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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:46:32 GMT
He's not wrong in what he says though, is he? I think he is on some of it, yes.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:45:47 GMT
Any sympathy or respect I had for the left has gone after the last couple of days. Virtue signalling, hypocritical and nasty cunts, almost to a man. What exactly has 'the left' done in the last couple of days? I would say there was a lot more of that going on before the election than afterwards. Go back a few pages. Browse a couple of threads. Not you, Rip. Always civil.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:32:20 GMT
That's shocking there are plenty of jobs out there I've seen them, one last thing do you work for a privately funded school ? His political life is to the left but his life is 100% capitalist and to the right brilliant stance 👍 I know a few like that.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:27:55 GMT
What a shower that lot were. I do mean “were” as hopefully we will never hear from them again. Add Bliar, Major and Bercow and you’d have a full house of “we know what’s best for you, but don’t expect us to live in the way we tell you” types. I was really quite fearful of this election in that I thought too many people had bought the spin and bull shit of Corbyn and Momentum. Fortunately, I was wrong. So, to the Great British public....well done, you have restored my faith in this nation. Now...let’s push on an make it happen. Oh, and for those who don’t want to come on board, well please crack on and carry on shouting and screaming as your noise will die down soon enough....but, still know that even though you don’t want to play, you won’t be forgotten and will be rescued at any time of your choosing. Chuka is there a person so full of his own self importance he has absolutely zero to offer. Is he still black?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:20:33 GMT
Corbyn may have been the final nail in the coffin but results like this have been on the cards for a long time Complacency and a refusal to listen to reasonable concerns of the electorate, Salop. They genuinely thought that those voters would come running back to them. I am proud that they didn't.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:15:48 GMT
Most people are as thick as shit. Smarting are you bless never mind we can't all back the winner. These thickos were OK when they were voting Labour, of course. Some bitter lemons on here.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:10:09 GMT
Yes I do want them to suffer for voting for these bastards who have already been in power for 9 years and now have the majority they need to end the NHS and workplace regulations among a host of other things. The real face of the caring left, bless now stop crying and take your Jeremy Corbin posters down from your bedroom wall you won't require those again. Any sympathy or respect I had for the left has gone after the last couple of days. Virtue signalling, hypocritical and nasty cunts, almost to a man.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 13:00:08 GMT
Can’t remember doing that? Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. All heart, you..
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 12:57:36 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 12:46:28 GMT
Damning, Rog. The Sedgefield MP said the same, almost word for word. It wasn't just Brexit.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 10:46:35 GMT
Now the dust has settled how is everyone feeling? I'm happy with the result obviously but more relieved there'll be no more voting for a while. Relieved sums it up. I couldn't stomach Thornberry gloating.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:45:57 GMT
The tories have put lots of ex armed forces on the streets. Anyone working class person who voted tory fully deserves what is coming. Why what’s coming🤔 Nut roast?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:40:44 GMT
Imagine if he does well and we thrive, both locally and nationally? What happens to Labour then? I think you're right, the real fear is a one nation Tory succeeding. No it’s not. Do you think we want the country to go down the pan. I’d love for Boris to succeed & the country to flourish, but not at the few at the expense of the many. Don’t eulogise Boris until he’s actually done sumat. I'm not, Bath, I am just hopeful. Glad you are on board.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:37:45 GMT
Brexit was initially a vote on immigration. You can’t mention that now though apparently. Anyone who does is rounded upon by the resident Nazi hunter on here.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:26:42 GMT
Johnson is like all politicians....a bit shady, tell you what you want to hear, economical with the truth, self serving etc....he’s got the lot. However, he has something about him which makes people at least listen and want to hear what he has to say and that is positivity and charisma. I think people have had enough of those who actively want doom and gloom, want the country to fail and these sort inevitably and quite rightly just end up becoming noise that no one listens to in the end as they wallow is self pity and gloom. Will he let people down and fail to deliver on some things....yes, he will. Is he worth being given a chance to see what he can do compared with the other negative Nellies....absolutely. As others have said, vote him out as and when it goes wrong. I’m wondering if some of the hostility aimed at him is the realisation by those people that he might actually do a half decent job and it’s won’t be five years as PM, but ten and that sends them into negative over load which they can’t process. Imagine if he does well and we thrive, both locally and nationally? What happens to Labour then? I think you're right, the real fear is a one nation Tory succeeding.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:02:34 GMT
Johnson was attacked the minute he got the job. By virtually everyone. It kills some on here and in the country, but he has completely outflanked Labour and chimed with the working class. Give the bloke a chance, and if he ends up being wank, vote him out. That's democracy. I think he'll surprise a few. It’s too easy to forget the abuse he received from all sides during those early days as Parliament sought to humiliate him with defeat after defeat. Momo, Essex and co getting into a frenzy about his travails. Johnson though knew what he was doing. It was rope-a-dope. And he delivered a knock out punch. Boris bomaye!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 9:00:58 GMT
But one that anti-tory pedlars love to play out because they think it gives them this superior moral high ground It’s bollocks momo If the message doesn’t resonate how do they think these actions will Good luck in finding some resonance here... The voluble Corbynista here being Grace Blakeley - one of those Labour few. Remember seeing her on This Week and thinking how measured and attractive she was. She comes across as a right tit on this, though! 😁
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 8:39:34 GMT
I really question the mentality of some of these people They are protesting against Boris not the voters who put him there They are protesting against democracy the day after an election Jesus wept You can question the intent and honesty of Boris’ let the healing begin speech but imo it’s a speech that Jeremy Corbin should have given first thing yesterday He should have told his supporters to accept the result but keep spreading the word, he should have said don’t riot don’t violent protest but keep the pressure on your local MPs empowering them to do what is promised. He could have shown true leadership in defeat. I think the reality is he would rather be with them. And ultimately that’s why he lost Johnson was attacked the minute he got the job. By virtually everyone. It kills some on here and in the country, but he has completely outflanked Labour and chimed with the working class. Give the bloke a chance, and if he ends up being wank, vote him out. That's democracy. I think he'll surprise a few.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 8:28:46 GMT
It's oddly fitting. Jezza had an open goal. All he had to do was continue his thirty year old dislike of the EU and back Brexit. But the man of principle ditched his for a tilt at power.
