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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 20:20:05 GMT
some short memories around hear i think. was less than 3 months ago when we completly dominated wigan in the last game of the season, wigan a team that finished in the top half!
whats wrong with the players we have? wouldnt u be happy starting the season with soro wilko faye shawcross lawro wealen ethers fuller beats etc, they were good enough last season to give us a chance with 1 game to play of finishing in the top half for fks sake! we only needed to beat the gunners and we hadnt managed that had we before!
WE ONLY PLAYED EM OF THE FKIN PARK AS WE DID WITH UTD SPURS AND FK KNOWS WHO ELSE! GET OFF THERE BACKS!
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Post by stokie25 on Aug 7, 2009 20:22:16 GMT
Might I suggest getting a t-shirt on your avatar, then the glow might not affect me reading your post  |
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Post by tsm on Aug 7, 2009 20:23:21 GMT
There's no F in problem.
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 20:26:53 GMT
i no there aint and you to tsm but theres hundreds on hear moanin there arses off
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 7, 2009 20:28:08 GMT
Not EVERYONE has a problem. Looking forward to the season the same as any other, with equal measures of apprehension and excitement. We'll be alright.
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Aug 7, 2009 20:28:42 GMT
i no there aint and you to tsm but theres hundreds on hear moanin there arses off Get used to it fella ;D |
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 20:30:51 GMT
ive been reading this for weeks but tonight has seriously cheesed me off. 3-0 against burnley should fkin show em! goooaaaarrrrrrrnnnnnnn stoke
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Aug 7, 2009 20:35:14 GMT
ive been reading this for weeks but tonight has seriously cheesed me off. 3-0 against burnley should fkin show em! goooaaaarrrrrrrnnnnnnn stoke Thats the ticket fella. Now your thinking ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 20:41:06 GMT
There are 364 viewing this message board and half of them are miserable glass half empty gits.
20k plus will be there supporting the lads satdee!
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 20:43:25 GMT
i think people are worried that we stand still as a football club as other clubs push on, we should be building on what we did last year, but instead weve spent a pre season trying get unrealistic targets, and injured money grabbing tossers!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 20:45:46 GMT
I think the real deals are to come in the next two weeks, and then some of the real numpties on here who, should have egg all over their faces
just disappear back into the woodwork like the sad cockroaches they really are !
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 20:47:11 GMT
king deano fair enough we should be building but its pointlesswasting money, hows that pro active?
whats ur aim for this season? cause i think if u ask the 27000 they would all say survival and we are plenty strong enough for that.
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 20:52:26 GMT
king deano fair enough we should be building but its pointlesswasting money, hows that pro active? whats ur aim for this season? cause i think if you ask the 27000 they would all say survival and we are plenty strong enough for that. thats just it mate, i aint buying into this 'survival' season. ive said on another thread we finished 12th last year, i fully expect us finish above the 3 promoted sides, plus remain ahead of the likes of bolton, blackburn, pompey, and hull, instead of looking at 17th we should be aiming to emulate last season, and if possible finish 11th! but were standing still, this coming season we aint a suprise package anymore, rorys throw possibly wont have the same impact, the atmosphere wont be new to teams, managers will do their homework and realise if we dont throw the ball into the box our only other plan is twat it over the top to fuller!!! we need new players, so we can change personnell and tactics if need be |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 20:55:27 GMT
When did we last score from a throw?
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 20:56:00 GMT
preston last week!
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:02:01 GMT
i disagree totally.how many goals in the second half of the season came from delap? and im sure if u check out stokes form in the last 18 games of the season they were a top ten team, the same team we have now, non of these teams have figured us out. they had 30 games to figure us out yet stoke still finished the season as strong as any of the top 6 teams in the league!
as for the throw in let me just tell you a little fact. 1 in every 54 corners as an avarage results in a goal. i think ud agree that rorys throws are equivalent to a corner. my point been that just the very fact of stoke getting the ball in the box will result in goals regardless. it will never be figured out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 21:04:16 GMT
 am just asking cus I think the prem sussed it out - can't Recall the last one but it was probably in April |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 21:06:47 GMT
28 goals scored in the premeirship direct from long throws last season.
