
No Pricey, this is the first one he's written about Stoke. Actually, Steve's message board name 'Winger' comes from the nickname of the main character in Strides. On the subject of the current book, 'She Stood There Laughing', which I've read - the book isn't an attack on the club, but it is a story of how hard it can be to support a football team, not just Stoke, but any team, that often lets you down, and how much harder it can be (and rewarding at the same time) when your son decides to follow them too. I challenge any man to read this book, and not find himself nodding in agreement with the sentiments felt during certain times of last season. This book is about so much more than just Stoke City. It’s a novel, an entertaining piece of non-fiction, a storybook. If you can’t get over the fact that it’s a really good read about a club that you love, then don’t buy it, but don’t slag it off if you’ve not read it – you just sounds like an uninformed whinger, who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Try it…..you might like it!  |
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 9, 2004 17:31:25 GMT
"I do believe we were pretty damn close to going out of the league altogether. ( were we not in the bottom 6 of division three at some time, not that long ago?)" any stoke fan worth their salt would know we have NEVER played below Division 2 (old division 3) . what division did we play in in 1990-92 then if it wasnt barclays division 3 ? i do believe we finished in 14th place, but at some time that season we were very close to the bottom 3. any stoke fan worth their salt would know that. !! ;D |
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Post by Hooky on Feb 9, 2004 17:42:32 GMT
Posted by: lurcherthelurker Posted on: Today at 5:31pm
on Feb 8th, 2004, 06:40am, IlfordDave wrote:"I do believe we were pretty damn close to going out of the league altogether. ( were we not in the bottom 6 of division three at some time, not that long ago?)"
any stoke fan worth their salt would know we have NEVER played below Division 2 (old division 3) .
what division did we play in in 1990-92 then if it wasnt barclays division 3 ?
i do believe we finished in 14th place, but at some time that season we were very close to the bottom 3.
any stoke fan worth their salt would know that. !!
and any FOOTBALL fan worth their salt would know that Division 3 in 1990/1 was a full division beyond the Conferance...... as there are FOUR divisions.
Div1
Div2
Div3
Div4
............. I do wonder at times.............
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 9, 2004 17:52:21 GMT
I stand corrected, my memory was a year out ;D
Obviously not worth a lot of salt then, but then when did salt pay the mortgage? ;D
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Post by mcf on Feb 10, 2004 10:05:56 GMT
Salt used to pay the mortgage in the olden days.
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Post by greyman on Feb 10, 2004 10:26:34 GMT
The word salary comes from the latin for salt.
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Post by mcf on Feb 10, 2004 10:57:30 GMT
Does it really? I didn't really know whether it did or not but needed to say something to edge closer to the ton.  |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 10, 2004 11:20:14 GMT
I've ordered on Amazon so now I wait  . It better be good. In fact, it better very good  Merk, middle-aged men who buy kids minstrels normally end up in prison. Keep an eye on him  |
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 10, 2004 11:54:18 GMT
Jimmy [and others], it really is a superb read. It could have been written by any supporter of a club which [at the time] was not fulfilling its potential. Equally, a book could have been written by anyone about their club's position and then find that by the time publication, [which takes about a year from finishing the book to getting it on the shelves]the contents are different than the current one. I could have written a book about supporting Stoke in '72 at the end of last season and that wouldn't have had much relevance to reality at the time. This is more than just a book about Stoke though, it's a book about being a supporter....full stop. I reckon its readership will go beyond football. It's that sort of book. Winger is not only a Stoke supperter, he's a brilliant wordsmith. He fascinates me with his style of writing. I've told him that he's weird but if he wasn't, I probably wouldn't read his books.  Buy it, try it and then make a judgement. I give it 10/10 and the fact that he mentions me is irrelevant to that mark. I'm far too old to be swayed by vanity. OS. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 10, 2004 12:00:14 GMT
I'm far too old to be swayed by vanity.
Yeah you silly old goat!!
Well it sounds a better read than that one about being a thug.
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Post by JR on Feb 10, 2004 12:04:51 GMT
Personally thought "Naughty" was very poor . There have been books written on football violence which have made interesting reading, that one didn't, was possibly the dullest out of a dozen or so I've read.
Looking forward to reading this one.
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Post by cockneypotter on Feb 10, 2004 13:14:52 GMT
Great start. Terrible end. I got an advance copy and read it in 3 days. to be honest it's the sort of book that any of us could have written - in fact that's why it's good. BUT stephen why did you let the monsters off the hook about the palace game. No Surrender is a way of singing a racist song because they can't sing racist songs. i was shocked that my son had to hear so much racist rubbish....they don't usually go because of ID cards. on saturday i'm not taking my son to palace. There was too much apologising for the hooligans towards the end. The piss-taking of them before that was good. The reminder of "where you were" when o'connor scored was excellent.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 10, 2004 15:56:38 GMT
Well done Cockneypotter. Criticism is good. My son, OSS, felt the same way as you but I felt differently and understood where Winger was coming from. Life is about opinions. Me and OSS have been discussing the book for the last three lunchtimes - sometimes heatedly. The very least it will do is make people think. I'm sure Winger will not baulk at honest criticism - in fact I know he'll relish it. Can't agree that any of us could have written it though; I can write but I can't put words together like Winger does. If you mean that he has basically put down in book form what we were feeling, you would be right IMHO. Of course, like the subject you mention, you would have written that differently. That's opinion and you are entitled to yours as Winger is to his.
Respects.
OS.
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. It better be good. In fact, it better very good 
