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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2009 16:41:14 GMT
I notice the Sentinel have it down with Huth and Collins at full back  with Beats and Kitson up top! Can anyone who listen to the football phone in, post what Acres says it will be as he is usually spot on. Cheers. |
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Post by BiddulphStokie on Oct 2, 2009 16:42:56 GMT
oh dear oh dear
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 16:43:30 GMT
So 4-4-1-1/4-4-2 then?
Whats wrong with that now? Is'nt that what everyone wanted after the recent tinkering with 5-3-2 and 4-5-1?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2009 16:47:59 GMT
Why not Tuncay? Oh he's not fit. Neither is Beattie. What's good for one isn't for the other!  And I'm not going to get started on Collins. And Huth is no full back. |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Oct 2, 2009 16:54:05 GMT
I don't like the idea of kitson and beattie together, no pace at all. I know tuncay isn't exactly lightning but i think he'd be a more appropriate partner for kitson.
Collins is being given a chance to settle in which isn't the worst thing in the world, although the temptation of recalling a fit, in form higginbotham must be pretty big even for pulis. Collins is due a good performance though, I reckon he's got to show real signs of improvement over the next 4 or 5 games or he'll be dropped.
I would have dropped him last weekend personally.
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 16:54:51 GMT
Why not Tuncay? Oh he's not fit. Neither is Beattie. What's good for one isn't for the other! And I'm not going to get started on Collins. And Huth is no full back. Tuncay is'nt Tony Pulis fit yet. Come on, we all know the score with that one.  Beattie will probably start the game but will be subbed for Fuller/Tuncay. Huth is a solid defender who has done alright at full back. Nothing more and nothing less. Collins is garbage, i'll give you that one. I thought is was the system, tactics and managerial mentality that decided how and what results were borne out, and not the players within that framework? Thats what i've been picking up off here for the last few weeks. So in that case, rest your little head bayern and relax. ;D |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2009 16:58:38 GMT
The bloke makes me so angry! ;D
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 2, 2009 17:07:10 GMT
Tone pulls a fast one & plays a unique formation of 4-2-4!!!! LOL
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Post by gilberto on Oct 2, 2009 17:19:19 GMT
dunno if it's been mentioned on p&g yet or on here, but radio stoke at 5.30pm were saying lawrence and fuller are both available having trained today.
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Post by funkyphantom on Oct 2, 2009 17:33:26 GMT
Tone pulls a fast one & plays a unique formation of 4-2-4!!!! LOL We might as well do that actually, We bypass the midfield anyway!!  |
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Post by miscchiefbrew on Oct 2, 2009 17:38:05 GMT
Another defeat looms then. ???
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2009 17:39:39 GMT
Nah! But it does stink of hold 'em and then try and beat them in the last 20 minutes. So it probably does actually! ;D  |
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 17:45:55 GMT
Why not Tuncay? Oh he's not fit. Neither is Beattie. What's good for one isn't for the other! And I'm not going to get started on Collins. And Huth is no full back. spot on. Wilko and Higgy must come in end of, Huth certainly Collins like Tuncay must wait there turn as they have totally unbalanced the team. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 19:41:43 GMT
Why not Tuncay? Oh he's not fit. Neither is Beattie. What's good for one isn't for the other! And I'm not going to get started on Collins. And Huth is no full back. Tuncay is'nt Tony Pulis fit yet. Come on, we all know the score with that one. Beattie will probably start the game but will be subbed for Fuller/Tuncay. Huth is a solid defender who has done alright at full back. Nothing more and nothing less. Collins is garbage, i'll give you that one. I thought is was the system, tactics and managerial mentality that decided how and what results were borne out, and not the players within that framework? Thats what i've been picking up off here for the last few weeks. So in that case, rest your little head bayern and relax. ;D Yeah and of course the system and tactics have absolutely no effect on how those individual players perform! |
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 2, 2009 19:46:22 GMT
kitson and beattie for me will never work, not enough pace! kitson is a very clever player and as been one of the players of the season, but fuck me play tuncay with him, them two up front against a tired everton side (thats if they have enough fit players put a team out) would create all sorts of problems, if tunny aint proplerly fit then take him off after the hour but lets go out and try win the fucking game!
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 19:48:55 GMT
Yeah and of course the system and tactics have absolutely no effect on how those individual players perform! Blimey, don't you learn new things every day? Here's me thinking Pulis is just here to fashion the latest designs from Elizabeth Duke and Dragon's Den very own proteges, Dr Cap whilst reeling out every cliche and excuse under the sun... Don't tell me he actually has to click his fingers and tell the lads to "attack" to suddenly turn these guys into world beaters, capable of taking on all comers? |
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 19:50:34 GMT
kitson and beattie for me will never work, not enough pace! kitson is a very clever player and as been one of the players of the season, but fuck me play tuncay with him, them two up front against a tired everton side (thats if they have enough fit players put a team out) would create all sorts of problems, if tunny aint proplerly fit then take him off after the hour but lets go out and try win the fucking game! spot on peck,how fit as Tuncay got to be ffs as Diao and sidibe always seem to walk back in after been out with injurys but this lad has been away on international duty scoring twice and playing football! just what the fuck has he got to do!!! |
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 19:52:16 GMT
spot on peck,how fit as Tuncay got to be ffs as Diao and sidibe always seem to walk back in after been out with injurys but this lad has been away on international duty scoring twice and playing football! just what the fuck has he got to do!!! How very dare you! 'When fit, Salif is the best player in the club by a mile' Of course he's rushed back! |
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 2, 2009 19:52:20 GMT
exactly son, he was playing for boro when he signed, been away with his country twice fuck me do they want him win superstars before he can play! fuck me has tp seen the size of beatties arse?? if hes fit tuncays fucking superman
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 19:54:05 GMT
Yeah and of course the system and tactics have absolutely no effect on how those individual players perform! Blimey, don't you learn new things every day? Here's me thinking Pulis is just here to fashion the latest designs from Elizabeth Duke and Dragon's Den very own proteges, Dr Cap whilst reeling out every cliche and excuse under the sun... Don't tell me he actually has to click his fingers and tell the lads to "attack" to suddenly turn these guys into world beaters, capable of taking on all comers? Oh and I don't think Huth has done alright at right back either. In both games that he's been played there he has been caught out wandering off towards the centre of defence and left the right back spot exposed. Lawrence attempted to block that gap in the second half at Bolton and for a good deal of the game last Saturday. Not knocking the wonderful ability that Huth displays when he's on the ball but that's not going to blinker to me to the fact that he's actually severely limited in the right back position. |
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Post by march4 on Oct 2, 2009 19:58:17 GMT
Setting aside the comments of those who don't know the fitness of any of our players (all of us) did Radio Stoke announce a likely line up or are they waiting for tomorrow.
