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Post by manmarking on Nov 1, 2017 14:07:04 GMT
Give us your radical solution then? Nah....You wouldn't like it....But it is akin to The Final Solution... At least some of our more virulent rightists are now being more honest about what they actually are ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) So who's going to the ovens, shangs? Just the radical Muslims? Or Muslims in general? (You can never be too careful, after all). And would you add "the left", political dissidents, gypsies, the disabled etc to that list as well? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Nov 1, 2017 12:51:14 GMT
No doubt, the fuhrer will be out to eat me alive and call me a communist, but bollocks was BL's demise down to Red Robbo. It was a combination of things. Shit management, weak government, aggressive unions and absolutely dire quality. You raise a correct point mate, albeit a futile one on the EE Waffen Board ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Nov 1, 2017 12:30:12 GMT
You don't understand my point because you're an imbecile on a sad wind up. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system in the history of humankind. The FTSE250 is a better indicator of domestic growth not the 100 which is booming with exports. Tax Tax Tories Tories blah blah. It's only your opinion that Brexit looks like a disaster. You have no facts. It's not 99% of people. But keep that drama going. You think only 1% of the population are shareholders? What a plank. Yet again resorting to personal insults when you cannot argue against what I have said. The ftse 250 is a better indicator of domestic growth than the ftse 100. That is bloody obviously. GDP is a much better indicator than either and that shows the EU grew by 50% more than us in the last quarter and we are bottom of all growth charts in the EU since the vote. I doubt many nurses, teachers, labourers, PAs or administrators have significant shareholdings in the 350 biggest and richest companies on the LSE. Without any conceivable doubt, Brexit, so far, has been economically a very poor decision. But most knew it was likely to be not great and a small majority voted leave for other reasons. Sovereignty of the decisions of our parliament is one. But Henry 8th laws fly in the face of that. So does the treatment by the Brexit press of the judges who sided with Gina Miller. They upheld the rule of law, without which we may as well have an unelected dictator in charge. Trying to bury reports in 58 areas of the impact of brexit is another example. As i have explained, when we leave the EU we will be party to thousands of international laws, treaties and agreements, decided only partly by us. Being the second biggest voice in a body with parity of negotiating power to China, Russia and the USA gives us more say and persuasion over those laws then we can even dream of once we leave. Less sovereignty. To trade woth the EU we have to abide by their rules for the products and services we sell in. We will have no say on those rules. Less sovereignty. Immigration. We have always (save for 1 year I think) let in more from outside the EU than from inside. Immigration has not changed much and there are arguments either way as to what should be done. I don't think this can be judged at all yet. Socially we have seen an increase in hate crime and we have a divided nation. Great.... So, and the question to which not 1 single brexiteer has givena straight answer to, how has Brexit , so far, looked like a good decision? Admittedly we have not left and nobody knows the precise outcome, so I have been asking the question of how Brexit is going so far. There is one simple answer - badly. That's what old todgevoid'll do I'm afraid, mate. Hasn't the faintest idea about economics, history, reasoning, any of that ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) You either agree with him or the jungle drums start beating and he goes all keyboard warrior on you. (Or of course fires up another of his accounts ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) ) It all masks a deep-seated sense of inadequacy (probably justified ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) ) so try to pity him. Or just lol at him ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Nov 1, 2017 7:11:39 GMT
Says someone who gets his news from The Express. #irony, #lol ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) Isn't the express the mail without the hate It's not possible to be The Mail without hate; hate's a fundamental part of the package ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 31, 2017 20:25:56 GMT
Surely people can see through all this shit from the likes of the guardian etc Desperation Says someone who gets his news from The Express. #irony, #lol ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 29, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
How long did he play yesterday ?, he should have scored yet another gilt edge chance he has passed on, let's face it he really is not good enough to start we tried that last season and it cost us vital points, he could easily have cost us again yesterday thankfully we defended manfully until the end. 15 minutes or so, and he looked far better than Choupo, set up Adam with a lovely ball and was very unlucky not to score past Gomes. he's passed up 2 guilt edged chances this season, the pen and that save, which I emphasise, was unlucky and a great save. If you really think he was the problem we had last season then I can't help you. No one can help carps I'm afraid. He's beyond help ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 29, 2017 16:33:09 GMT
Meet Jessie Daniels. This is from her website... "Jessie Daniels, PhD Writer, professor, speaker, digital sociologist at Hunter College and The Graduate Center, CUNY. Expert on race, racism and technology. Documentary-curator, aspiring NYT best-selling memoirist.
