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Post by rambo61 on Aug 22, 2009 19:36:13 GMT
Lots of shite gets spouted on here from people who dont go to away games. So for a cchange ,just for people who attended, how do you feel todday went? Personally Ifelt we totally dominated but never looked like we were going to score. Rorys throws caused havoc but we never really created anything with any quality. Weneed a decent midfielder who can create something with a decent pass. Sidibe would be like a new signing for us so the sooner he comes back the better!
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Post by gloucesterstokie on Aug 22, 2009 19:41:51 GMT
we were very average - poor i think
passing in midfield was awful from both teams
defence ran the shows for both sides..
kitson came on and did well..
higgy, whelan, etherington had a shit game today
very concerned after todays performance birmingham were for the taking.. a created midfielder needs to be bought
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 22, 2009 19:43:48 GMT
At 2pm i would have been happy with a point...at 5pm i was gutted with one.
Birmingham could possibly be the worse Premier side ive seen
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 22, 2009 19:45:18 GMT
Was today your first away game? Every game last season and Liverpool on weds. so whats your point?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 22, 2009 19:45:29 GMT
We were very, very poor today in my opinion. We only ever looked dangerous from throw-ins and did'nt get it to Fullers feet enough. Kitson was too deep for me a lot of the time. Etherington and Whelan were particually poor. We put too much pressure on our defenders due to the fact we can't keep the ball. As soon as it passed to Higginbottom or Wilko the ball is instantly hoofed anywhere.
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Post by stone6 on Aug 22, 2009 19:49:21 GMT
Lots of shite gets spouted on here from people who dont go to away games. So for a cchange ,just for people who attended, how do you feel todday went? Personally Ifelt we totally dominated but never looked like we were going to score. Rorys throws caused havoc but we never really created anything with any quality. Weneed a decent midfielder who can create something with a decent pass. Sidibe would be like a new signing for us so the sooner he comes back the better! Sorry i didn't go today. Sorry about not being able to make today Rambo but i do have a season ticket and i do go to as many away games as i can afford. Have you been to every away game for the last 10 years? If so i totally commend you, if like i think you haven't don't come on here bigging yourself up cos you've made a 50 mile trip down the M6. Not everyone can go to every game
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Post by tony harrison on Aug 22, 2009 19:50:25 GMT
At 2pm i would have been happy with a point...at 5pm i was gutted with one. Birmingham could possibly be the worse Premier side ive seen I felt the same leaving the ground today as leaving Chelsea last season. 1 point against such a poor side was that bad. Many teams will go to Birmingham and come away with 3 points this season on that evidence.
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Post by 5ManBack4 on Aug 22, 2009 19:50:55 GMT
Defence- solid Shawcross oozed class,thought wilko played well too and is making right back spot his own.
Midfield- lacking ANY creativity not helped by the tactics of totally ignoring it.
Upfront- Fuller frustating and brilliant at times had our best chances and there centre halves panicked every time he ran at them,but he needs to take more chances.kitson looks full of confidence and also a handfull.
we need-Partner with pace for fuller,a midfielder who will take control of the midfield and spot a through ball.
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 22, 2009 19:55:00 GMT
Lots of shite gets spouted on here from people who dont go to away games. So for a cchange ,just for people who attended, how do you feel todday went? Personally Ifelt we totally dominated but never looked like we were going to score. Rorys throws caused havoc but we never really created anything with any quality. Weneed a decent midfielder who can create something with a decent pass. Sidibe would be like a new signing for us so the sooner he comes back the better! Sorry i didn't go today. Sorry about not being able to make today Rambo but i do have a season ticket and i do go to as many away games as i can afford. Have you been to every away game for the last 10 years? If so i totally commend you, if like i think you haven't don't come on here bigging yourself up cos you've made a 50 mile trip down the M6. Not everyone can go to every game The question was intended to find out how people who went felt about the performance as opposed to the moaners who listen to the radio ,sky,etc. If you want to take offence carry on!!
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 22, 2009 19:56:49 GMT
That Midfield needs a rocket up it!
Shawcross...Class. Sorro...great save.
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Post by Stokie-Jiggz on Aug 22, 2009 19:57:18 GMT
We were very, very poor today in my opinion. We only ever looked dangerous from throw-ins and did'nt get it to Fullers feet enough. Kitson was too deep for me a lot of the time. Etherington and Whelan were particually poor. We put too much pressure on our defenders due to the fact we can't keep the ball. As soon as it passed to Higginbottom or Wilko the ball is instantly hoofed anywhere. Totally agree mate. We can't put a sequence of passes together without hoofing or stupidly giving the ball away like putting it out for a throw when not going to feet. Both fullbacks, especially Higgi just continued to hoof and with Johnson at the back for Brum, we were getting no where! We also need more pressure when teams attack us. The centre of midfield seem to sit back to deep and invite pressure on from the midfield which is often the cause of us getting dominated within the centre of the pitch. A new playmaker, central midfielder is needed to gain control and help to push forward. A right back and maybe left back to put pressure on the current two to try and play the ball to feet more often and stop the problems down the wings.
