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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 5:55:58 GMT
A bit of news for you all and my first transfer posting of the Summer.
As it stands at present, rumour has it that 5 players have taken and passed medicals at Stoke with transfer fees and personal terms agreed with both club and players.
2 of these players have reportedly signed for other clubs abroad, leaving 3 on the boil so to speak.
Allegedly, transfers and they way that they are conducted are changing with players in discussions with numerous clubs, medicals being taken, with the player then going away and taking time to make the decision.
We are not alone in chasing the remaining 3 players by all accounts and are simply awaiting final decision from the players as to whether they want to join us or not.
Another long and laborious summer of inactivity, followed by last minute signings awaits us by the look of it!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 21, 2009 6:08:37 GMT
I can't help noticing the similarity in names - are you related to Dave's Views? ;D
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 6:15:00 GMT
Not that I know of Forny!
I don't really come on here during the summer due to most of the bullshit rumours and stuff that are posted.
I haven't really kept track of Davesviews post, but my mate keeps me updated of the latest goings on in relation to his thread.
I tend to take most things with a "pinch of salt" as for the most part it is pure speculation.
I have a very good contact re Stoke, but rarely, if ever, does he divulge names until it is almost certain that a deal is done. I was told of the Mbia discussions, but was told that he was more likely to sign for Everton or Marseille than us.
Of the 5 players, Mbia and Cisse are the two to have gone elsewhere and Whitehead is one of the other 3. The names of the other 2 haven't been divulged but I have a fair idea as to who the players are based on the discussions that we had.
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Post by mcf on Jul 21, 2009 6:17:26 GMT
I took your Pulis opinions with a 'pinch of salt'
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 6:58:52 GMT
MCF - What Pulis opinions?
I have never had a bad word to say about the bloke! ;D
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 21, 2009 7:10:28 GMT
Im choosing to not believe stuff that is posted on here now, call me what you want, Im being far from negative, but the amount of posts that have shown up here with people "In the Know" but not letting on the names leads me to believe that possibly they know as much about the whole dealings situation as we do.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 7:18:29 GMT
I know nowt Dan, hence confirming that 5 players have had medicals and 2 have signed elsewhere.
Cisse and Mbia are the 2 that have signed elsewhere, Whitehead is a third and the other 2 I wasn't informed of, and if I mentioned who I think they are, it would be pure speculation on my part, hence no names mentioned.
Make of it what you will, but the main point is that this summer will be no different to any other. We will take a "slowly slowly catchey Monkey" approach to our transfer dealings.
TP has earned the right to conduct his business how he wants to, and we just have to stay patient. I am not worried in the slightest about next season, and will only worry if we are in this position come September 1st!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2009 7:22:12 GMT
Mbia-Whitehead in one swoop
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 7:23:33 GMT
Bit of a difference in quality between the two eh Bayern?
Reading between the lines, it seems that we really want to sign quality players, but the same quality players seem reluctant to join us at this stage.
I may be wrong, but that seems to be the case.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2009 7:26:16 GMT
Slightly! All very, very strange this Whitehead business imo.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 21, 2009 7:28:13 GMT
I think ive already accepted that this is gonna be another summer of typical Stoke-esque transfer activity. Im fully prepared for it also. If there are some genuine people on here "In the Know" then I apologise to them, but it is starting to sound the same on here a little now with some people saying that players will sign that very week.....
And here we are. I'm used to this though, so Im not moaning. Just wish people would stop teasing the others that maybe a little more gullible than others, and thats no personal attack on you davejohnno1.
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Post by stokie25 on Jul 21, 2009 7:33:37 GMT
I think ive already accepted that this is gonna be another summer of typical Stoke-esque transfer activity. Im fully prepared for it also. If there are some genuine people on here "In the Know" then I apologise to them, but it is starting to sound the same on here a little now with some people saying that players will sign that very week..... And here we are. I'm used to this though, so Im not moaning. Just wish people would stop teasing the others that maybe a little more gullible than others, and thats no personal attack on you davejohnno1. Good post dan! In addition, it's worth noting that we are probably privy to TOO MUCH information, hence the disappointment and sceptisism when things don't materialise. I genuinely believe that some posters have information, but i also believe that things are constantly changing which doesn't help their credibility when they are later quoted in when deals fall through, ie "things are getting busy now". They probably were but the constant updates of developments, and the twists and turns of the transfer window just serve to frustrate.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2009 7:34:10 GMT
Bayern - Agreed on Whitehead...it is all very strange. However, and these are not my words...nothing is easy when Scholes is involved.