Co-founder, editor, blogger, Racism Review."Want to see some of her Tweets? ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNUQUaMXkAE_Uz_.jpg) These are the kind of people who're teaching your kids. Just out of interest, how many kids of Stoke City fans go to Hunter College and The Graduate Center, CUNY, mate? Or is this by any chance NOT the sort of person who's teaching our kids? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 18, 2017 12:41:27 GMT
Shame farage isn't heading Brexit He's had his nose kept out for one reason......he'd have snuffed out the deception the public are being fed by government right now We would have left if he'd have had control and tgered beckaruty for business This deception the public are being fed.... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) From your ITK vantage point of a dust-filled van somewhere near Cleethorpes, what are the rest of us mugs being deceived over, exactly? And how did you come by such privileged info that's not available to the ordinary public? "Collect 15 Cafe Nero stamps and join the official UK Brexit negotiating team", that sort of thing? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 18, 2017 11:39:47 GMT
I know some of the right wing nutters will jump on me, but the rise in hate crime in this UK is utterly sickening and it's not a myth or false fact. Is it directly linked to Brexit? Possibly, but it's also possibly linked to the fact people are getting desperate. If you're coming out of your house but suddenly realise you've left the iron on so turn around & go back in, but I was over the otherside of the road & noticed two men walking down the street holding hands & kissing. I perceive it as being you going back into your house because you're a homophobe. I call the police & report this 'hate crime' I've just wittnessed. That goes on the figures & counts as an actual 'hate-crime'. That's the reason the figures of reported 'hate-crimes' are rising. The actual convictions of 'hate-crimes' are falling, because so few of them are actually true hate-crimes. EDIT : Some figures. Reported 'hate-crimes' in 2015/16 - 62,518 (15,442 convictions) Reported 'hate-crimes' in 2016/17 - 80,393 (14,480 convictions) ... In other words, 65,913 people wasted the police's time with bullshit, made-up, so-called 'hate crimes' in the last year. There are lots of reasons why not all reported hate crimes result in a conviction. Not every single non-conviction is the result of "bullshit" or "made-up" claims. You're just - as usual - doing all the things you accuse "the left" of. Today it's skewing figures to suit your own agenda ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 17, 2017 17:18:16 GMT
Politics and sport should not mix. If you want to protest then march on to Parliament or in Americas case The White House. Disrespecting your nation and flag in front of fans probably those who fought for it and saw friends die for it is a disgrace. If Stoke players did that I would get up and leave and not return until the disrespectful wanker(s) had departed our club. Even if that meant years. Yes there are arsehole coppers who have killed but they do not represent the majority of coppers who give their lives everyday to protect and serve the public. How can you associate a knob head scum copper with your nationality your flag and your fellow countrymen. Get a grip. Also why do countries follow the USA. Be your own nation stop taking other countries crap ideas and making them your own. Be Proud Be British Be Stoke They're not protesting about people who fought and died for the country though are they? For instance in this case they're protesting against the very authorities that are supposed to uphold the virtues and meaning of the flag and the values of their nation for EVERY single member of their country, by abusing their power and utterly disrespecting what that flag is supposed to stand for!!! It's the people they're protesting against that are disrespecting the flag and nation, not those doing the protesting ![(slaphead)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/x7GhxArXJzjvmIlugu2X.gif) That's kind of the bloody point.....they're saying the flag and anthem no longer represent what it should do because of what the country has been turned into by those in power, so they refuse to respect what it now stands for. A National anthem played today is a symbol of the country and what it is today. If that country today is corrupt and unjust then that's what they're trying to show by doing this protest. People in the public eye who can reach millions have a very good opportunity to bring issues like this to a much wider audience, so fair play for them exercising their democratic right to do so. I hate all this "Everyone is allowed free speech...well until you become famous in which case you should sit down with your gob shut and be a good little boy" bollocks! They're famous because they're good at their job and that's what it is; a JOB. Why shouldn't they have the ability to protest like every other member of society does, just because they happen to be in a field of work that is more publicised than others???? Going back to people fighting and dying for their country, i think you'll find a hell of a lot of people died (particularly in the 2nd World war) because they were specifically fighting against powers that wanted to turn the world into a place of inequality, injustice and where people were openly abused, mistreated and lost their lives simply because of their colour/religion etc. I'm pretty damn sure those that died would actually be disgraced to find their own country has turned into a hotbed of what they were actually fighting against and died to try to eradicate in the first place, and would be equally appalled that it was being done under their flag and their anthem that meant something completely different to them then than what it means now! Point utterly missed by you i'm afraid mate I can't be arsed to read all of this I'm afraid mate, but I like it ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 17, 2017 17:07:02 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering Out means out I know this subject has proved historically difficult for you fraise. But not everyone shares your burning desire to hurl yourself off the Titanic into the icy depths, copy of the Express clamped firmly to your armpit, before the lifeboats are properly prepared ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) If you had any grasp of economics or politics, you'd accept that simply leaving as quickly as possible was never desirable or, more to the point, even possible ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 17, 2017 16:55:33 GMT
