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Post by StokieMatt on Oct 17, 2009 9:01:21 GMT
ffs there is good and bad in every race, if a coloured doctor treated me, it would be the same as if a white doctor treated me, infact it was a muslim doctor who checked my daughter over after she was born, would any of you hardcore racists refuse to be treated by a muslim if your life depended on it??? thought not!!! dont get me wrong, when i drive through places like cobridge and shelton, i do think its a disgraise, but thats as much down to the white people who moved out of the area as it is for all the muslims moving into the area. you know what, i hate every fucker the same!!!! Using the word "coloured" is racist. You're implying someone has coloured them in, and it offends a lot of black and asian people. Also Debs, Dave may have a pee sized brain, but he's correct, you don't get intellectual and intelligent racists, because stopping asylum seekers will not make this country "great". This is how Nazi Germany started by the way, people just wanting a better life for their chidlren, so they fucked off anyone who wasn't "aryan". The funniest thing about the BNP is how Nick Griffin, a fat, ugly, one eyed twat thinks he's part of the supreme race. This guy denied the Holocaust happened (so 6 million Jews just went missing?) and he believes we fought World War 2 to stop black and asian people coming in to take our jobs and benefits. Actually Mr Griffin we went to war to stop fascist pigs like yourself. History should be made compulsory so people can see how Nazi Germany started, and so they can see how the BNP are so very similar. your a retard who tries sound clever run along
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 17, 2009 9:04:58 GMT
You're a retard who doesn't come any where near close to sounding clever. run along.
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Post by french toast on Oct 17, 2009 9:08:44 GMT
ffs there is good and bad in every race, if a coloured doctor treated me, it would be the same as if a white doctor treated me, infact it was a muslim doctor who checked my daughter over after she was born, would any of you hardcore racists refuse to be treated by a muslim if your life depended on it??? thought not!!! dont get me wrong, when i drive through places like cobridge and shelton, i do think its a disgraise, but thats as much down to the white people who moved out of the area as it is for all the muslims moving into the area. you know what, i hate every fucker the same!!!! Using the word "coloured" is racist. You're implying someone has coloured them in, and it offends a lot of black and asian people. Also Debs, Dave may have a pee sized brain, but he's correct, you don't get intellectual and intelligent racists, because stopping asylum seekers will not make this country "great". This is how Nazi Germany started by the way, people just wanting a better life for their chidlren, so they fucked off anyone who wasn't "aryan". The funniest thing about the BNP is how Nick Griffin, a fat, ugly, one eyed twat thinks he's part of the supreme race. This guy denied the Holocaust happened (so 6 million Jews just went missing?) and he believes we fought World War 2 to stop black and asian people coming in to take our jobs and benefits. Actually Mr Griffin we went to war to stop fascist pigs like yourself. History should be made compulsory so people can see how Nazi Germany started, and so they can see how the BNP are so very similar. shut up. You honky mutha. Does that offend you?
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 17, 2009 9:13:00 GMT
No, I can't say it does. But I like your argument of "shut up", I think you have a good point there.
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Post by french toast on Oct 17, 2009 9:15:59 GMT
No, I can't say it does. But I like your argument of "shut up", I think you have a good point there. well if blacks get upset at been called coloured. Dont you think that they are being a tad over sensitive? Call me what ever you want. It all goes back to the old rhyme. Sticks and stones
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 17, 2009 9:30:41 GMT
I don't.
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Post by StokieMatt on Oct 17, 2009 9:31:46 GMT
nopt too busy fisting yourself
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 17, 2009 9:42:27 GMT
... The term coloured was and is used because people felt uncomfortable calling someone black. If anything the term coloured was used to try and not offend. To say that people coming to our country don't get preferential treatment is ignorant to the facts to say the least. I know a chap at work who has been on the housing list for over 2 years and is still nowhere nearer to getting somewhere to live. A pole at our work from the same area and same circumstances has been over here for 8 months and now has a place to live. Most people can tell you stories like this yet people still close their eyes to the fact that we have a problem. As I have said I am not a racist and UKIP is my 1st choice but if they turn to the shit BNP will get my vote. The word you use at the beginning of your post is also unacceptable, always has been always will. Your mate on the housing list presumably has somewhere to live at the moment yes? Whereas the pole has nowhere, he therefore accumaltes more points on the system scale that all local authorities use. UKIP only really have one policy which is to keep the pound and stay out of Europe, apart from that they are dead in the water.