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2009 19:58:06 GMT
Lots of shite gets spouted on here from people who dont go to away games. So for a cchange ,just for people who attended, how do you feel todday went? Personally Ifelt we totally dominated but never looked like we were going to score. Rorys throws caused havoc but we never really created anything with any quality. Weneed a decent midfielder who can create something with a decent pass. Sidibe would be like a new signing for us so the sooner he comes back the better! That is exactly how I would sum up the game.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 22, 2009 20:00:02 GMT
LEDLEY! LEDLEY!
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Post by s8to on Aug 22, 2009 20:01:02 GMT
At 2pm i would have been happy with a point...at 5pm i was gutted with one. Birmingham could possibly be the worse Premier side ive seen Yes totally agree the longer the game went the more I could see them nicking a winner tho, we lost our shape completely... Other than that we outsung them all day.. WTF.. Worse home singing performance I have seen in a long time!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2009 20:01:07 GMT
I was there in the home seats with a Brummie mate (I get my own back later in the season at The Brit). Their fans had it about right. They cannot see where their goals are going to come from this season and most thought our extra year in the Premiership showed, we looked very dangerous and I really thought it was going to be a win today.
In general I thought Brum looked a bit nervous in defence and not strong enough in attack. We looked a little bit short of sharpness in attack but quite solid in defence - Fuller looks very up for it. If he can get a goal while he is in this mood, I think he will go on a good scoring run. The midfield was a bit out of sorts. Lawrence was good, Etherington looks a bit distracted, Delap is okay, didn't let anyone down. I think we have learnt from last year. Particularly I was pleased to see that we have become more than a set-play team, most of our chances came from open play.
A lot of stuff went long from our full-backs but the forwards did a reasonable job of getting on the end of it. I can see why TP wanted to get Scholes or Murphy in. Shawcross particularly needed a better outlet. Much of the time he was cutting out stuff, playing it to the midfield who played it to the full backs who hoofed it long. A creative attacking midfielder could have moved it forward faster and more accurately and turned that match into a big victory for us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2009 20:01:09 GMT
Defo lacking in midfield as we are all aware and never looked like we`d score. Kitson looked lively and bagging a goal will do him the world of good. Perhaps its his moment to grab the limelight if Beats is out for a few games.
At the end of the game I felt we should have come away with three points but on reflection maybe a point is fair.
Three games gone, four points in the bag. Things could be worse I suppose but we badly need to freshen things up somewhat. We do tend to look a little `stale` at times.
PS great idea to set up a thread for those that were there. Can we have a site and radio phone in show aswell !!!
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Post by buddha on Aug 22, 2009 20:02:52 GMT
not everyone who didnt go is a moaner , dont tar everyone with the same brush . and before you start i did go . i would never start a thread making out those who didnt go are less of a stokie than those who did theres loads of reasons why people cant go every game like the perfect stokie that is you . ;D
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 22, 2009 20:21:24 GMT
We played three central midfielders today, only one of them produced a decent performance. The other two were absolutely dire. Delap was excellent at what he did, but Whitehead and Whelan were absolutely abysmal. They were real games from hell for them. That left us with no creativity and no legs going forward in midfield. A crying shame, because we could have won today. Stephen Carr was the worst of an awful side.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 22, 2009 20:23:58 GMT
If you have to announce your attendance at an away game, start a new thread called 'Just Back'.
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Post by stokie25 on Aug 22, 2009 20:32:25 GMT
Can I just 'gate crash' here I didn't go, but why is my high quality stream not acceptable for me giving my opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2009 20:33:58 GMT
not everyone who didnt go is a moaner , dont tar everyone with the same brush . and before you start i did go . i would never start a thread making out those who didnt go are less of a stokie than those who did theres loads of reasons why people cant go every game like the perfect stokie that is you . ;D I dont go to every away game mate, those days are long gone im afraid, but I wouldnt make a comment on a game I didnt see and certainly wouldnt ring a radio station. Everyone has their own opinions, thats what makes football a great game and gives endless discussions. I will always listen to anyone who was at a game, even if their views differ from mine, and respect their views. How many times have we seen great games and performances where the result didnt reflect the game at all? What often looks like a boring 0-0 result can indeed turn out to have been an epic battle of wits,skill and tactics. How many games have we won 2 or 3 nil and in all honesty weve been crap ? Forming a view of a game on a result alone is crazy. Not everyone can be at every game, but you cant possibly give a balanced and informed view if you havnt seen it with your own eyes. Yes, you can give your views on a whole host of things,tactics, team selection etc but you cant honestly comment on a match you werent at. I wasnt at Liverpool so what do I know about that particular match ? Nothing, as I wasnt there. Neither does that make you, me or anyone else less of a fan. We all have commitments that can keep us away for whatever reason but we are all Stoke at heart and want the best for our club
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Post by JimmyisGod on Aug 22, 2009 20:49:46 GMT
Thought Shawcross today was outstanding - in both halves of the pitch. He looked our main threat from set pieces and Rory's throws - which were excellent and caused them problems esp the first half.