It's funny how, when it all boils down to it, the so-called libertarian alt-right is fundamentally anti-free speech. Want to assume a particular pose while a particular song is playing? You should be fired. How wonderfully democratic ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) The alt-right is all for free speech, of course, if you happen to agree with them. In which case you're free to say whatever gibberish is on your mind ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Interestingly, this is exactly the sort of hypocrisy that people on the alt-right are forever accusing that purposely badly defined nemesis "the left" of. Classic deflection tactics. (Which, ironically, is another thing that alt-rightists are forever accusing "the left" of ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) ) Libertariansim and the alt-right are entirely incompatible and it's wrong to conflate the two. I would identify as a libertarian and I've got fuck all to do with the alt-right. They're two colossal ends of a spectrum in fact. You're talking out of arse, the alt-right are by nature authoritarian. That was the point of my post - apologies if it wasn't clear enough ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) I said "so-called libertarian" because it's how the alt-right often identify themselves (the likes of Alex Jones, for example). It's not how I identify them. I share your view that the alt-right is very authoritarian. (Unless of course you agree with them, in which case they're all for free speech ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) ) Although I would add the caveat that the alt-right and libertarians are certainly not at opposite ends of a spectrum. There are elements of libertarian ideology buried in the alt-right, and vice versa ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 16, 2017 17:10:44 GMT
Come again, sweetie? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) No, I won't be coming again I'll be in the power league ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/3zptH1h3SvRnVmRGLyMP.gif) Lurking about in the gents' changing rooms again mate? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 16, 2017 12:07:19 GMT
Most of my calls this morning have been with people in N.Ireland and sorting out support and systems, those who are in (some at home as the schools are all closed) are getting sent home at lunchtime, apart from engineers who are all being kept in, now you know who keeps the country running Some of my colleagues in ops and H&S are suppose to be flying out to Belfast City airport this afternoon, in a Flybe Bombardier twin prop, now that could be a fun landing ! So is it best H&S practice to prepare for extreme weather systems by posting on the bastard Oatcake? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 16, 2017 12:04:31 GMT
What's your point, shorty? That it's okay to lie as long as someone else is doing it too? Remember when I lied to you? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Come again, sweetie? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 16, 2017 11:58:38 GMT
Remember when I lied to you? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Oh, I see he replied, with a cheap shot as well, shouldnt really be surprised. I see you haven't answered the question either, mate. No great surprise there either ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 16, 2017 11:42:21 GMT
It's funny how, when it all boils down to it, the so-called libertarian alt-right is fundamentally anti-free speech. Want to assume a particular pose while a particular song is playing? You should be fired. How wonderfully democratic ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) The alt-right is all for free speech, of course, if you happen to agree with them. In which case you're free to say whatever gibberish is on your mind ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Interestingly, this is exactly the sort of hypocrisy that people on the alt-right are forever accusing that purposely badly defined nemesis "the left" of. Classic deflection tactics. (Which, ironically, is another thing that alt-rightists are forever accusing "the left" of ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) )
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Post by manmarking on Oct 13, 2017 16:23:48 GMT
Which isn't taking into account two things Rog 1 The 48% who voted remain have every right to not "suck it up" and protest, just as the "man of the people" ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif) and your hero Farage said he would if the vote had been as close the other way. A fact you are fully aware of but still refuse to acknowledge. It's called democracy, sunshine. 2 The referendum again as you well know was never binding and is advisory. Still waiting for you to tell us all why we were lied to by the Leave campaign. Maybe you could also throw some light on the Cambridge Analytical scandal that's brewing here and in the US? The remain campaign also lied, they brought in mark Carney to help as well as illegaly spending £9m on leaflets, the economy would nose dive, house prices would suddenly drop, unemployment rise, etc. etc. What's your point, shorty? That it's okay to lie as long as someone else is doing it too?
