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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 10, 2009 17:44:17 GMT
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Post by bostedclog on Jul 10, 2009 17:51:37 GMT
Good .let them continue in the nick and see where it gets them.
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Post by rhodesy on Jul 10, 2009 17:52:25 GMT
They've taken it to extremes though.
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Post by torgaustokie on Jul 10, 2009 17:53:09 GMT
What amazes me about this is why certain high profile muslims have not been charged and jailed for for inciting race hate crimes as well under the same laws
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Post by bostedclog on Jul 10, 2009 17:56:45 GMT
What amazes me about this is why certain high profile muslims have not been charged and jailed for for inciting race hate crimes as well under the same laws Link please. |
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Post by pattayapotter on Jul 10, 2009 18:00:51 GMT
The only extremism here is by this oppressive regime. Not saying what he did was right, but prison for this and some of you actually condone it ? I just wish (praise lucifer) you could see whats before you eyes
Nazi Germany reffered to your sort as 'useful idiots'
Blind as bats haha
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 10, 2009 18:01:11 GMT
What amazes me about this is why certain high profile muslims have not been charged and jailed for for inciting race hate crimes as well under the same laws I agree but I guess that's about where you draw the line between treason/terrorism and race hate laws, rightly or wrongly I think Muslim extremists would be done for the former and white supremacists for the latter. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 10, 2009 18:02:09 GMT
What a load of wank. If you go to a certain part of Birmingham (Aston i think) there is a sign painted on a wall saying whites enter at own risk. Imagine stickin one of them up around here. It's been there years but no council or police have tried to remove it. It's not just whites that can be racists!
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Post by rhodesy on Jul 10, 2009 18:04:02 GMT
There's a sign in Birkenhead that was taken down years and years ago from like 1960 saying no blacks allowed in this toilet. It's on display at that toilet as a reminder of what it was like back in the day  |
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Jul 10, 2009 18:10:35 GMT
What amazes me about this is why certain high profile muslims have not been charged and jailed for for inciting race hate crimes as well under the same laws Exactly what I was thinking when I read it |
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Post by bostedclog on Jul 10, 2009 18:19:56 GMT
The only extremism here is by this oppressive regime. Not saying what he did was right, but prison for this and some of you actually condone it ? I just wish (praise lucifer) you could see whats before you eyes Nazi Germany reffered to your sort as 'useful idiots' Blind as bats haha Yes you are right .But they knew what they were doing AND the possible consequences of their actions.They tried to get around it and got caught. But it is another nail in the coffin for civil rights.Racism is a serious crime in my books .But ive had enough of that line of conversation yesterday.Im actually tbh undecided on this one. Sal has anyone on this board ever been suspended or banned for race related issues.? |
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Post by longwait on Jul 10, 2009 18:35:10 GMT
What amazes me about this is why certain high profile muslims have not been charged and jailed for for inciting race hate crimes as well under the same laws Link please.  or isnt that classed as race hate didnt abu hamza stir up race hate ????????? everybody in britain knows the law and the police are more tolerant towards muslims than they are left wing whites, i dont mean yer nick griffins, i mean yer normal joe public. i could go into details, but i arent as i dont need to justidy myself. you asked for a link, why not google muslim race hate and see what it brings up. ive got nowt against you bosted clog , but someone has only got to say something about racism and youre there like a robotic rotweiller defending muslims / asians as if they can do no harm. stop being blinkered and see whites and asian people who incite race hate are as bad as one another.... soon as you saw about the "nothing happens to high profile muslims not getting stiff sentences and your first words are Link serious question, dont muslims do no wrong in your eyes , and do they get preferential treatment? And what are your thoughts about the muslims who rioted in Oldham, Burnley, Bradford, burning cars, shops, st george cross's.? Why should they riot ? this is their country, if we went to pakistan or the likes and rioted we would be beaten, thrown in jail and left to rot. |
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Post by bostedclog on Jul 10, 2009 18:43:04 GMT
Are you stalking me  ;D Yes it should work both ways of course.I think the fact that they did a runner didnt help their case mate.Im not in the mood tonight fella .I have been to India and other far away countries .Another time ill have a conversation about it but not tonight mate.  Peace brother. |
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Post by McLovin on Jul 10, 2009 18:56:27 GMT
the guy on the left looks like Seth Rogen.