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Post by serpico on Oct 2, 2009 19:58:19 GMT
I can live with Kitson and Beattie playing up top, i don't really have a big problem with that, what i cannot live with is Tuncay not being started when we have a mini striker crisis, like we had against Manure, Pulis can't half be stubborn sometimes, and he was dead wrong not to play Tuncay last week.
Interesting that TP is going with the "he's not fully fit" line, because in a interview with whitehead the other week he said "Tuncay never stops running in training" and he looked pretty sharp to me against Blackpool, where he set 2 goals up and won a penalty .
TP has picked half fit players in the past as well, certainly Fuller has been thrown on when only 70% fit previously, Delap played a run of games last season when he was patently unfit when he had a shoulder injury.
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Post by march4 on Oct 2, 2009 20:02:11 GMT
I can live with Kitson and Beattie playing up top, i don't really have a big problem with that, what i cannot live with is Tuncay not being started when we have a mini striker crisis, like we had against Manure, Pulis can't half be stubborn sometimes, and he was dead wrong not to play Tuncay last week. Interesting that TP is going with the "he's not fully fit" line, because in a interview with whitehead the other week he said "Tuncay never stops running in training" and he looked pretty sharp to me against Blackpool, where he set 2 goals up and won a penalty . Playing against Blackpool reserves is hardly a test though is it. He didn't touch the ball last week - more worryingly he didn't run after the ball. To keep suggesting he starts is wishful thinking in my way of thinking (which is a strange way of thinking - obviously). |
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 20:02:13 GMT
Huth is a serious upgrade on Wilkinson - even if he is shoe horned in at full back. Better defender by far and far more composed on the ball. Swap Huth's occasional drifts into the middle for Wilkinson's (bizarre) sudden tendancy to get caught high up the pitch (something he has started to do this season for no apparent reason). Mourinho played Huth at full back when he was at Chelsea. Mourinho had better style though, to be fair, and he does'nt wear a cap... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 20:02:20 GMT
I can live with Kitson and Beattie playing up top, i don't really have a big problem with that, what i cannot live with is Tuncay not being started when we have a mini striker crisis, like we had against Manure, Pulis can't half be stubborn sometimes, and he was dead wrong not to play Tuncay last week. Interesting that TP is going with the "he's not fully fit" line, because in a interview with whitehead the other week he said "Tuncay never stops running in training" and he looked pretty sharp to me against Blackpool, where he set 2 goals up and won a penalty . Yep agree with you on both Beattie starting tomorrow and Tuncay not starting last week Serps. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 20:04:07 GMT
Huth is a serious upgrade on Wilkinson - even if he is shoe horned in at full back. Better defender by far and far more composed on the ball. Are you saying that Huth is a serious upgrade on Wilko at right back then fella? |
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Post by scfcrmagic on Oct 2, 2009 20:05:20 GMT
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Post by march4 on Oct 2, 2009 20:05:29 GMT
Huth is way better than Wilko. It is not even a serious question to compare, is it?
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Post by serpico on Oct 2, 2009 20:05:32 GMT
I can live with Kitson and Beattie playing up top, i don't really have a big problem with that, what i cannot live with is Tuncay not being started when we have a mini striker crisis, like we had against Manure, Pulis can't half be stubborn sometimes, and he was dead wrong not to play Tuncay last week. Interesting that TP is going with the "he's not fully fit" line, because in a interview with whitehead the other week he said "Tuncay never stops running in training" and he looked pretty sharp to me against Blackpool, where he set 2 goals up and won a penalty . Playing against Blackpool reserves is hardly a test though is it. He didn't touch the ball last week - more worryingly he didn't run after the ball. To keep suggesting he starts is wishful thinking in my way of thinking (which is a strange way of thinking - obviously). The quality of opposition isn't really the point though, he looked fit enough to have started the ManUre game imo, and he most certainly should have given the circumstances of our striker situation, nothing you can say can make the decision not to start him make any sense whatsoever . Pulis shit the bed, plain and simple. |
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 2, 2009 20:06:16 GMT
Are you saying that Huth is a serious upgrade on Wilko at right back then fella? Yes I am. He's a better defender and he does'nt always aimlessly hoof the ball up the touchline - despite many supporters telling us thats what the manager instructs his full backs to do. |
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with Beats and Kitson up top! 
Beattie will probably start the game but will be subbed for Fuller/Tuncay. 