Perhaps Whitehead will sign when Pulis and the team return from Austria. With the comments of Lenny over the weekend, I think we can be 100% certain that this is one deal that is definitely done or almost done. He has certainly completed his medical and personal terms, I am told, are all but agreed.
DAN - No intention to tease from me mate, though I know you are not insinuating that there is. Simply posting the first bit of genuine news that I have heard this summer. The main message being that signing quality players is not easy as they seem to be hanging around for the best offer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2009 7:37:02 GMT
I have no doubt we will sign Whitehead at all. Scholes really isn't liked within the club is he? Whenever I hear reports about him from within side the club its all the same scathing words. Maybe Momo has a point?
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Post by GeordieDave on Jul 21, 2009 8:34:24 GMT
I can vouch for Dave, not that I need to. His post will be based on fact and will, literally, be straight from the horses mouth. His "contact"is inside the inner inner ring of the inner inner circle. Its a shame some of the other members of this board dont post based on fact, rather than what they've dreamt the night before.
And his comment about Scholes is also true. Until a few months ago an old Uni friend of mine was CEO of Sunderland. He was/is a model of professionalism and never told me anything about ins and outs, even when we were signing players from them almost on a weekly basis. He was an accountant by training and had the very highest level of professional integrity and respected the confidentiality of all done deals. When all said and done we wouldnt like it if the FD/CEO of the company we worked for told every Tom, Dick and Harry what we earned would we? One thing my mate did tell me was that Scholes was "difficult". He did not necessarily mean this in a negative way, he said he was just very demanding. A stickler for detail, a tough negotiator and always looking for the best deal for Stoke which conversely is not always the best deal for the selling club.
Whilst it is easy to criticise Scholes I can imagine he has saved St Peter millions of pounds this last few years. Especially in the current climate of inflated fees/wages. And whilst that frustrates the hell out of me, when viewed maturely and rationally, that can only be a good thing for SCFC and all who sail in her. Just imagine, we could have chuffin Risdale at the helm.....the easiest way of looking at it is that its an "extra" player isnt it, as Coates seems in it for love rather than a fast buck this time round.
Whilst I wish we'd be a bit more "aggressive" in the market to appease my insatiable desire for signings in the cold light of day I'd much rather have a healthy club than no club or a club like Swindon, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Southampton, Barnsley, Norwich or Charlton.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Jul 21, 2009 8:54:22 GMT
Im choosing to not believe stuff that is posted on here now, call me what you want, Im being far from negative, but the amount of posts that have shown up here with people "In the Know" but not letting on the names leads me to believe that possibly they know as much about the whole dealings situation as we do. Im with you dan ;D
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Post by eddyclamp on Jul 21, 2009 9:16:58 GMT
I can vouch for Dave, not that I need to. His post will be based on fact and will, literally, be straight from the horses mouth. His "contact"is inside the inner inner ring of the inner inner circle. Its a shame some of the other members of this board dont post based on fact, rather than what they've dreamt the night before. And his comment about Scholes is also true. Until a few months ago an old Uni friend of mine was CEO of Sunderland. He was/is a model of professionalism and never told me anything about ins and outs, even when we were signing players from them almost on a weekly basis. He was an accountant by training and had the very highest level of professional integrity and respected the confidentiality of all done deals. When all said and done we wouldnt like it if the FD/CEO of the company we worked for told every Tom, Dick and Harry what we earned would we? One thing my mate did tell me was that Scholes was "difficult". He did not necessarily mean this in a negative way, he said he was just very demanding. A stickler for detail, a tough negotiator and always looking for the best deal for Stoke which conversely is not always the best deal for the selling club. Whilst it is easy to criticise Scholes I can imagine he has saved St Peter millions of pounds this last few years. Especially in the current climate of inflated fees/wages. And whilst that frustrates the hell out of me, when viewed maturely and rationally, that can only be a good thing for SCFC and all who sail in her. Just imagine, we could have chuffin Risdale at the helm.....the easiest way of looking at it is that its an "extra" player isnt it, as Coates seems in it for love rather than a fast buck this time round. Whilst I wish we'd be a bit more "aggressive" in the market to appease my insatiable desire for signings in the cold light of day I'd much rather have a healthy club than no club or a club like Swindon, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Southampton, Barnsley, Norwich or Charlton. I agree Geordie,I think we are one of the best run clubs in the league.(tin hat at the ready)
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Post by doitforfrank on Jul 21, 2009 9:39:53 GMT
At last, a thread with some common sense.