Like Gregory, he contrived to fuck his chance up. His team mates scared the shit out of the country as well, with the virtue signalling that a few on here seem to like.
That's why people couldn't vote for Corbyn and this version of Labour. They didn't trust him or them, and Boris Fucking Johnson won with a tap in.
So instead of turning on decent people who made a democratic choice have a think about the wanker who really let us down.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 8:05:00 GMT
I think the left are using Brexit as an excuse. They weren't blaming Brexit at the last election when Labour made all those gains. What has changed now, is that the electorate are far more aware of who Corbyn IS and they don't like him - he was toxic on the doorstep this time around. Momentum is destroying the Labour party from within, there's no point in having an ideology, if that's all it ever remains - you have to be IN power to make a difference. No matter what the Labour party do now, it's going to be virtually impossible to turn over such a big majority within 5 years, it's going to take at least 10, maybe even more. Jon Lansman and his ilk have set back the Labour party back 10 - 20 years and now the party needs to shift back towards the centre if it's going to have any chance of being relevant in the future. Been saying this for the last couple of years. Far left parties will never win a majority in this country, ever, so they either have to be pragmatic and move to the centre or they'll just end up as a protest party shouting from the sidelines. I've always voted Labour but I couldn't vote for anyone this or last time. We've got to hope Boris does what he did when he was London Mayor and be a people's PM rather than too right wing. I have a feeling that's the way he'll go and a lot of the Labour voters who voted for him will be satisfied in 4 years time. Mmmm, a bit of positivity. Is that allowed on here? 😜
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 22:57:11 GMT
I'm over it now. I voted Labour. We lost. I was gutted last night. I've done some soul searching today. I've spoken to a few level headed people as to why they voted Tory, and why the result was as significant as it was. It is starting to make a bit more sense. I just hope Boris delivers on his promises now (because the country bloody needs it). Hopefully Labour learn, regroup and come back stronger, with a better leader and much more in the centre. It will take years to rebuild the faith, but hopefully by the the next GE, we have serious opposition. Let's hope the next few years go well. Whether you voted red, blue or any other colour. Theres no gloating or moral ground to be had from here on in. We all live in the same country. We're all in this together. Here’s the thing though, if Labour move more to the centre (which I think they will) how is that an effective opposition/alternative if the Tories and Lib Dems are already in the centre? Well there's a dispute as to whether the Tories are centrist....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 22:30:03 GMT
I'm over it now. I voted Labour. We lost. I was gutted last night. I've done some soul searching today. I've spoken to a few level headed people as to why they voted Tory, and why the result was as significant as it was. It is starting to make a bit more sense. I just hope Boris delivers on his promises now (because the country bloody needs it). Hopefully Labour learn, regroup and come back stronger, with a better leader and much more in the centre. It will take years to rebuild the faith, but hopefully by the the next GE, we have serious opposition. Let's hope the next few years go well. Whether you voted red, blue or any other colour. Theres no gloating or moral ground to be had from here on in. We all live in the same country. We're all in this together. Well said.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 21:42:50 GMT
I miss him and Portillo on the best programme the BBC had, which they cancelled, 'This Week'! Yes Portillo and Alan Johnson were brilliant on that show. Shame Alan Johnson never wanted to be leader, I fancy the former postman could have given his namesake a run for his money. Andrew Pearce said similar on LBC. Really enjoyed him and Portllo on This Week, also. Could have a reasoned debate.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 21:27:42 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 21:13:03 GMT
Alan Johnson gives it to you straight. Ed Balls and George Osborne's face's as he launches in to his rant are hilarious! Sheiky?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 21:02:35 GMT
Nice balanced audience on Question Time, I see!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 21:01:20 GMT
Just watching Question Time. Never heard him before but Stephen Kinnock is coming over extremely well Talking more sense than anyone else in the Labour Party. Don't tell Sheiky!😂
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 20:56:11 GMT
Good God, I thought you were talking about someone who'd achieved something not a political pygmy, mate. Kinnock junior is part of the problem not the solution. What's the solution?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 20:47:49 GMT
Not much love for democracy on here, is there? Kinnock just nailed it. How did Labour lose to this lot? He lost to Thatcher. Selfish and deluded cuntery is hard to overcome. His son, I meant.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2019 20:41:52 GMT
Not much love for democracy on here, is there? Kinnock just nailed it. How did Labour lose to this lot?
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