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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 2, 2009 11:57:46 GMT
Sacking him is another of Crewe's daft decisions on the road back to perdition imho, but now we've seen him mess up (or not get enough time depending on your point of view) at several English clubs now, honestly did we get promoted because of him or in spite of him? He's a really likable guy but I'm not so sure about the managerial talent - what does anyone else reckon?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 12:26:33 GMT
It was the best of times and the worst of times under Gudjon. We had some good results and performances and some howling surrenders as well. He (with Rudgie's help) made some very good signings, but also signed David Rowson and Rikki Dadason.
Overall he deserves to be remembered fondly but we should have probably gone up a season before we did and tactically I'd argue he was more negative than Pulis ever was. His stubborn insistence on playing 5-3-2 at home was a pain in the arse. He was also exceptionally well backed for a thrid tier manager.
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Post by troj on Oct 2, 2009 12:28:39 GMT
He got us promoted. So in my view yes.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Oct 2, 2009 12:34:34 GMT
Every dog has it's day and it looks as if he had that day with us. In spite of this, he'll always be fondly remembered by me.
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Post by craig67 on Oct 2, 2009 12:39:26 GMT
Some of his decision making was bizarre to say the least.But when push came to shove he did get us promoted.
He should have got us promoted a year earlier but who says we would have been where we are now if he had.
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Post by scfcrob on Oct 2, 2009 12:42:48 GMT
Agent G - Mission Accomplished, return to base
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 12:53:56 GMT
I was one of the few who was delighted the day he was sacked.
I said at the time that my ideal scenario was to win the play offs and then for Gudjon to get the sack.
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Post by troj on Oct 2, 2009 13:05:39 GMT
why paul?
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Post by Northy on Oct 2, 2009 13:06:58 GMT
The players and squad he had that season it was shocking to only finish in the play offs in that divison.
I didn't rate him that much, some of his tactics and player positioning was very bizzare at times.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Oct 2, 2009 13:16:15 GMT
More negative than Pulis ever was?....You must have been sleeping in the binary season! Saying that,A lot of people were!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 2, 2009 13:21:27 GMT
Because I hated being in the thrid tier of England football and didn't want to return there again almost immediately. From pretty early on his tenure I voiced very loudly on here that I believed he was tactically inept. Indeed, if I remember rightly, it was a post of mine detailing all the reasons why I believed he wasn't good enough, that prompted Old Stokie to post on here for the very first time, challenging my opinion of him. We were promoted very much despite Gudjon rather because of him IMHO. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 2, 2009 13:22:58 GMT
Gudjon achieved a little with a lot of resources. His sacking looked harsher than it was because of the timing. However, it was absolutely the right thing to do.
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Post by mark71 on Oct 2, 2009 13:37:33 GMT
We've had worse managers but that's hardly any recommendation  When you consider the resources Gudjon was given and compare it to the clubs that got promoted before and alongside us he was a failure. Mark McGee got Milwall promoted in his first season in charge. Even the mighty Wallsall beat us to promotion. Just have a look at those fellow promotion rivals we had then and see where they are now! Thordasson wasted thousands on below average players who he couldn't get the best out of. He was only give the Stoke job to get the Icelandic money men on board, all this talk about him coming to watch players and thinking it would be a good idea to buy the club is utter tosh. He showed his true colors when he was sacked. I will always be grateful for the promotion but thankful his time at this club will be a distant memory. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 2, 2009 13:42:04 GMT
Promotion or not, I was never convinced with him and wasn't that bothered when he got the sack shortly afterwards. The only thing that made me feel sorry for him was that picture in the Sentinal of him looking pretty filled up!!!  |
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 2, 2009 13:42:51 GMT
Sacking him is another of Crewe's daft decisions on the road back to perdition imho, but now we've seen him mess up (or not get enough time depending on your point of view) at several English clubs now, honestly did we get promoted because of him or in spite of him? He's a really likable guy but I'm not so sure about the managerial talent - what does anyone else reckon? Agree with all of that except for the bit about it being a daft decision to sack him. More likely the daft decision was for Crewe to appoint him in the first place. He's never really got to grips with English football and he got very lucky in the playoff semis at Cardiff. Without those two late goals he would almost certainly have gone then. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 2, 2009 13:43:10 GMT
P.S. his lad Bjarni was wank as well!!!
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 2, 2009 13:44:13 GMT
5th in the third tier of football was NOT an achievement.
Also some of the rumours of occurences involving him would result in instant dismissal in other employment situations. Whether they happpened or not they do suggest he was something of a loose cannon at times.
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 2, 2009 13:47:02 GMT
P.S. his lad Bjarni was wank as well!!! I thought I was unique in holding that opinion! |
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Post by mark71 on Oct 2, 2009 13:48:43 GMT
P.S. his lad Bjarni was wank as well!!! I thought I was unique in holding that opinion! Far from it! he was as disliked in the dressing room as he was in the stands. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2009 13:49:16 GMT
Because I hated being in the thrid tier of England football and didn't want to return there again almost immediately. From pretty early on his tenure I voiced very loudly on here that I believed he was tactically inept. Indeed, if I remember rightly, it was a post of mine detailing all the reasons why I believed he wasn't good enough, that prompted Old Stokie to post on here for the very first time, challenging my opinion of him. We were promoted very much despite Gudjon rather because of him IMHO.I think that of TP but keep it quiet!  |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Oct 2, 2009 14:34:05 GMT
I like Gudgon but there is no doubting that he is temperamental
Known to like a bevvy Gudjon also has a colourful vocabulary which I suspect won't have gone down well at Crewe.
Gudgon had as many serious enemies as friends and he may have picked on the wrong ones this time round
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Oct 2, 2009 14:35:49 GMT
I was one of the few who was delighted the day he was sacked. I said at the time that my ideal scenario was to win the play offs and then for Gudjon to get the sack. I was the other one. I never recovered from the fiasco of a play-off semi-final at Smallsall. He has lived off the back of only just loosing to France for longer than is good for any English club to take him seriously again. |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 2, 2009 14:45:33 GMT
Every dog has it's day and it looks as if he had that day with us. In spite of this, he'll always be fondly remembered by me. Absolutely. Some bad days at the office of course... but also some brilliant ones he certainly started and finished on the right notes. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 2, 2009 14:48:28 GMT
Winning the thingy at Wembley should have been the pivot to promotion but all momentum was quickly lost. The constant air of discontent was depressing.
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Post by Coll40 on Oct 2, 2009 14:52:58 GMT
He was shit.
We finished fifth in a crap league - and didn't we get promoted via Oulare's arse ?
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 2, 2009 14:56:01 GMT
Oulare's arse yeah. That night at Ninian was truly staggering BUT, the point has to be made, if anyone else went up as late and disjointedly as that we'd say how jammy they were. Ours wasn't jammy but of course I'm biased!!
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 2, 2009 15:18:06 GMT
What ever he was for us just what do Crewe expect? They really are deluded in the way they think saying that they would swop promotion for playing a certain way of football.
I hope they go down again.
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Post by stokiemark1 on Oct 2, 2009 15:21:45 GMT
Surely he wasn't as bad as Pulis, Wolstanton?
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Post by stokiemark1 on Oct 2, 2009 15:22:10 GMT
Surely he wasn't as bad as Pulis, Wolstanton?
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Post by stokiemark1 on Oct 2, 2009 15:22:51 GMT
Worth saying twice
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