Whatever is going on at the club, we need to trust those pulling the strings, theyve got the club where it is today, probably much quicker than even they expected, and now they have got to learn the ways of the Premier League and mixing it with the big boys of the game.
What we do need IMHO, is a fairly big name signing. While I'd personally be horrified if we spent 12m on Crouch, what it would do, would be to send out a message to football in general that we mean business, and we can compete on and off the field on the biggest stage.
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Post by monkeycat on Jul 21, 2009 9:41:26 GMT
Well of the 3 other players, Whitehead and Ashton will be 2 of them
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Post by march4 on Jul 21, 2009 9:52:00 GMT
Ledley the fifth or have negotiations never reached this point.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jul 21, 2009 10:37:39 GMT
Dave, I agree with you about steering clear of this board during the summer, some fans will be making themselves ill with all the fervent gossip going on. We rarely sign anyone until late July / August time and this year is proving no different. I can totally believe we have agreed terms with a number of players and are awaiting decisions, the power is still with the players and we just have to live with that.
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Post by monkeycat on Jul 21, 2009 10:38:37 GMT
Ledley the fifth or have negotiations never reached this point. As far as I am aware, Ledley has not had a medical
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Post by walrus on Jul 21, 2009 10:40:54 GMT
I'm becomming very doubtful of all the ITK posters, I think the best tactic now is to sit back and see what happens.
I still have a bit of faith in Monkeycat though.
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Post by Homzy on Jul 21, 2009 10:42:29 GMT
I'm quite happy to back davejohnno up on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 10:46:49 GMT
I’m quite happy to back Homzy up too.
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Post by infullerwetrust on Jul 21, 2009 10:47:42 GMT
heard anything re Ashton MC/Homzy last night dave said that the deal almost collapsed last week?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 21, 2009 10:48:01 GMT
Two quick things. This thread has already been more illuminating than that 1000 page bucket of arse gravy elsewhere on the board and secondly if Scholes has saved the club a few quid over the years by playing hardball in negotiations, he has pissed 10 times that up the wall with piss poor merchandise, an abysmally managed club shop, a dreadful corporate offering and a ticketing system that would shame a circus. One of the best run clubs in the league?! I doubt we're the best run club on Trentham Lakes.
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Post by scfcrob on Jul 21, 2009 10:48:14 GMT
The other two aren't Lund & Marshall - the two lads from Crewe are they?
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Post by Beatties Side Boob on Jul 21, 2009 11:08:40 GMT
Zigic Bikey Whitehead Ashton
How much truth bullshit is linked with any of those above. I still find it hard to believe not one club has put an offer in for Tuncay.
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Post by GeordieDave on Jul 21, 2009 11:11:43 GMT
Two quick things. This thread has already been more illuminating than that 1000 page bucket of arse gravy elsewhere on the board and secondly if Scholes has saved the club a few quid over the years by playing hardball in negotiations, he has pissed 10 times that up the wall with piss poor merchandise, an abysmally managed club shop, a dreadful corporate offering and a ticketing system that would shame a circus. One of the best run clubs in the league?! I doubt we're the best run club on Trentham Lakes. Brilliant. That made me laugh out loud. You're not wrong either. We are very much a "one step forwards, two back" kind of club. Intentionally or unintentionally. Although for the record and in the clubs defence I have never ever had any problems with the ticket office, only ever found them helpful. Neither have my parents, both ST holders nor any of my mates. Although the telephony system could do with bringing into the 21st century. And the replica shirts I've owned, at least one a season, for the last 35 years, have all lasted really well. The black Puma away shirt from a few seasons ago would still pass as mint and could be re-sold as new and has been worn literally hundreds of times. The only time Ive had a meal at the club was during the Icelandic regime and that was in the Waddington suite from memory. The food, service and hosting were of five-star standard. And I have a mate who regularly watches from a box who cant speak highly enough of the "experience". Mind you he gets in for nowt and gets fed and watered so its hard to complain. Like any club providing a "leisure" service I guess it depends on whether you sample that experience on a good or bad day. I sit next to a Man Utd ST holder at work and he does nowt but moan about them! And sitting amongst a sea of Geordies I imagine there would be a queue a mile long if I asked them to cite examples of on and off the park piss poor management.
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