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Post by manmarking on Oct 13, 2017 13:00:49 GMT
I don't well know that at all I'm afraid mate. In fact I disagree entirely ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) The problem as far I'm concerned is that there are people on both sides of the Remain/Leave divide who refuse to bury the hatchet because the animosity suits them. Either because they're rich and powerful, and it's easier to rule divided people. Or because it gives each side a scapegoat in the event that we end up with a shitty outcome. Bollocks. Leavers have got no hatchet to bury. They won. The vote said leave so it's up to the Remainers to change their stance. The fact that the Cleggs, Soubry's, Hammond's and Miller's etc are still trying to delay and derail Brexit is a Remoaner problem. Well that was certainly a very efficient way to prove the point I was making - cheers, mate ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Leavers haven't got a hatchet to bury?! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Christ, do you not read this board? It's like a giant redwood stump absolutely peppered with fucking hatchets. Non-stop electric axe murder ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 20:24:48 GMT
Just busy, mate - I don't have time to be on here as much as you ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) I'll just quickly summarise for you: nowhere in his post does spit call you racist or say anything especially "far left" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) The great irony to all this is that the "bollocks" spewed by some Remainers about Leavers is just as tired and clichéd as the bollocks you spout about Remainers, "the left" (whatever that even means), SJWs, snowflakes and so on. It's the mirror image in fact. Same non-logic, same intolerance, same insistence on tarring huge swathes of the populace that happen to not agree with you with the same shitty brush. As long as folk from both sides, including you, carry on in this vein, we'll all stay divided and Brexit will be a car crash. It's a great pity because it could be a really positive thing. It took 54 pages for somebody to finally make a sensible comment, I voted remain and maintain it’s a massive fucking mistake, however I accept the vote and as I have a good job and three kids soon to be looking for work, the last thing I want is to be proven right. It’s not looking good though and that’s frightening. I voted leave but I'm not especially happy with how it's going. Which isn't to say I regret my vote - I don't - I just don't think it needed to be like this. And yeah it is a worrying time in general - not just because of Brexit either, but the shambolic way it's been handled so far certainly doesn't help. Fingers crossed for your kids finding work - sure they'll be sound ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 20:13:50 GMT
Just busy, mate - I don't have time to be on here as much as you ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/JSywdI4UCuSSkNH6RfAn.gif) I'll just quickly summarise for you: nowhere in his post does spit call you racist or say anything especially "far left" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/JSywdI4UCuSSkNH6RfAn.gif) The great irony to all this is that the "bollocks" spewed by some Remainers about Leavers is just as tired and clichéd as the bollocks you spout about Remainers, "the left" (whatever that even means), SJWs, snowflakes and so on. It's the mirror image in fact. Same non-logic, same intolerance, same insistence on tarring huge swathes of the populace that happen to not agree with you with the same shitty brush. As long as folk from both sides, including you, carry on in this vein, we'll all stay divided and Brexit will be a car crash. It's a great pity because it could be a really positive thing. Nice try, but we both know it's nowhere near the same. SJWs & Brexiteers are not two sides of the same coin, and you well know it. There are plenty of people who voted Remain on this forum who no-one has got a problem with, but then they don't keep babbling on about hating foreigners blah blah blah when talking about anyone who voted for Brexit. It's a small band of Remoaners who're the problem (From the recent survey an ever decreasing band of Remoaners infact, given that 3/4 of the country now want to walk away with no deal this very instant) I don't well know that at all I'm afraid mate. In fact I disagree entirely ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) The problem as far I'm concerned is that there are people on both sides of the Remain/Leave divide who refuse to bury the hatchet because the animosity suits them. Either because they're rich and powerful, and it's easier to rule divided people. Or because it gives each side a scapegoat in the event that we end up with a shitty outcome.
