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Post by stackman on Oct 26, 2009 12:01:35 GMT
Dont understand how people are saying it was a penalty. They showed it on match of the day from different angles and slowed down.He does get a toe to the ball and the spurs player decides to fall over Diaos foot.Ref was spot oncorrect no penalty.Couldnt believe Hansen saying stone wall penalty. The ref would have been under pressure to give it too so good on him for being certain that it wasnt
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Post by Beardy200 on Oct 26, 2009 12:04:06 GMT
I can't understand why this is the 1st thread we've had on it. Baffling really.  |
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Oct 26, 2009 12:04:41 GMT
I thought it was from the first look on Saturday. BUT.....saw it on MOTD and it was very clear that he won the ball then got the man, stone waller my phucking arse. Well played Salif.  |
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Post by serpico on Oct 26, 2009 12:05:16 GMT
yup, there's a clear deviation of the ball from Diaos toe, the ref got that one spot on .
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Post by kitkatkev on Oct 26, 2009 12:13:54 GMT
i dont know why the fuss i knew it wasnt first time i see it
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Post by ches47 on Oct 26, 2009 16:06:24 GMT
I was sat directly to the side of it in with the Spurs fans and they all said he dived and so did I! The one that worried me the most was when Crouch decided he was going to start throwing himself to the floor every time somebody got anywhere near him. Fortunately the ref was having none of it.
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Post by gloucesterstokie on Oct 26, 2009 16:19:29 GMT
it was a blatent penalty
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Oct 26, 2009 16:21:22 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Oct 26, 2009 16:21:34 GMT
Diao got the faintest of touches on the ball. Therefore, it definitely wasn't a penalty  |
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Post by stokie4life on Oct 26, 2009 18:06:02 GMT
It wasn't a penalty imo. Diao got the ball.
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Post by Orbs on Oct 26, 2009 18:09:49 GMT
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Oct 26, 2009 18:21:13 GMT
The problem is that there are differing interpretations of the rules and thats why theres such a debate about it.
I always thought that if contact was made with the ball it was no penalty but certain referees see it completely differently now.
Ive seen loads of pens given when there has been clear contact with the ball but if the man is taken with the ball the ref will give a pen.
Personally I didn't think the Diao incident was a penalty but had it been outside the area I am 99% sure the ref would have given a freekick.
This is a massive grey area in football for me and could be easily sorted with clear rules and the introduction of video technology. The decision could have been reviewed in the time that was wasted by players argueing with the ref surely?
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Post by stoketacular on Oct 26, 2009 18:41:45 GMT
Diao had a fantastic match some tackles he made were superb
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Post by stackman on Oct 26, 2009 19:02:53 GMT
It was as much a penalty as Etheringtons against west ham.Neither were. Players look for penalties too much now especially at the end f games and just hope that refs are big enough not to give them |
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Post by StoKeith on Oct 26, 2009 19:03:21 GMT
I couldn't believe it when Hansen said it was a stone wall penalty as Diao clearly just poked the ball away from Krancjar. Yes, it can still be a foul even if you make contact with the ball, but that's only if the tackle is dangerous/malicious. This was neither - just good defending.
I've paused it from the MotD highlights and you can clearly see him get the ball - I can't PrintScreen it for some reason though. Have another look though (and pause it) if you think it was a foul.
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 26, 2009 19:08:05 GMT
these people saying it was a pen need either open their eyes or read a rule book! he hit the ball!! simple as that. the reason the ref didnt give it is simply for that reason, he saw diaos boot flick the ball away! NO PEN, it aint hard is it really?? another easy way of spotting it wasnt a pen, look at the appeal, off both player and fans! kranjcar give a heart hearted hands up and the spurs players played on! the fans give a shout like any desperate team losing one nil in the 90th minute! it wasnt a pen FACT! the ref says so!