The real problems for me are at full back. Because our full backs don't get forward and support Liam and Ethers, we have no pace down the flanks, no overlapping fullbacks, so no crosses into the box with their defence on the back foot. Just hoofball.
This would be priority no. 1 in getting new blood in - far more important than centerhalves or forwards.
Whelan was unbelievably bad first half - just had one of those nightmare afternoons. Rory was excellent, covered the pitch and tried to make things happen. Kitson was a waste of space - no threat, no effort, no likelyhood of scoring.
And yes I did go.
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Post by Linx on Aug 22, 2009 21:37:15 GMT
We missed a big opportunity to get a precious away win early in the season. Birmingham were crap and I think they'll struggle. I don't know whether it was the acoustics, but their fans were surprisingly quiet. It was more like a home game with Stokies dominating the stadium noise.
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Post by danmase on Aug 22, 2009 21:40:14 GMT
Lots of shite gets spouted on here from people who dont go to away games. So for a cchange ,just for people who attended, how do you feel todday went? Personally Ifelt we totally dominated but never looked like we were going to score. Rorys throws caused havoc but we never really created anything with any quality. Weneed a decent midfielder who can create something with a decent pass. Sidibe would be like a new signing for us so the sooner he comes back the better! Pretty much spot on
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 22, 2009 21:41:50 GMT
Sorry i didn't go today. Sorry about not being able to make today Rambo but i do have a season ticket and i do go to as many away games as i can afford. Have you been to every away game for the last 10 years? If so i totally commend you, if like i think you haven't don't come on here bigging yourself up cos you've made a 50 mile trip down the M6. Not everyone can go to every game The question was intended to find out how people who went felt about the performance as opposed to the moaners who listen to the radio ,sky,etc. If you want to take offence carry on!! What about the people who watched 90 mins on the net? Can they not have an opinion?
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Aug 23, 2009 7:48:19 GMT
Poor in most departments for me
Sorro never put a foot wrong and made a stunning save, and for a game in which we looked slightly the more likely to score, he ended up winning us a point
Absolutely flabbergasted with Higgy. I have banged on about his distribution for weeks, but yesterday was even worse
Ethers seems to have lost the ability to go past a man. Had a break first half but ran straight into trouble
Absolutely no quality in midfield today, and the strikers must wonder where any sort of service is coming from
Sitting eighth with two clean sheets out of three, but came away disappointed not to have beaten a very mediocre side
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 23, 2009 9:13:07 GMT
Makes me shudder to think that people think that Sidibe is the answer!
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 23, 2009 9:25:39 GMT
Poor in most departments for me
Sorro never put a foot wrong and made a stunning save, and for a game in which we looked slightly the more likely to score, he ended up winning us a point
Absolutely flabbergasted with Higgy. I have banged on about his distribution for weeks, but yesterday was even worse
Ethers seems to have lost the ability to go past a man. Had a break first half but ran straight into trouble
Absolutely no quality in midfield today, and the strikers must wonder where any sort of service is coming from
Sitting eighth with two clean sheets out of three, but came away disappointed not to have beaten a very mediocre side A up CFG me owd mucker ;D Hows you and your family? Thought Brum were there for the taking yesterday..but we were lacking in the final third of the pitch..no real cutting edge....and I agree totally about Higgy and Ethers...very dissapointing mate In the end I thought they looked more like scoring and Sorro made another brilliant save to keep us in the game.... Should have done better... Lets hope Peter Reid sorts em' out
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 23, 2009 9:27:29 GMT
Yea, that is worrying. We're supposed to be moving forward, not looking backwards.
As for the game, I can only echo the sentiments of the poster who said that they left the ground feeling it was two points lost. We had so much of the ball, so much territorial advantage and Birmingham were so desperately poor that you can't help but be disappointed that we didn't win.
We HAVE got to add some quality to the team. Our season depends on it.
On the plus side, team selection was spot on and there was no question whatsoever that we were going for the win. And a final word for Ryan Shawcross... IMMENSE!
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 23, 2009 9:28:05 GMT
... The question was intended to find out how people who went felt about the performance as opposed to the moaners who listen to the radio ,sky,etc. So, from that ... people who listen to radio or wach Sky etc are moaners? Well, I suppose that if you say so then they must be! Do try and think about how you present things.
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