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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 1, 2009 0:44:04 GMT
It's fasting month for Muslims. I certainly wouldn't want to be running around a football pitch with nowt but a couple of pre-dawn riveta's and a glass of water in my belly. Could this have an affect on team selection come the weekend?
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Post by luke45 on Sept 1, 2009 0:45:00 GMT
Abdy doesn't need food. Food needs him.
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 1, 2009 0:48:47 GMT
This is where hanging on to Parkin could have proved to be invaluable....
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 0:57:22 GMT
The fasting is from sun rise to sun set. Most of the Muslims I know break fast after sun set with a bloody big meal - I think I've read a few times that calorific intake actually increases during Ramadan because the break fast meals are s' big.
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Post by Linx on Sept 1, 2009 1:10:03 GMT
Did it affect us last year?
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 2:55:06 GMT
No but to be a Stokie even when things seem to be going well you have to create some rumour or falsehood or theory for everyone to werrit themselves over.
I might start a rumour about the earth's magnetic field causing problems for our foreign signings if they have to cross the equator.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 1, 2009 3:06:38 GMT
The fasting is from sun rise to sun set. Most of the Muslims I know break fast after sun set with a bloody big meal - I think I've read a few times that calorific intake actually increases during Ramadan because the break fast meals are s' big. Not to mention the massive meal before the sun comes up an' all. Interesting point though. How many of our players are muslim? Tuncay is I think. Mama is, Abdy is. How many will be observing the fast?
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 3:12:30 GMT
I dunno - how many of the jews refuse to work on the Sabbath, how many of of the catholics only eat fish on Fridee, how many of the methodists are utterly miserable all of the time?
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 1, 2009 3:15:33 GMT
I dunno - how many of the jews refuse to work on the Sabbath, how many of of the catholics only eat fish on Fridee, how many of the methodists are utterly miserable all of the time? Fair point, not many (to the first two).
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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 1, 2009 3:47:52 GMT
I dunno - how many of the jews refuse to work on the Sabbath, how many of of the catholics only eat fish on Fridee, how many of the methodists are utterly miserable all of the time? It came to mind because one of the top ARL players en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazem_El_Masri is fasting and there was speculation if it would impede on his game if the weather was hot - no fluid intake. I recall one of the Aussie rules teams appealing to play on Sunday's (not Saturday) because of Orthodox Jewish ownership. I wonder if this is why Man U have so many Sunday games - though this is likely driven by the media. Traditionally there was no Sunday football because of Christian beliefs regarding the day of rest.
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Sept 1, 2009 4:02:48 GMT
In a word no...
Islam allows you to save up your fasting days for another time of the year if need be...
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 1, 2009 4:09:15 GMT
In a word no... Islam allows you to save up your fasting days for another time of the year if need be... Depends how strict you are with the "if need be" part though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 6:32:57 GMT
No but to be a Stokie even when things seem to be going well you have to create some rumour or falsehood or theory for everyone to werrit themselves over. I might start a rumour about the earth's magnetic field causing problems for our foreign signings if they have to cross the equator. ;D
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Post by Ghostface on Sept 1, 2009 6:35:34 GMT
In a word no... Islam allows you to save up your fasting days for another time of the year if need be... Was discussing the exact topic of this thread with a colleague yesterday, and exactly the same conclusion was met
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 6:37:00 GMT
What's all this Ramadan Ding Dong?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 1, 2009 6:42:17 GMT
It came to mind because one of the top ARL players en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazem_El_Masri is fasting and there was speculation if it would impede on his game if the weather was hot - no fluid intake. I didn't realise the fast included no fluid intake. That must be dangerous in hot climates.