9 were for stoke city (according to SSN)
and plenty of other teams seem to adopt the tactic also -I recall
pretty effective if done properly
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 21:06:57 GMT
youve just contradicted yourself then aint ya? your saying we didnt score many in the 2nd half of the season but getting the ball in the box off throws will result in goals! it got figured out easy enough, and if i was a manager id deal with it because you tell your keeper get out and claim it! block ryan shawcross off and job done! we need more than throwing a ball, imo he doesnt offer much else as it is. but back to the original post, we need signings, and quick, you stand still in this league and you get found out, at the moment were standing still! signings have to come
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 21:10:35 GMT
we've signed 5 players since early January 2009
I'm not looking for a row but, could someone explain to me how that's standing still ?
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:11:05 GMT
ok back to the original post. apart from delap who u clearly dont want in the team, which of the first 11 first choice players wuld u replace?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 21:11:53 GMT
ME ? - confused now
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:16:57 GMT
no not u mate, fergie there(kingdeano) who has just figured out how to defend rorys throws in 2 minutes. 9 months 9 goals and he's just cracked it in 2 mins!
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 21:17:20 GMT
ok back to the original post. apart from delap who you clearly dont want in the team, which of the first 11 first choice players wuld you replace? only probably 3 out the starting 11, wilko, higgy and delap, im not saying mass changes but look at the bench. if fuller gets injured were left with fucking cresswell! if whelan or whitehead are injured weve got diao! if faye or shawcross weve got sonko!! im sorry they aint good enough, a left back would mean danny could be great cover at both left back and centre half. another midfielder would mean having the likes of whelan whitehead and a.n other fighting for their place, and another nippy striker would give us something other than ric, without him we may aswell put a wheelie bin up front, theyre more mobile! |
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 21:18:09 GMT
no not you mate, fergie there(kingdeano) who has just figured out how to defend rorys throws in 2 minutes. 9 months 9 goals and he's just cracked it in 2 mins! you dont need be fergie, its called commom sense, but unless youve never played you wouldnt know |
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:22:41 GMT
kitson looks a different player for a start and arnt you forgetting mama. he scored very important goals last season. and to compare beatie as a wheelie bin is a bit harsh, which is what your last coment amounts to.
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 7, 2009 21:25:42 GMT
kitson looks a different player for a start and arnt you forgetting mama. he scored very important goals last season. and to compare beatie as a wheelie bin is a bit harsh, which is what your last coment amounts to. you seen beattie sprint past anyone? or use trickey and skill to go past a man? fuller is the only player in that team that can weave magic, take him out and that forward line would be very ordinary, kitson as looked sharp in pre season yes, but how many goals as he scored in the league again? mama i agree as been a loss but again he needs someone play off, we need a alternative to ric, someone with pace, kitson mama and beattie have about as much pace as pottermus |
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:26:40 GMT
thats like saying you shudnt consede off a corner, ever! one on the front post one on the back and just tell the keeper to come and get it! how easy is that. corners have been around longer than delap, and know ones figured them out. whats the difference?
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Post by stokieian on Aug 7, 2009 21:31:25 GMT
beatie doesnt need pace, he is a clever footballer and he gains his extra yard by using his head and getting into good positions. when we needed goals last season bet you were glad of the carthorse then wernt you. ric scored 8 prem goals last season, not sure how many beats had but with half as many starts he wasnt far off him.
kitson aint scored but he deserves his chance still.
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Post by btforengland on Aug 7, 2009 21:33:46 GMT
This week it's beginning to annoy me the amount of moaners. I think we have enough to stay up, our squad is pretty decent, just needs a bit more depth because our cover in several areas is poor.
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