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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2009 11:59:30 GMT
I haven't heard him say much positive about him so far.
Didn't like the use of the phrase 'big-time charlies' in his interviews when talking about the new players.
Why use that phrase???
It's not exactly the warmest of welcomes.
I know that Peter Coates is big mates with Middlesborough chairman, and from his interview PC seems to be alot more excited about our new signing than the manager.
TP seems very cautious, talking about 'it can take a year for a player to settle in'. I'm not sure you can compare Kitson and Tuncay. Tuncay is an established international player who has more than proved himself at the highest level.
Sounds like he's trying to prepare us for weeks of Tuncay on the bench....i hope not.
Anyone else worried!!!!
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Post by ParaPsych on Sept 11, 2009 12:01:37 GMT
"Did TP want Tuncay?"
Yes.
"Anyone else worried!!!!"
No.
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Post by Kelkerstokie on Sept 11, 2009 12:04:49 GMT
Nope, think you need some tablets for paranoia.  I doubt we will see him from the start tomorrow, if at all, as long as we are not chasing the game. I'm sure he has only taken 3-4 training sessions with the team, tp will give him time to adapt to our style of play.....which to be honest is quite a bit from the way Middlesbough play. |
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Post by jen on Sept 11, 2009 12:06:28 GMT
But when TP said "big time charlies" he was saying that none of the players at Stoke are (including the new players). I think his comments about players taking time to settle are to manage expectations from fans.
I don't have a problem with that.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 11, 2009 12:07:49 GMT
But when TP said "big time charlies" he was saying that none of the players at Stoke are (including the new players). I think his comments about players taking time to settle are to manage expectations from fans.I don't have a problem with that. i'll second that...makes sense. |
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Post by Beatties Side Boob on Sept 11, 2009 12:08:02 GMT
i have not doubt that he will start the bolton game.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 11, 2009 12:22:16 GMT
spit, are you a natural worrier?
;D
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Post by congodread on Sept 11, 2009 12:24:41 GMT
you could see from the work Tuncay put into his performances in a doomed Boro team last season that he is no big time charlie. I would say that TP can see what everyone else can in Tuncay - workrate, quality AND flair, he is exactly the type of player TP has been talking about signing for a while now.
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Post by albanianstokie on Sept 11, 2009 12:40:29 GMT
yes all makes sense, bench tomorrow, expect him to make the starting line up in the coming weeks.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 11, 2009 12:49:38 GMT
Cant see his big time charlie remarks being aimed at Tuncay. As said earlier Tuncay is so perfect for TP, and I was saying this last season, that I was staggered we didnt go for him as soon as the window opened..maybe it would of cost us another 2m on the fee, who knows but he signed him in the end.
The interesting observation is where and how often will he start. I dont think we will ever see a starting line up that includes all of Lennie Ethers Tuncay and Ricci....maybe 3 but not all 4.
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Post by thewizard on Sept 11, 2009 12:51:33 GMT
this is what a week of international friendlys does to some fans ;D ;D
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Post by lordb on Sept 11, 2009 12:53:13 GMT
can see his point actually.
imho: file this under 'maybe'.
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Post by seychellesstokie on Sept 11, 2009 12:58:10 GMT
I'm constantly amazed at how some can find a negative in even the most positive situation. Of course Pulis wants Tuncay in the squad. That's why he signed him.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 11, 2009 12:59:01 GMT
Some people worry too much!
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Post by Miles Offside on Sept 11, 2009 12:59:15 GMT
you lot please yourselves, but I think Spit's got a point.
I once heard Pulis use the phrase "this football club". Now don't try to tell me that that wasn't a personal swipe at Peter Coates (who he clearly hates) as he wasn't prepared to name the club Coates owns.
And every time he says "work aard" is a clear reference to the fact that he likes to get popped-up every Saturday night in Tunstall.
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Post by march4 on Sept 11, 2009 13:00:32 GMT
"Did TP want Tuncay?" Yes. "Anyone else worried!!!!" No. I'm worried and have been since his name was first mentioned. No one has told me yet even where he will play, because there is no chance that Plan A will be altered to accommodate him. Is he any good at right back (only joking - I think). I'll reserve comment until Christmas, by which time I'm hoping we are sitting mid-table, Tuncay is the biggest hero since Huddy and our team looks settled and exciting. |
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Post by bentrep01 on Sept 11, 2009 13:06:07 GMT
you lot please yourselves, but I think Spit's got a point. I once heard Pulis use the phrase "this football club". Now don't try to tell me that that wasn't a personal swipe at Peter Coates (who he clearly hates) as he wasn't prepared to name the club Coates owns. And every time he says "work aard" is a clear reference to the fact that he likes to get popped-up every Saturday night in Tunstall. ;D ;D ;D ;D  |
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Post by tonedepear on Sept 11, 2009 13:15:42 GMT
I'm constantly amazed at how some can find a negative in even the most positive situation. It comes from many years of following Stoke! On this occasion, I reckon TP's now legendary "Good innit" interview shows just how pleased he is to have Tuncay at Stoke. |
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Post by scfcrob on Sept 11, 2009 13:23:54 GMT
Dunner worry - Tuncay will be a regular player in the team in future weeks. Tone is a master of understatement and he won't change any time soon.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2009 13:25:15 GMT
I'm constantly amazed at how some can find a negative in even the most positive situation. It comes from many years of following Stoke! On this occasion, I reckon TP's now legendary "Good innit" interview shows just how pleased he is to have Tuncay at Stoke. Dead Right. supporting Stoke for nearly 40 years you learn not to take anything for granted. I truly hope that TP is lovin' having Tuncay at 'this football club', but sometimes his interviews are ambigious to say the least ('great innit' included), and when you see Cressie warming up to come on ahead of Tuncay (as in Sunderland) it hardly helps in your fight against high blood pressure, i can tell. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 11, 2009 15:23:11 GMT
I can see where Spit is coming from for sure. But remember the same time last year when we panic bought Soares and Tonge. It was clear this was not Pulis' first choice and we have seen how he never gave them a chance. I believe that was Pulis throwing his dummy out of the pram and letting Coates know that he doesnt like having something done over his head.