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 19:44:23 GMT
Hate to weigh in with the awkward, unseemly, cuntish issue of fact, tdc - but where in that post has spit called you "racist, racist, racist"? (Actually, just a single "racist" will do ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/JSywdI4UCuSSkNH6RfAn.gif) ) Even hyperbole is generally based in some fact. But you spend so much time on here complaining how you can't say anything anymore without being branded a racist - while saying whatever you want and, more often than not, not being branded a racist for it ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/yOhYz7nFuxDhhiTtU_6Z.gif) And could you also explain in what way spit's post betrays him as a "far-left nutjob"? Thanks ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/JSywdI4UCuSSkNH6RfAn.gif) Ay up Shag, where've you been hiding for the last week or so? We've all missed your truely insightful contributions to threads ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/T3ayKrO3ZyFdKXzIkgKJ.gif) To answer both your 'points', it's in the tired old cliché bollocks repeated over & over from certain posters on here that anyone who voted Brexit is a Tory supporter who hates foreigners & lays all the blame at their door. It was bollocks before the Brexit vote & it's still bollocks to this day... But you knew that anyway seeing as you voted for Brexit yourself. Just busy, mate - I don't have time to be on here as much as you ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) I'll just quickly summarise for you: nowhere in his post does spit call you racist or say anything especially "far left" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) The great irony to all this is that the "bollocks" spewed by some Remainers about Leavers is just as tired and clichéd as the bollocks you spout about Remainers, "the left" (whatever that even means), SJWs, snowflakes and so on. It's the mirror image in fact. Same non-logic, same intolerance, same insistence on tarring huge swathes of the populace that happen to not agree with you with the same shitty brush. As long as folk from both sides, including you, carry on in this vein, we'll all stay divided and Brexit will be a car crash. It's a great pity because it could be a really positive thing.
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 18:33:49 GMT
Facts Farage is not perfect, however he was the catalyst via UKIP in achieving his career long ambition of UK independence from the EU machine, fact he is the most successful politician in recent times in the UK despite never being an MP, Fact Jeremy Corbyn spent all his political career campaigning for the UK leaving the EU machine, fact he backed remain in the referendum, fact he backed the dead cert in a two horse race and lost again !, May is a lame duck PM only there because gutless Cameron backed a dead cert in a two horse race and lost, ran away as cowards faced with defeat always do, May also backed a dead cert in a two horse race and lost hence her reluctance to take Brexit forward. Farage succeeded in his ultimate target as soon as he resigned UKIP died on it's arse as a party their job was done or should have been done when millions of Labour voters turned to UKIP and backed Brexit with their support, the left wing have done nothing but piss, whinge and whine ever since face the fact you lost get over it, pick your dummies up and go hide in a safe space and let the adults get on with restoring our countries identity, backbone and pride.
