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Post by luke45 on Oct 2, 2009 20:09:26 GMT
but Mr Negative said after the Blackpool goal feast that he preferred to win 1-0..that really says it all about the boring bastard!!! Negative? Surely a clean sheet and a victory is better than a victory with 3 goals conceded?
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Post by march4 on Oct 2, 2009 20:10:57 GMT
I love 1-0 wins. The very best teams specialise in them.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 20:12:09 GMT
Bolton he went negative to try and hold on but all that does is to invite MORE pressure on us which can lead to mistakes as people over crowd at times in the box when we were so comfortable but kitson had to go off for the second game running the same v chelsea which cost us points!!!
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 20:14:16 GMT
but Mr Negative said after the Blackpool goal feast that he preferred to win 1-0..that really says it all about the boring bastard!!! Negative? Surely a clean sheet and a victory is better than a victory with 3 goals conceded? Its called entertainment...remember the binary season or didn't you go then!!!
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Post by ianrb1 on Oct 2, 2009 20:15:12 GMT
It will be a tough test, and I will be delighted with a draw.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 20:15:37 GMT
I love 1-0 wins. The very best teams specialise in them. When playing bad yes but they still believe and have the ambition to still get three points we just concede 3pts before a ball is kicked!!!
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Post by luke45 on Oct 2, 2009 20:17:59 GMT
Negative? Surely a clean sheet and a victory is better than a victory with 3 goals conceded? Its called entertainment...remember the binary season or didn't you go then!!! So you do prefer 3 goals being conceded to a clean sheet then? Incredible! ;D
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 2, 2009 20:18:38 GMT
Let's just have a proper look at what we've done so far. We have played three away games and have lost one of them (To Liverpool!). We have played 4 teams that we can expect to be our closest competitors this season- we have won 2 and drawn 2 (away). We have also got through two rounds of the Carling cup and are one game away from the quarter final. In all we have lost 3 of our 9 games (TO LIVERPOOL, CHELSEA and Man UNITED) and have failed to be beaten in 6 of our nine games (winning 4 of them). Seven games in we have this pile of shit! IMO it's total bollocks.
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 2, 2009 20:22:00 GMT
doz if you look at what people are syaing it aint the fact we lost to liverpool chelsea and united, its the fact we waved a white flag and surrendered the games! did burnley do that? did wigan do that? did villa go anfield and do that?? no is the answer to all 3, they gave them questions to answer! what have we done?? rolled over and die tactics! thats not acceptable
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 2, 2009 20:28:49 GMT
deano: I agree mate, we were bloody awful in those games and Pulis really does need to stop shitting himself at the quality of the opposition when it comes to tactics and team selection. ALL of the other games, I have no real complaints. Despite what Jarhead says about us 'going negative' at Bolton. I don't think that's true to be honest. Bolton were bound to 'have a go' at salvaging a point from the game and that's exactly what they did. They still would have lost but for a crazy defensive error. In the grand scheme of the season, we have made a good start and, although the criticism of the 'Big Three' games is fully justified, there is no real justification for the depth of the discontent on here. The facts attached our 9 games so far say that we are doing well.
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 2, 2009 20:31:50 GMT
doz i agree, after 7 games and the top 3 out the way i think its a decent return, perhaps its a statement of how far we have come when were dissapointed with draws at bolton and brum, especially bolton as they are an established team, i still think it was 2 massive points dropped though, the thing what grates on me is why kitson went off? and when he went off why pugh on? why not beattie and go like for like.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 2, 2009 20:35:03 GMT
I agree mate. He HAS made mistakes it's just the LEVEL of discontent that grates when, all-in-all we're doing just fine.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 2, 2009 20:36:57 GMT
doz i agree, after 7 games and the top 3 out the way i think its a decent return, perhaps its a statement of how far we have come when were dissapointed with draws at bolton and brum, especially bolton as they are an established team, i still think it was 2 massive points dropped though, the thing what grates on me is why kitson went off? and when he went off why pugh on? why not beattie and go like for like. But again he adopted sit back and take what we got tactics after kitson again was playing well holding the ball up always looking to get fuller in and that kept there back four guessing so what did that do when he took kitson off just say thanks for that lets get at em!then what happened?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 2, 2009 20:54:18 GMT
We had a similar situation at this stage last season, on the very same Sunday against Portsmouth. They had played till midnight in Portugal. We still lost. I was going along quite well until you reminded me of Pompey away bayern! Edit: Anyone still in any doubt as to why we sold Seyi should watch the match video of this game!
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Post by Davef on Oct 2, 2009 21:23:28 GMT
It will be a tough test, and I will be delighted with a draw. Testament to just how far we've come. I remember the days when Ian was delighted with a draw at Rotherham, Grimbsy and Bournemouth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 21:28:37 GMT
At least ianrb backed the right horse though.
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Post by ianrb1 on Oct 2, 2009 22:21:29 GMT
Yes Dave, testament to how far we have come. Rest assured, had we 'backed another horse' a draw at Tranmere would be the aim this weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 22:23:23 GMT
Spot on ian.