That being the case I doubt Coates would try another deal without TP's approval. But I do think he is letting Tuncay get the message that he isnt a star player or messiah by keeping him sweating on the bench for the first few games - a tactic which may be genius but is certainly frustating for him and for all us who want to see him strutting his stuff on the pitch asap
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Post by sting on Sept 11, 2009 17:36:06 GMT
This is new territory for TP. He has never before had the luxury of the squad he now has and it will be a big test keeping better players happy when they are not in the starting eleven.
The next few weeks will be a very interesting phase in our evolution. Neither Huth nor Tuncay have come to us to sit on the bench. Neither has Whitehead. Collins may be more tolerant though the reason he left Sunderland was that Bruce couldn't guarantee him a place any longer. TP will have to make some tough decisions. He will certainly need Peter Reid to be the good cop and let some fringe players go to release the inevitable pressure that will build up as players slip further down the pecking order.
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Post by MrMagic on Sept 11, 2009 17:43:38 GMT
"Did TP want Tuncay?" Yes. "Anyone else worried!!!!" No. I'm worried and have been since his name was first mentioned. No one has told me yet even where he will play, because there is no chance that Plan A will be altered to accommodate him. Is he any good at right back (only joking - I think). I'll reserve comment until Christmas, by which time I'm hoping we are sitting mid-table, Tuncay is the biggest hero since Huddy and our team looks settled and exciting. march4 Tuncays best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. As "plan A" is a 4-4-1-1 formation, I'd say he was ideal to fill the first "1" position. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 11, 2009 17:51:34 GMT
I'm worried and have been since his name was first mentioned. No one has told me yet even where he will play, because there is no chance that Plan A will be altered to accommodate him. Is he any good at right back (only joking - I think). I'll reserve comment until Christmas, by which time I'm hoping we are sitting mid-table, Tuncay is the biggest hero since Huddy and our team looks settled and exciting. march4 Tuncays best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. As "plan A" is a 4-4-1-1 formation, I'd say he was ideal to fill the first "1" position. Magic I agree with you entirely that Tuncay's best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. However I can't agree that he will be ideal to fill the first 1 in a Tony Pulis 4-4-1-1, as that position is used for a target man to receive the ball in the air from the long punt from defence. Beattie, Kitson or Sidibe yes, but Tuncay no not ideal at all. |
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Post by MrMagic on Sept 11, 2009 17:54:06 GMT
march4 Tuncays best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. As "plan A" is a 4-4-1-1 formation, I'd say he was ideal to fill the first "1" position. Magic I agree with you entirely that Tuncay's best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. However I can't agree that he will be ideal to fill the first 1 in a Tony Pulis 4-4-1-1, as that position is used for a target man to receive the ball in the air from the long punt from defence. Beattie, Kitson or Sidibe yes, but Tuncay no not ideal at all. 4-4- 1-1 Big man could play ahead of Tuncay with Tuncay linking. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 11, 2009 17:58:17 GMT
Magic I agree with you entirely that Tuncay's best position is behind a main striker linking the midfield to the attack. However I can't agree that he will be ideal to fill the first 1 in a Tony Pulis 4-4-1-1, as that position is used for a target man to receive the ball in the air from the long punt from defence. Beattie, Kitson or Sidibe yes, but Tuncay no not ideal at all. 4-4- 1-1 Big man could play ahead of Tuncay with Tuncay linking. Yeah of couse he could, but that would be different to the Pulis 4-4-1-1 (Plan A) that was being discussed. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 11, 2009 18:13:36 GMT
I'd say he does. Our board is close and doesn't do things like Birmingham (That Espinoza guy), if a player comes into Stoke it will have the Pulis go ahead first.
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Post by lust4life on Sept 11, 2009 18:34:30 GMT
Of course he wanted him......He knows and understands that to evolve as an established premier club then this type of signing is what we need...He does things steadily and will intergrate this type of player into the club....when we next dip into the transfer market we will surely see more of this type of signing....
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Post by MrMagic on Sept 11, 2009 19:02:16 GMT
4-4- 1-1 Big man could play ahead of Tuncay with Tuncay linking. Yeah of couse he could, but that would be different to the Pulis 4-4-1-1 (Plan A) that was being discussed. I'm not entirely sure that it would be that different Paul. It would mean that Fuller would have to be dropped as you'd want a strong forward who could hold the ball and pass back to the oncoming Tuncay / Midfield. I think it is a relatively simple evolution from the style that the rest of the team is used to, and small steps is what we need to develop safely. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2009 19:10:11 GMT
"Did TP want Tuncay?" Yes. "Anyone else worried!!!!" No. I'm worried and have been since his name was first mentioned. No one has told me yet even where he will play, because there is no chance that Plan A will be altered to accommodate him. Is he any good at right back (only joking - I think). I'll reserve comment until Christmas, by which time I'm hoping we are sitting mid-table, Tuncay is the biggest hero since Huddy and our team looks settled and exciting. Isn't your entire basis for being "worried" about Tuncay based entirely on the fact that you, much like Richard Nixon, are suspicious of men with long hair? I think it's pretty safe to say that we wouldn't shell out £5m on a player the manager didn't want. |
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