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Post by Nick1984 on Oct 20, 2009 18:19:05 GMT
Its because Hanley is a shit hole in fact most of stoke on trent is a shit hole and full of chavey type youths and slags just like the ones who were fucking in the middle of the road a few weeks back This
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 20, 2009 18:36:30 GMT
Is it that violent? Fair enough you're always likely to see a fight if you go out in Hanley or Castle at a weekend but in terms of very serious violence (i.e. guns, knifes) I wouldn't say there is a massive problem in this area. Should have been clearer, that's what I meant, fisticuffs not guns and knives (but we've got a few knife gangs too haven't we?)
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Post by knype on Oct 20, 2009 18:43:07 GMT
Poor education, poor job asperations, not many places in Britiain as depressing as Stoke. I'm not making any excuses for crime and violence, but in terms of Britain, Stoke's one of the most boring/backwards places in England. Load of shite, you obviously havent been many other places....
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 20, 2009 19:02:26 GMT
For murders and gun crime and mafia activity etc New York and Chicago are obvioulsy going to be worse, London and Manchester is going to be worse for gun crime as well but as Sal said, for street brawling Ive not seen anywhere as bad as Stoke-On-Trent, Ive had many nights out in London, Manchester, Liverpool , Birmingham, Leeds etc and I can honestly say the smaller cities are far worse, I think it because the bigger cities have lads from all over the country visiting on a regular basis but places like Hanley tend to be local lads from the local area, Stoke On Trent is a small place and everyone on the Clubbin scene tend to know each other, for example, Meir lads bumping into Chell heath lads on a regular basis is always going to kick off, then if outsiders come into the City the locals arent used to it so they get territorial and kick off, Stoke is pretty poor in comparison to other cities and alot of people here just dont give a fuck, they've got nothing to loose and reputation means more to them than the opinions of some copper who doesnt understand them, alot of people have got a bad attitude , society breeds these people then moan when they kick off... Almost OTP, it's not society breeding them it's the workshy, selfish, lazy tossers who infest this city. Many of the young thugs up town today have never seen their parents working. If the parents have no self respect and discipline then how are their offspring suppossed to have any? The sooner anyone out of work for say over 12 months has to sweep the streets every day for their benefits the better.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 20, 2009 19:06:40 GMT
Even during the 90's when I was growing up, those of us from Newcastle used to literally dread going out around Hanley. We'd always sooner go to Manchester! I simply avoid Hanley at night.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 20, 2009 19:30:27 GMT
The only time I've ever enjoyed going for a night out in 'Anley duck...was when I used to go to 'The Freetown'...which was a 'Stoke' club...where the lads used to meet up from all over the city... Now they were nights to remember...especially when all the Cobridge lads came down and tried to take over the place one night... Almost as good as Shellys/Kinetic..the only time I've been to Longton for a friday night out...although Bidds was a good laugh on Satdees ;D
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Post by onetruepotter on Oct 21, 2009 17:17:04 GMT
For murders and gun crime and mafia activity etc New York and Chicago are obvioulsy going to be worse, London and Manchester is going to be worse for gun crime as well but as Sal said, for street brawling Ive not seen anywhere as bad as Stoke-On-Trent, Ive had many nights out in London, Manchester, Liverpool , Birmingham, Leeds etc and I can honestly say the smaller cities are far worse, I think it because the bigger cities have lads from all over the country visiting on a regular basis but places like Hanley tend to be local lads from the local area, Stoke On Trent is a small place and everyone on the Clubbin scene tend to know each other, for example, Meir lads bumping into Chell heath lads on a regular basis is always going to kick off, then if outsiders come into the City the locals arent used to it so they get territorial and kick off, Stoke is pretty poor in comparison to other cities and alot of people here just dont give a fuck, they've got nothing to loose and reputation means more to them than the opinions of some copper who doesnt understand them, alot of people have got a bad attitude , society breeds these people then moan when they kick off... Almost OTP, it's not society breeding them it's the workshy, selfish, lazy tossers who infest this city. Many of the young thugs up town today have never seen their parents working. If the parents have no self respect and discipline then how are their offspring suppossed to have any? The sooner anyone out of work for say over 12 months has to sweep the streets every day for their benefits the better. wrong., what if your at college in the evening so you can only work days, but you cant find a job without doing shifts, but you cant do shifts cuz of college, every ones situation is different, and people should takes respnsibility for their own actions, society breeds these people and the politicians should invest more into poor working class areas and give people there something to look forward to and something to aim for. Alotof people in Stoke just dont give a fuck an they feel as if society doesnt give a fuck about them, so their attitiude is "fuck society, it dunner give a fuck about me...so fuck em all" Ive been a regular up anley since I was about 15 and still get me sen up most saturdays when Im single and I manage to avoid myther, ive had my fair share of fisticuffs on the dance floors and streets etc but it never bothered me, truth is young men from Stoke like a good scrap, always have always will. These days I never get started, cuz I dont go round giving it the big I am, but I dont cower away like a scared rat either, my attitude is, im not out for trouble but if ya want its, lets fuckin av eet.