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Post by french toast on Oct 17, 2009 9:50:13 GMT
Load of tosh. They may have both been at the same hostel. I presume most of the lefties have never been screwed by immagrants coming over? Thats one of my gripes. They undercut decent trades men. Then do shoddy work. DANGEROUS WORK. If i did the same thing i could get sent down. Why dont these twats? On the over side of the coin i have worked with a few poles that were hard working decent people. Its not the foreigners fault. Its labours.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 17, 2009 9:59:51 GMT
Someone needs to close this thread. I thought offensive terms and name-calling were forbidden.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 17, 2009 10:01:40 GMT
The word you use at the beginning of your post is also unacceptable, always has been always will. Your mate on the housing list presumably has somewhere to live at the moment yes? Whereas the pole has nowhere, he therefore accumaltes more points on the system scale that all local authorities use. UKIP only really have one policy which is to keep the pound and stay out of Europe, apart from that they are dead in the water. No. Both were living in B&B's. It is dangerous to presume. Stick to the facts. My choice, my vote. When the time comes I will make an informed decision on my vote and vote for what best suits me. It certainly wont be for any happy clapping party that are to scared to stand up for this country. Then the points system that the Local Authority use must have favoured the Pole. There's the fact for you. I'm glad that when the time comes, you will make an informed decision on who to vote for, I'm simply pinting out to you that UKIP are a one trick pony, feel free to find and post any evidence to the contrary.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 17, 2009 10:03:40 GMT
Load of tosh. They may have both been at the same hostel. I presume most of the lefties have never been screwed by immagrants coming over? Thats one of my gripes. They undercut decent trades men. Then do shoddy work. DANGEROUS WORK. If i did the same thing i could get sent down. Why dont these twats? On the over side of the coin i have worked with a few poles that were hard working decent people. Its not the foreigners fault. Its labours. That's not Labour's fault it's the free market economic policy that this country has follwed since the industrial revolution, so that's Labour and Tory and Liberal policy. Jay you're right, it's a shame people cant debate facts and issues without resorting to offensive name calling.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 17, 2009 10:04:30 GMT
Someone needs to close this thread. I thought offensive terms and name-calling were forbidden. Oh grow up. We are all big boys and girls on here. It's a message board where people have opinions. Where has anyone used an offensive term in an offensive manner? If you don't want to post on it anymore then don't but don't try and stop others from doing so.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 17, 2009 10:06:12 GMT
Someone needs to close this thread. I thought offensive terms and name-calling were forbidden. Oh grow up. We are all big boys and girls on here. It's a message board where people have opinions. Where has anyone used an offensive term in an offensive manner? If you don't want to post on it anymore then don't but don't try and stop others from doing so. I pointed out the offensive stuff in your post a little earlier.
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Post by Admin on Oct 17, 2009 10:06:35 GMT
I've deleted several threads containing offensive words in this thread and I'd appreciate it if they weren't put on here again.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 17, 2009 10:06:42 GMT
I refuse to use the racist terms used in some of the threads, but if being grown up involves not using such terms nor using personal insults then so be it.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 17, 2009 10:10:00 GMT
The words I'm posting as racist terms are not being used to offend but are being used to show how they are deemed as offensive.
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Post by Admin on Oct 17, 2009 10:10:49 GMT
All the same, we'd rather they weren't used at all.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 17, 2009 10:12:14 GMT
The words I'm posting as racist terms are not being used to offend but are being used to show how they are deemed as offensive. I think it's more to do with consistency Dom, nothing to do with your views.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 17, 2009 10:13:25 GMT
I don't think anyone has used them in an offensive manner but there you go.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 17, 2009 10:45:34 GMT
I won't use them then, my bad. I appreicate they're offensive, that's where I'm trying to get at.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 17, 2009 11:15:50 GMT
We sometimes need to remember that being a Stoke City fan isn't an exclusive club, and that neither the club nor we discriminate. We are all Stoke fans. You can have your views - the more the merry. Whilst debate should of course be free, it should also be fair and anyone from whatever background should be able to post without fear or recrimination. To be honest, if one has to resort to personal abuse it just means that you've lost control & thus the argument anyway.
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Post by stokecrusader1960 on Oct 17, 2009 18:14:56 GMT
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Post by onetruepotter on Oct 17, 2009 18:17:18 GMT
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Post by meirstoke on Oct 17, 2009 19:52:58 GMT
most people in stoke who have voted bnp are not racist but are fed up with local politics and labour doing nothing to improve the image of the city. lets be honest torries wont get in and lib dems have as much chance as the green party. so their is realy only two parties in stoke labour and bnp
a political party is not a football team, you choose the one whose policies seem to make sence at the time, so to say i hate the torries because of the mines is silly, as is my father voted labour my uncle harry voted labour and i'll vote labouer is just as daft
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Post by meirstoke on Oct 17, 2009 19:57:41 GMT
cast your mind back four years ago to the sentinal, before the election the local labour council said it was going to look in to building a tram-way system in the city, they even had an artist make a sketch and put it on front page of the sentinal.
