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Post by stokecityscott on Aug 8, 2009 21:51:51 GMT
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 8, 2009 21:54:54 GMT
Relied on Delap, why do they keep writing thissame shit? The rest is fine but individual reporters really need to do research themselves, Delap (in throwing terms) did pretty much fuck all second half of the season.
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Post by dwr17477 on Aug 8, 2009 22:00:42 GMT
"Stoke are unafraid of anyone or anything". ;D ;D ;D
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Post by stokecityscott on Aug 8, 2009 22:12:18 GMT
We scored from one throw after november (arsenal) , v mboro.
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Post by dwr17477 on Aug 8, 2009 22:20:33 GMT
Yep, very lazy as usual. The Telegraph Fantasy Football League go the same way too, although I think it's a little bit togue in cheek.
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Post by AlliG on Aug 8, 2009 22:31:24 GMT
I like that. ;D
I'd watch Gene Hackman any day over any number of plastic, pretty boy or wooden film stars.
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Post by Mav on Aug 8, 2009 22:35:20 GMT
Surely Bruce Willis would be more fitting? Rugged, heavily muscled, kick the shit of people
Please note - I am NOT Bruce Willis
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Post by droz on Aug 8, 2009 22:40:36 GMT
The Times' sport section is normally very good, and often last season they were quite kind to us. It is always lazy journalism when the 'long ball, long throw' statements come out, though. I do wonder how many games the media actually watch properly.
*I know I'm a pedant, but they've spelt 'preview' wrong in the title of the article.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 8, 2009 22:40:44 GMT
Surely Bruce Willis would be more fitting? Rugged, heavily muscled, kick the shit of people Please note - I am NOT Bruce Willis Oh come on, his real name is Walter. |
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Post by Mav on Aug 8, 2009 22:42:31 GMT
Surely Bruce Willis would be more fitting? Rugged, heavily muscled, kick the shit of people Please note - I am NOT Bruce Willis Oh come on, his real name is Walter. His first name is Walter, Walter Bruce Willis. There was a fat guy on micro machines called walter (mega drive), who looked strangely like Bruce Willis. 12 monkeys, = hull + tango man. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 8, 2009 22:46:55 GMT
Hull are down as:
'If they were a movie star they would be...
Lindsay Lohan Not quite sure who they are, why they’re here or what they’re going to do about it. '
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 8, 2009 23:04:57 GMT
It isn't "lazy journalism" (zzzzzzz)..it's true. We do play very directly and we did rely on Rory's throw at times.
There's nothing wrong with playing to your strengths, and most of the national media acknowledge that, and some even heap praise on us for doing so.
What we musn't do is kid ourselves that the long ball/long throw image is nonsense, because it isn't...throwing a hissy fit every time someone mentions it does us no favours, it just makes us look delusional ala Tony Mowbray and his supposed Samba-football that only existed in his ugly head.
OK, we do occasionally do the odd good passing move, and Fuller sometimes does stuff that most players could only dream of pulling off, but for the vast majority of the time we aim for the channels and make the most of set pieces. That is our game plan, it's not just something that happens now and again...we spend most of the game looking to do it. I can see that...all the journos can see that....because it's true.
We are what we are, an we should admit it and embrace it.
HOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFF it up top Higgy!
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Post by gazXbrum on Aug 9, 2009 8:42:31 GMT
Relied on Delap, why do they keep writing this same shit?. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I say keep the same ole lazy journalism going. If teams are expecting/preparing for the big throws, they might take their eye off our other footballing attibutes. Bit like a boxer been expected throw the big right all the time but who instead does the real damage with the hard cutting jabs  Hope the team continue to develop that punishing jab this term. |
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Post by jeffers on Aug 9, 2009 8:47:43 GMT
I can't see what's so wrong about that preview. To the neutral we are ''Grizzled, unorthodox and strangely watchable''. Our home form is key again, but we will also struggle to match last seasons effort at the Britannia because it was so good.
My prediction is roughly the same as the Times guy, we will pick up enough points to finish around 14th/15th/16th - and I would take that right now! I also think our home and away form won't be so polarised this season.
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Post by burtonstokie on Aug 9, 2009 9:01:06 GMT
Dodgy picture of Tone under the club details!!!!!!!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 9, 2009 9:05:24 GMT
It isn't "lazy journalism" (zzzzzzz)..it's true. We do play very directly and we did rely on Rory's throw at times. There's nothing wrong with playing to your strengths, and most of the national media acknowledge that, and some even heap praise on us for doing so. What we musn't do is kid ourselves that the long ball/long throw image is nonsense, because it isn't...throwing a hissy fit every time someone mentions it does us no favours, it just makes us look delusional ala Tony Mowbray and his supposed Samba-football that only existed in his ugly head. OK, we do occasionally do the odd good passing move, and Fuller sometimes does stuff that most players could only dream of pulling off, but for the vast majority of the time we aim for the channels and make the most of set pieces. That is our game plan, it's not just something that happens now and again...we spend most of the game looking to do it. I can see that...all the journos can see that....because it's true. We are what we are, an we should admit it and embrace it. HOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFF it up top Higgy! TD - if we relied on Rory's throw in the second half of the season then it was a spectacularly unsuccessful tactic as it produced only one goal. How are we to explain that we actually got more points in the second half of the season when (partly due to Rory's shoulder injury) the throw was mainly ineffective? |
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Post by AlliG on Aug 9, 2009 9:28:33 GMT
How many goals we scored from Rory's long throw in the 2nd half of the season is irrelevant to whether it remained one of our main tactics.
Over the season, Rory took 200+ long throws. Whether they produced 1 goal this year (and I would also include Ric's against Bolton) they were used regularly as a means of pushing the opposition back, putting them under pressure and breaking the game up.
For a team that plays a high octane, pressing game, those micro breaks while Rory was drying the ball, waiting for the centre half to arrive etc were an ideal recovery opportunity and one of the reasons why we were able to play flat out for 90 minutes+.
To deny that the long throw is/was a major tactical part of our game is to be as equally one-eyed as the journalists who insist it is our only tactic.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 9, 2009 9:38:54 GMT
I don't deny it was a major tactical part of our game - but in the second half of the season we didn't rely on it and (much to my surprise, I admit) we actually did better in the second half of the season when Rory's shoulder was injured sufficiently for the throw to become mostly ineffective. In the second half of the season we relied on Ethers' crosses, Liam's return to form and BT's goals - pity few commentators have thought this was worth mentioning.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Aug 9, 2009 9:56:06 GMT
 "All right, Popeye's here! get your hands on your heads, get off the bar, and get on the wall!" I like being likened to Hackman |
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Post by actongatestokie on Aug 9, 2009 10:03:23 GMT
We don't rely on the long throw. Its simply a weapon in our armoury that we use. In the second half of the season it became less effective, but we used it to a similar extent that we did in the first half.
Interestingly now more teams are using the long throw. Pedersen at Blackbun being a prime example. Most other teams are using it aswell.
They'll use it just as much as we will. What makes ours stand out is the trajectory of the throw and how dangerous it is. It will be more successful as a result and we'll score more goals directly from them, rather than other teams scoring goals from secondary set pieces and second balls.
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Post by th05 on Aug 9, 2009 10:37:24 GMT
"Stoke are unafraid of anyone or anything". ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Hope the team continue to develop that punishing jab this term. 
