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Post by mistersausage on Oct 2, 2009 16:33:46 GMT
A very decent bloke. I used to piss myself every time he said ashtually, which was often.
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Post by march4 on Oct 2, 2009 16:37:38 GMT
Decent bloke.
Dreadful manager who has had a good first 3 months at every club, before falling away.
He will end up back in Iceland running the equivalent of a pub team.
Highlight of his career will be the amazing spell he had as national manager.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 17:07:37 GMT
More negative than Pulis ever was?....You must have been sleeping in the binary season! Saying that,A lot of people were! Pulis plays 5-3-2 at home now and again. Gudjon did it every fucking week against the likes of Cambridge Utd and Oldham. That Walsall play off formation was more retarded than anything Tone ever came up with.
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Post by ianrb1 on Oct 2, 2009 20:12:33 GMT
No he wasn't. He had the biggest budget in the old Third Division and it would take him three years and a little bit of fortune for him to get us out of it. None of the players he signed were ever sold on for any money.
What he and Boskamp have gone onto achieve since they left us speak volumes for their ability.
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 2, 2009 20:17:43 GMT
He was alright for us. He gave us respect and he got us promoted. Some people want fucking miracles.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 2, 2009 20:43:56 GMT
I'm another one in the decent bloke/average manager camp
I would, however, have given him a crack at the championship, once he had got us up. Not sure it would have been a good decision given his record since
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 2, 2009 21:05:41 GMT
Sacking him is another of Crewe's daft decisions on the road back to perdition imho, but now we've seen him mess up (or not get enough time depending on your point of view) at several English clubs now, honestly did we get promoted because of him or in spite of him? He's a really likable guy but I'm not so sure about the managerial talent - what does anyone else reckon? Agree with all of that except for the bit about it being a daft decision to sack him. More likely the daft decision was for Crewe to appoint him in the first place. He's never really got to grips with English football and he got very lucky in the playoff semis at Cardiff. Without those two late goals he would almost certainly have gone then. As opposed to two weeks later after he'd won the play-offs you mean? Yes, I have a feeling he would've gone then too! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by njkk on Oct 2, 2009 22:05:55 GMT
I wasn't happy when we sacked him, but some of the goings on when he was manager were to say the least a bit strange.
At the time Petur Martinssen was a fantastic player but we never got to see him play very often, then there was that goalie he bought (can't think of his name) who was reportedly one of the highest paid at the club, he never got further than the subs bench.
Remember going to a meet the players night before the Walsall playoff debacle, talking to Kavanagh & JoC and from what they said it was clear he had lost the dressing room, and there was a huge rift between the Icelandic players and rest of the team, not something you wanted to hear at at time when they should have been all pulling together for the cause.
From what I heard at the time, Gudjon even caused major upset at board level, he had backers amongst the many investors but just as many who wanted him out due to his constant disagreements over the players he wanted to sign, so maybe it was only a matter of time before he went too far and got the axe
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Post by truckerged on Oct 3, 2009 8:58:41 GMT
i liked the guy wore his heart on his sleeve and was never shy to voice his opinions. had a memorable day out at wembley and who could forget cardiff?at the end of the day he got us promoted which was his job but i think he should have been given a chance to manage in the fizzy pop league
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Post by MrMagic on Oct 3, 2009 9:03:15 GMT
More negative than Pulis ever was?....You must have been sleeping in the binary season! Saying that,A lot of people were! Pulis plays 5-3-2 at home now and again. Gudjon did it every fucking week against the likes of Cambridge Utd and Oldham. That Walsall play off formation was more retarded than anything Tone ever came up with. You stole my post Rob. Gudjon should have been shot in the carpark at Walsall for that disaster. Pulis is frustrating, but anyone who thinks Gudjon was somehow less so is puddled.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 3, 2009 9:29:31 GMT
I knew Gudjon socially as one of his sons was in the same class as my daughter at edenhurst prep school. He was tremendous fun and good company to be around. As a manager he was pretty average but gave us some good times. It was rarely a dull moment with Gudjon in charge and lets not forget he did deliver us Peter Hoeskstra and for that I will be eternally grateful.
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Post by jumborat on Oct 3, 2009 9:34:40 GMT
You stole my post Rob. Gudjon should have been shot in the carpark at Walsall for that disaster. I was going to say the same. I never forgave him for dropping Thorne and playing Dadason upfront on his own.
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Post by Davef on Oct 3, 2009 10:14:33 GMT
Gudjon's record over two and half seasons of bread and butter league football didn't really stand up to much scrutiny. Two finishes of fifth and a sixth as the likes of Brighton and Rotherham were promoted automatically ahead of us wasn't so great.
In the end, Gislason and the board had a choice to make. After taking as long as it did to win promotion, and even then by the skin of our teeth, did they really feel that in Gudjon they had a manager who could keep Stoke in the Championship after his record a league lower?
We'll never know how Gudjon would have done at this level as the Stoke manager, but with the benefit of hindsight with his record at other clubs, they made the correct decision, though I do think there was more to his dismissal than merely his team's results and performances.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 3, 2009 10:24:54 GMT
We'll never know how Gudjon would have done at this level as the Stoke manager, but with the benefit of hindsight with his record at other clubs, they made the correct decision, That is the top middle and bottom of it.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Oct 3, 2009 10:41:53 GMT
The twilight years in the 3rd tier were awful, full stop, regardless of who was managing us, IMO But from a great start at Notts County (OK, OK, that's the FOURTH tier, I know ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/jitsPgqXBozY69AOPrPg.gif) by season end they had to win on the last day to avoid the Conference, and his name was a hate-word in this city He made bizarre signings, played a stubborn formation, County shipped goals continually and it was a disaster ( I saw some of the home performances ) I don't know him as CousinDupree seemingly does, but I don't ever miss him at my club and whilst TP can frustrate the hell out of me sometimes, I wouldn't swop him for Gudjon
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 12:13:14 GMT
In my time watching Stoke (from the Waddo era about 1968) there have been only five managers who, regardless of backing, tactics or anything else, have done more good than harm: Waddo, Durban, Macari, Gudjon and Pulis. The rest have either taken us backwards or nowhere at all.
GT did two things as a manager. He stopped us going backwards and got us moving forwards. Outside of management, it should not be forgotten that he also was the driving force behind the buyout and refinancing of the club. Arguably, Gudjon did more than any other manager has for Stoke and without his input at that critical time, we could easily have carried on sliding into oblivion.
I agree I wouldn't want him back now, but I really do want him to do well somewhere else - He has a right to a massive amount of goodwill from Stoke, it's a shame he doesn't always get it.
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