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Post by Nick1984 on Oct 21, 2009 17:59:01 GMT
society breeds these people and the politicians should invest more into poor working class areas and give people there something to look forward to and something to aim for.
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Post by Nick1984 on Oct 21, 2009 18:01:52 GMT
I'm all for a bit of socialism and don't complain about taxes unless they're put into stupid places.
The problem with Stoke and Britain is benefits going to thick people who've never worked a day in their life to breed more inbred little leeches in their dozens!
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Post by onetruepotter on Oct 21, 2009 18:17:05 GMT
society breeds these people and the politicians should invest more into poor working class areas and give people there something to look forward to and something to aim for. whos this good looking bastard ?
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Post by Nick1984 on Oct 21, 2009 18:18:32 GMT
Edit: Sorry, just thought someone so politically motivated as yourself would have a clue who Karl Marx was.
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Post by onetruepotter on Oct 21, 2009 18:23:53 GMT
whos this good looking bastard ? I despair... Don't they teach you kids anything in school these days? if 1984 is your D.O.B were the same age kidder, simple question, if you dont know then dont google it to make yourself look good cuz it dunner work ;D
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 21, 2009 19:03:38 GMT
Having grown up in some of the inner city Stoke areas you pretty much get used to violence and I have been involved and been on the recieveing end on may occasions but I just think it is dog eat dog and you do what you do to get by. Unprovked attacks are not new and the scenes in the Sentinel are certainly not new. As OTP states I remember at school regular bust ups between schools when we were only 14 - 15 Longton High, Edensor, Thomas Moore (Bishop Bright) and then it is just a contiuation when they eventually get to drinking up town..... I don't think it will ever go away to be honest as long as there are gatherings of people where the drink flows you will get them kind of scenes on the streets during nights out. Thats just the point though Sid. Not everybody is the same. Just because kids fight at school (and not all kids do) doesnt mean to say when they grow up they shouldnt stop acting fucking childish. I work in the job centre and you cant believe some of the nobends that claim. Not interested in working, regard benefits as an entitlement, late for interviews and a lot of the time kick off when somebody points out the error of their ways, using foul language in front of kids and women because they think it will help them get what they want. Then again there is the opposite end of the scale, genuine people who help themselves, appreciate the support and have to suffer the foul mouthed pigs.
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Post by onetruepotter on Oct 21, 2009 21:11:34 GMT
Edit: Sorry, just thought someone so politically motivated as yourself would have a clue who Karl Marx was. I know who he is, never seen a pic of him tho, why post a pic of him anyway...You fancy him or sumit ;D...and who said I was politically motivated, I aint an MP, I aint a member of any partys, but I can and will vote for who ever I want and the more you tell me not to then more it will encourage me to do the exact opposite..I know as much as I need to know and can make my own decisions, and any party that stands up for the working class Brit has my vote, weather its the BNP, Labour or anyone else..As a working class Brit I'm naturally enclined to vote for anyone who I feel represents me and mine...end of Death before surrender, British till I die
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