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Post by gloucesterstokie on Oct 26, 2009 19:09:00 GMT
to be honest, i shat myself at the game when diao took the spurs player down. i had right to, it was a penalty
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Oct 26, 2009 19:16:32 GMT
to be honest, i shat myself at the game when diao took how down. i had right to, it was a penalty How was it? Diao managed to get a toe on the ball. Kranjcar carried on and went into Diao's leg, which incidentally is attached to the foot that poked the ball away from Kranjcar, and went to the ground I've always thought if the player gets the ball, which Diao did, then it's not a foul unless it's incredibly dangerous for example, a flying 2 footed karate kick 6 foot off the ground to boot the ball instead of heading it and taking the opposing players face off |
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Post by gloucesterstokie on Oct 26, 2009 19:20:42 GMT
well we all have our opinions i just felt it was a blatent penalty
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Oct 26, 2009 19:37:11 GMT
well we all have our opinions i just felt it was a blatent penalty For what reason though? |
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Post by vagabondshoes on Oct 26, 2009 19:48:10 GMT
From viewing on MOTD, surely anyone who has seen the incident knows it is no penalty.
ref got it 100% right.
hanson got it 100% wrong and makes negligent comments.. and makes himself look a fool in the process as we can all watch the footage at home.
bring on pompey!!
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Post by gloucesterstokie on Oct 26, 2009 19:50:51 GMT
the reason that he tripped krancjar over with his foot with very minimal contact which means it is a penalty. if it was the other way round, you would all say it was a penalty
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Post by gamesmaster on Oct 26, 2009 19:56:04 GMT
well we all have our opinions i just felt it was a blatent penalty There are opinions when it happens, but when looking at the evidence afterwards you can surely see that before Diao touched the man, he plays the ball. It doesn't matter how much of a touch he gets on it, he definitely touches the ball before the man so it is not a penalty. That's based on fact not opinion. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Oct 26, 2009 19:57:20 GMT
the reason that he tripped krancjar over with his foot with very minimal contact which means it is a penalty. if it was the other way round, you would all say it was a penalty AFTER he touched the ball so based on your thinking, if a player gets the ball, no matter how minimal the touch on the ball, it's a foul if the player gets tripped up afterwards? And no, I wouldn't say it if it was the other way around either |
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Post by stackman on Oct 26, 2009 20:11:05 GMT
the reason that he tripped krancjar over with his foot with very minimal contact which means it is a penalty. if it was the other way round, you would all say it was a penalty We all do have our own opinions but logic says that is not a penalty. The ball does get away from Diao which at full speed he looks second best to get too the ball but i was amazed that he got a toe on it. He must have long legs |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 26, 2009 20:18:30 GMT
It is a game of opinions. some die hard Stokies on here think Spurs were hard done by. Personally Ive always thought if you get the ball first then a penalty should not be given. Two of the nationals at least said that wankyar was guilty of blatent play acting. The ref thought it wasnt a penalty and didnt give it and I cant see them replaying the game  Anyway Simmo would have saved it ;D |
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 26, 2009 20:28:01 GMT
The guys commentating on match choice said it was not a penalty.The most important person also agreed.
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Post by binthelplates on Oct 26, 2009 23:00:20 GMT
Forget the penalty, what about the crap control that led him to make the challenge.
The ball bounced off his shins like he had rubber shin pads on !
Regards
Clive
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Post by Caddick988 on Oct 26, 2009 23:04:30 GMT
The ref was too scared to give a penalty, who knows what Ab.Faye would of done to him!!  DH |
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Post by stokiesam on Oct 26, 2009 23:16:59 GMT
I'm more bothered that MOTD don't seem to care about penalties that we don't get, we had a definite one not given at Everton, and BT got a nudge when about to head the ball, that was a "clever bit of defending" on saturday that could have been a pen. Neither mentioned on MOTD
Also for my 2 penneth, its not enough to get a touch on the ball for it to not be a pen. if you don't win the ball and it carries on moving in the same direction, then cleaning the player out at the same time is a foul. You have to win the ball, not just touch it.
Btw, thats my opinion from watching for years, what the law is nowadays is beyond me, it seems to change from week to week
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