In a perfect world, carps, this post would have more than two full stops in it ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 18:25:20 GMT
Brexit was born out of self interest within the Conservative Party that has been going on for years and its still that today and the joke is on us who are paying for what is an internal squabble for power. Whatever the deal it will be one that will have only these self-interest at its core. Anyone who thinks its anything else is sadly deluded. The emphasis now is to make sure that the shitty deal that we get will be down to those pesky foreigners. Its a win-win situation for Brexiters. They have all their excuses lined up. All of the problems from here on will be the fault of foreigners and the only people who will benefit will be an elite group of rich privileged who have driven this. I was always an opponent of the EU as an institution, but the the alternative we will be dealt is far, far worse. It wont be the likes of Farage, Johnson who will struggle because of this. How anybody earning less that 20 grand a month can identlfy themselves for one second with these people is beyond me. They came into politics out of self interest and they will leave through the same door. What a load of drivel. Millions of people in this country have wanted out of the EU for years on end. People just hadn't had a voice untill UKIP came around & kicked the major parties into action, which inturn gave us 'Call me Dave' & his promise of a referendum if the Tories were in power. You far-left idiots still haven't learnt a thing. You just blame everything on on the Tories (despite the fact it's millions of ex-Labour voters who helped to win the referendum for Brexit) and you're still... Fucking still!, just shouting "racist, racist, racist" at anyone who voted Brexit. You go on about the people who will struggle... The people who're already struggling, and have been for years on end now, are the vast swathes of working class Labour heartlands who've seen their jobs, wages, conditions, contracts etc... be absolutely shit all over by the EU's wonderful, never ending stream of cheap labour... A never ending stream which helps no-one but the fatcat company bosses who can now say "Take it or fucking leave it" to the very people you're pretending you're concerned about! Hate to weigh in with the awkward, unseemly, cuntish issue of fact, tdc - but where in that post has spit called you "racist, racist, racist"? (Actually, just a single "racist" will do ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) ) Even hyperbole is generally based in some fact. But you spend so much time on here complaining how you can't say anything anymore without being branded a racist - while saying whatever you want and, more often than not, not being branded a racist for it ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) And could you also explain in what way spit's post betrays him as a "far-left nutjob"? Thanks ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by manmarking on Oct 12, 2017 16:51:06 GMT
Is that the speech where he promised rich people would pay for everything but doesn't give any costings and they would nationalise water, rail, energy etc but use a 'market' price that would be decided by Parliament? What's their plan when anyone who owns a business and therefore creates jobs decides either to fuck off abroad or go bust because The old Commie wants to tax them through the nose. And just HOW will they support those left on the scrap-heap or left in actual poverty due to hyperinflation bought about by a combination of less business competition, less stock being produced and Corbyns quantative easing (printing off money) reducing the value of money? I'm no economist, but I suspect the shit will hit the fan... Yeah, cheers mate, we gathered that bit
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Catalonia
Oct 1, 2017 21:10:13 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 1, 2017 21:10:13 GMT
So your insight is that somewhere you've never been is a horrible shithole. Great, thanks for that. Anywhere else you've got no knowledge or understanding of that you'd care to enlighten us all on, mate? What's the moon like this time of year? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) I said I'd only holidayed in Catalonia. I've been to Spain more times than I care to mention, I lived there for a fucking year. Well in which case I apologise for the tone, but I don't get the "horrible shithole" review personally. Spent a lot of time there and always found it to be anything but. Each to their own.
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Catalonia
Oct 1, 2017 20:55:14 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 1, 2017 20:55:14 GMT
When going to 'Spain' I've only ever holidayed in Catalonia, it's a lovely place and great people and I sincerely hope they do gain their independence. Because on the whole Spain is a horrible shithole, and has always been just one jackboot away from a third world dictatorship. This shocking display of police brutality just goes to prove that the spirit of Franco is alive and kicking. Wonder what their precious EU will have to say about it? So your insight is that somewhere you've never been is a horrible shithole. Great, thanks for that. Anywhere else you've got no knowledge or understanding of that you'd care to enlighten us all on, mate? What's the moon like this time of year? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Catalonia
Oct 1, 2017 20:48:30 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 1, 2017 20:48:30 GMT
Quid pro quo, tdc - what are your posts contributing to this thread? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) So you couldn't find anything to back up your claim, so you yet again come out with more nonsense to again add nothing of value. Bravo, Champ. Bravo. No champ. I asked you a question and you dodged it. Twice now. I'll happily answer yours when you answer the one I asked first ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) So for the third time: what are your posts contributing to this thread?
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Catalonia
Oct 1, 2017 20:36:53 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 1, 2017 20:36:53 GMT
No, it's just one of my usual posts pointing out the total inconsistency and hypocrisy of some of the execrable shite that you publish on here ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Humour me: if my posts contributed nothing to the discussion, could you explain what your posts are contributing please? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Where is the inconsistency & hypocrisy? Quid pro quo, tdc - what are your posts contributing to this thread? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Catalonia
Oct 1, 2017 18:45:21 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 1, 2017 18:45:21 GMT
I never said they were the same you plum. You never offered any distinction. But then you don't do nuance so I shouldn't have expected any ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Ahh, so this is just one of your usual posts that make no sense whatsoever, and contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion. Gotcha. No, it's just one of my usual posts pointing out the total inconsistency and hypocrisy of some of the execrable shite that you publish on here ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Humour me: if my posts contributed nothing to the discussion, could you explain what your posts are contributing please? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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