looked nice travelling down trinity street hanley, anybody heard anymore about the idea after the election....... four years ago?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2009 20:16:00 GMT
Huddy, you know that is complete tosh. Michael Heseltine came to visit Stoke in the late 80s. Told a Ted Smith that Stoke had to change its ways and move forward. Ted Smith said Heseltine didn't know what he is talking about ??? Stoke as gone backwards...Right whatabout our culturecorner This would be the same Michael Heseltine who announced the mass closure of Britains Collieries, thus ending our own coal industry? The same multi millionaire owner of Haymarket Publishing? Stoke was denied investment when other Cities like Manchester , Liverpool, Newcastle were favoured over it. Michael Heseltine has never had to do a hard day's graft in his privileged life, much as I had no time for Ted Smith either he was in this instance, correct. Again rubbish huddy, Heseltine gave advice for Stoke to move forward. Only Ted Smith did not agree with it saying it was 'ok' as we were. Stoke's problem is that the population voted the same 'Labour' councillors saying pots and coal would last and did bugger all to get new firms into this city. As you one of those silly Labour folk you will enlighten us of the achievements of Stoke south mp...George Stevenson
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 17, 2009 20:43:44 GMT
George Stevenson isn't the MP for Stoke On Trent South - this is Rob Flello. I don't quite know what your point is. I'm not entirely sure why you want this info, but it's readily available on the internet. Someone mentioned earlier, that the Tories will never get in around here. Well, Stoke On Trent City Council is Conservative lead, most notably by Ross Irving who is the Council Leader & member of the Conservative & Independent Alliance. Some may say that, whichever political persuasion you belong to, the citing of the Stoke On Trent CLP for being part responsible for the woes of our city is the most accurate description of the local state of affairs. Personally, I feel it goes much deeper than party politics. I think it goes straight to the heart of the Council Chamber - an institution where at the moment, it seems, pride comes before principle, and definitely before political party. To some extent, I can fully appreciate the apathy that the youth of this City has towards its political figureheads. The Council is hell-bent on keeping things in-house and fr not taking kindly to outside influence - often tailored to The Sentinel as interference. Don't take it from me - read this:- www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/City-regeneration-body-163-1-6b-strategy/article-1402686-detail/article.htmlThere is a fundamental problem around here - and, in my humble opinion, and for what it is for - it is quite clearly arrogance. Poeple need a politics they can relate to - someone they can talk to if they've got issues, someone accessible, someone on a level they don't consider to be "the ruling elite". As far as this is concerned, the party to which these people belong is irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2009 21:20:23 GMT
George Stevenson isn't the MP for Stoke On Trent South - this is Rob Flello. I don't quite know what your point is. I'm not entirely sure why you want this info, but it's readily available on the internet. Someone mentioned earlier, that the Tories will never get in around here. Well, Stoke On Trent City Council is Conservative lead, most notably by Ross Irving who is the Council Leader & member of the Conservative & Independent Alliance. Some may say that, whichever political persuasion you belong to, the citing of the Stoke On Trent CLP for being part responsible for the woes of our city is the most accurate description of the local state of affairs. Personally, I feel it goes much deeper than party politics. I think it goes straight to the heart of the Council Chamber - an institution where at the moment, it seems, pride comes before principle, and definitely before political party. To some extent, I can fully appreciate the apathy that the youth of this City has towards its political figureheads. The Council is hell-bent on keeping things in-house and fr not taking kindly to outside influence - often tailored to The Sentinel as interference. Don't take it from me - read this:- www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/City-regeneration-body-163-1-6b-strategy/article-1402686-detail/article.htmlThere is a fundamental problem around here - and, in my humble opinion, and for what it is for - it is quite clearly arrogance. Poeple need a politics they can relate to - someone they can talk to if they've got issues, someone accessible, someone on a level they don't consider to be "the ruling elite". As far as this is concerned, the party to which these people belong is irrelevant. Bloody hell jay, you do go on mate . Have Labour over the last 30 years made Stoke a better city. Yes or no? Or will we have to scroll 20mins of your next comments for no answer ;D
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 18, 2009 2:23:32 GMT
Be quiet rmb ;D It's not as straight forward a question as you make out, rmb. 30 years ago we had coal, steel and pottery industries around here - and we all know who took those away. If we're being literal then one has to say no, things haven't got better, but whichever way you paint the picture the politicians of this City generally haven't done enough and it's not fair to blame one party for it. The one thing we can both probably agree on is that politicians generally around here have found it all too easy to get elected - until recently.
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