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Post by Ghostface on Sept 1, 2009 6:49:07 GMT
The other thing to add is that Ramadan started a week last Saturday, and Abdoulaye played both at Blues and against Sunderland, as well as Tuncay coming off the bench. (that is, presuming that they are both of muslim faith)
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Sept 1, 2009 6:54:00 GMT
It came to mind because one of the top ARL players en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazem_El_Masri is fasting and there was speculation if it would impede on his game if the weather was hot - no fluid intake. I didn't realise the fast included no fluid intake. That must be dangerous in hot climates. last time ramadam was in the summer months over here pepole were passing out and falling to their deaths off building sites... i actually quite like ramadam, obviously i dont fast, but its a great time of year if you have local friends etc.. a bit like a month long christmas
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 7:00:36 GMT
In a word no... Islam allows you to save up your fasting days for another time of the year if need be... Was discussing the exact topic of this thread with a colleague yesterday, and exactly the same conclusion was met So as long as we don't have a good cup run we'll be OK? You realise during Sawm muslims can't have sex either? That might be a problem too - playing football on a full bollox - is that good? Incidentally those exempt from fasting include the insane and travellers - well football involves travelling so there is a get out clause straight away. As Allah himself says when munching down on some chilli fries: 'But if anyone is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period should be made up by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put you to difficulties.' So there you go - Allah would not wan t to put Pulis (and by inclusion the Club and the supporters) into difficulties. And what could be more difficult to stomach than a defeat due to tummy grumbles? Also you are not allowed to self pleasure yourself during the fasting period. I know there are a few people who will find that a very difficult requirement - if you do that you have to feed 60 poor people an average meal each - I kid you not.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 1, 2009 7:07:49 GMT
Was discussing the exact topic of this thread with a colleague yesterday, and exactly the same conclusion was met So as long as we don't have a good cup run we'll be OK? You realise during Sawm muslims can't have sex either? That might be a problem too - playing football on a full bollox - is that good? Also you are not allowed to self pleasure yourself during the fasting period. I know there are a few people who will find that a very difficult requirement - if you do that you have to feed 60 poor people an average meal each - I kid you not. I bet Abdy runs a soup kitchen for thousands of poor Stokies during Ramadan! I bet Liam helps out as well! ;D
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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 1, 2009 7:10:03 GMT
if you do that you have to feed 60 poor people an average meal each - I kid you not. If Salif, Aby, Amdy and Tuncers are dishing out fish suppers in Trent Vale next week, you know they have failed to be masters of their own domain.
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Post by Northy on Sept 1, 2009 7:30:06 GMT
Hope not, I've got "eastern Spice" sponsoring my lds team this season, they are all looking forward to cheap after match take away's ;D
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Post by Widget123 on Sept 1, 2009 9:18:28 GMT
So as long as we don't have a good cup run we'll be OK? You realise during Sawm muslims can't have sex either? That might be a problem too - playing football on a full bollox - is that good? Also you are not allowed to self pleasure yourself during the fasting period. I know there are a few people who will find that a very difficult requirement - if you do that you have to feed 60 poor people an average meal each - I kid you not. I bet Abdy runs a soup kitchen for thousands of poor Stokies during Ramadan! I bet Liam helps out as well! ;D you could be onto something here - do you know any one who's observing Ramadan but is a kind soul who happens to work in a soup kitchen for a charity most of the year? He must be the envy of his friends as well as having a grin across his face! ;D
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Sept 1, 2009 9:22:45 GMT
It's the Catholics and Lent you should be worried about.
Look at poor Martin O'Neill.......obviously has a fair Catholic contingent. Seems the thing they gave up for Lent this year was getting 3 points.
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 1, 2009 9:25:29 GMT
In a word no... Islam allows you to save up your fasting days for another time of the year if need be... I love the "magical" get-out clauses all these religions have ;D
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 1, 2009 9:41:22 GMT
Mama is a muslim, a friend of mine says he sees him at the mosque in Normacot, he sometimes gives some of the kids there free tickets. He's not even training though, so that should be ok. Don't know about any of our other players, are the Senegalese lads likely to be?
Nicolas Anelka said that he used to get niggly injuries during Ramadam, so he respects it but gorges himself daily.
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 9:53:13 GMT
It is also Hungry Ghost month so if we have any Taoists in the squad they are going to want to avoid anything where they might get into trouble with the ghosts running about causing mischief and trouble. To be safe we can burn some joss sticks and make some food / drink offerings - a small shrine by the dug out should suffice.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Sept 1, 2009 9:57:11 GMT
Surely Mumph you should know that Ghost Houses have to be placed outside the premises to stop ghosts from entering-usually by the entrance.
You're obviously a lapsed Taoist
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Post by mumph on Sept 1, 2009 10:07:48 GMT
That's more your Buddhist / Taoist / Thailand shrine innit? We tend to go with the Daoist shrine / fung shui stuff over here more. I prefer the Thai type as they double as luxurious bird tables too ;-)
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Sept 1, 2009 10:12:41 GMT
Was in a pub a few weeks back Mumph where a drunken bird (female not the bird table type) fell on the ghost house and knocked it over outside.
You'd have thought that the Blair Witch was about to be set free the panic it caused :-)
There's a bar in Bangkok called the Biergarten- famous afternoon hangout. The resident rat has a coat like a mink- eating roast chicken and milk offerings from the Ghost House daily.
The locals don't eat as well as him
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