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Post by stoke69 on Oct 2, 2009 22:53:22 GMT
We should just go at them,fuller on the bench kits and tuncay up front
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Post by wuzza on Oct 3, 2009 3:27:08 GMT
And as far as the 'FOR THE TAKING' bit goes, Everton fans were on Radio Merseyside saying that they are playing aswell as they have done in a long time, have players available on Sunday who missed the mdweek game, and are fully expecting to 'take us apart'. Anything from this game will be a bonus.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2009 3:45:20 GMT
OK, we played defensively against liverpool/Man United and Chelsea. That was a result of Pulis being shit scared of the oppositon and I think it will always be in his make-up to use such tactics against those opponents. I don't think it's fair to say that we played in a negative manner against Burnley, Sunderland, Bolton or Birmingham. It is very early in the season and we have played 7 games. We controled large portions of the game away at Bolton and Birmingham and were 'undone' by a stupid mistake at Bolton when they 'inevitably' tried to get back in the game. The criticism's above and since the United match are valid only for the games against them, Liverpool and Chelsea IMO. We didn't play negatively in those games but we haven't created many chances or scored many goals either. We've also drawn 2 games we should have won. Bit of a worry imo.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2009 3:55:26 GMT
We had a similar situation at this stage last season, on the very same Sunday against Portsmouth. They had played till midnight in Portugal. We still lost. I was going along quite well until you reminded me of Pompey away bayern! Edit: Anyone still in any doubt as to why we sold Seyi should watch the match video of this game! That was truly a pathetic performance by the whole team. Portsmouth were there for the taking, despite having their talent back then and we just bent over and got our arses spanked. Griff got a new arsehole torn by Belhadj and Traore and then let Defoe cut inside-great plan! ;D It was my first away game I could manage to get to aswell!
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Post by Davef on Oct 3, 2009 10:30:01 GMT
At least ianrb backed the right horse though. I didn't know there was another 'horse' to back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 10:39:42 GMT
We have the players to get at any team and to do there best and see what happens we will go along with that but its if they ARE ALLOWED to and to express themselves but Mr Negative said after the Blackpool goal feast that he preferred to win 1-0..that really says it all about the boring bastard!!! ALL MANAGERS SAY THAT. It means they wish they hadn't conceded three goals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 10:44:30 GMT
At least ianrb backed the right horse though. I didn't know there was another 'horse' to back. I seem to remember various "horses" the brains trust on here wanted, as late as this past January after the Hartlepool game, included such luminaries as Mike Newell, Nigel Clough and Gustavo Poyet. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
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Post by griffoisalegend on Oct 3, 2009 10:44:41 GMT
"We have the players to get at any team"
I'm sorry, but i don't get this notion. I only see Tuncay attacking wise who'd walk into another top 15 premiership side. You compare our "front" 6 to other clubs bar the obvious ones - and we're nowhere near still, Whelan, Delap, Lawrence, Etherington, Kitson, Fuller - maybe only the latter could get in these teams.
We're still a long way away from being a premiership team going forward, give it another 2 years and we may start to see more quality, but i know people won't wait that long!
At home, we may have the team to get at any from the top 6 or 7, but away from home - best we can hope for is a point and it is stupid going to places like Goodison park hoping to get 3 points and "attack".
Regards to Deano - Villa have the players to do it, i don't think we do! Wigan also have better footballers than us!
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Oct 3, 2009 10:51:27 GMT
I don't understand how a team who have just won 5 games in a row, with players coming back to fitness, at home, against us with our dismal away record and approach are 'there for the taking.'
Somebody explain?
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Post by griffoisalegend on Oct 3, 2009 10:56:31 GMT
I don't understand how a team who have just won 5 games in a row, with players coming back to fitness, at home, against us with our dismal away record and approach are 'there for the taking.' Somebody explain? We have Fuller, Kitson,and Tuncay to destroy them though! They only have shit players who will be bread and butter for Abdoulaye like Yakubu, Cahill, Saha, Jo,Pienaar,Fellaini and shit defenders like Baines and Yobo. Let's face it, our only chance is to get two banks of four and hope we get something on the break, their team is on another level to ours so how people think if we "go for it" we'll have a much better chance is beyond me ;D
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 3, 2009 10:56:41 GMT
TP will see this game for what it is and thats a very tough away game. We are still pretty crap away from home and I dont see this season being any different. Forget the midweek game...everton will no doubt be handed the initiative to attack from early on and they will. I expect us to concede early and then damage limitation. I remember last season Spurs had a midweek game and we went to sit on the beach in Dubai. We were 3 down in the first half!
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Post by Davef on Oct 3, 2009 12:25:17 GMT
I didn't know there was another 'horse' to back. I seem to remember various "horses" the brains trust on here wanted, as late as this past January after the Hartlepool game, included such luminaries as Mike Newell, Nigel Clough and Gustavo Poyet. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. I think the "backing the right horse" line was a dig at my opposition to TP returning and a failure to see my light hearted post for what it was. Never mind, I'll get over it.
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