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Post by buxtop on Jul 10, 2009 19:11:43 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1966839.stm or isnt that classed as race hate didnt abu hamza stir up race hate ????????? everybody in britain knows the law and the police are more tolerant towards muslims than they are left wing whites, i dont mean yer nick griffins, i mean yer normal joe public. i could go into details, but i arent as i dont need to justidy myself. you asked for a link, why not google muslim race hate and see what it brings up. ive got nowt against you bosted clog , but someone has only got to say something about racism and youre there like a robotic rotweiller defending muslims / asians as if they can do no harm. stop being blinkered and see whites and asian people who incite race hate are as bad as one another.... soon as you saw about the "nothing happens to high profile muslims not getting stiff sentences and your first words are Link serious question, dont muslims do no wrong in your eyes , and do they get preferential treatment? And what are your thoughts about the muslims who rioted in Oldham, Burnley, Bradford, burning cars, shops, st george cross's.? Why should they riot ? this is their country, if we went to pakistan or the likes and rioted we would be beaten, thrown in jail and left to rot. Good post Longwait. |
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Post by beagriestache on Jul 10, 2009 19:21:53 GMT
A lot of this comes down to selective memory - if you're racist towards Asians/blacks, you'll remember when white people are convicted of race crimes but not when Asians or blacks are and vice versa. There are gangs of whites attacking non-whites and gangs of Asians attacking whites. More in common than they hitherto thought |
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Post by longwait on Jul 10, 2009 21:16:32 GMT
Are you stalking me ;D Yes it should work both ways of course.I think the fact that they did a runner didnt help their case mate.Im not in the mood tonight fella .I have been to India and other far away countries .Another time ill have a conversation about it but not tonight mate. Peace brother. psml @ stalking you mate ;D nooooooooo, but i would of staked my home you would of commented on the thread mate. i dont agree with any of it mate, all im going say is surely whats good for one is good for the other. no-one can argue with that . fuck im all outa words. if i drank id get pissed now  peace / kudos back at you have a good un m8 |
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Post by french toast on Jul 11, 2009 0:32:53 GMT
fuck em all man, im white so must be racist..if i twat a coloured bloke and go to court whats the betting it goes down as a racially motivated attack???
even if its because he fucked my wife etc (example)
this country has gone to the dogs, i for one am counting down the days until i can leave, then i can be a honorary australian.
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Post by trebor63 on Jul 11, 2009 10:40:26 GMT
There are countless examples of how white British born people in Britain are being discriminated against because of their colour, how else do you describe 'positive' discrimination?
The top recruitment man of one of our police forces (I forget which area) was on talksport a few months ago and said they were only interested in appointing new officers to 'balance up' the mix of officers and so the people they served were more likely to accept the new officers.
In other words the black and or asian communities wouldn't accept white police! Imagine the shit if that was put the other way round!!
So far as I'm concerned the best man should get the job and if that means 100% asians 100% blacks or 100% whites then sobeit. But the minute the poilice state they ONLY want blacks because they are black then that is racist in a very extreme form.
But our limp wristed pc liberal tosspots that currently govern us are to bloody scared of upsetting the 'minority' groups to dare stand up for the rest of us.
I said on this board about three or four years ago that talking to a very wide cross section of people on a daily basis that more and more people were being driven away from the centre ground parties because they feel like they are second class citizens in their own country and I said more and more people were saying they'd vote bnp.
I have since been proved 100% right and that trickle WILL turn into a tidal wave if the main parties don't wake up and smell the coffee pretty soon.
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Post by serpico on Jul 11, 2009 10:53:32 GMT
A lot of this comes down to selective memory - if you're racist towards Asians/blacks, you'll remember when white people are convicted of race crimes but not when Asians or blacks are and vice versa. There are gangs of whites attacking non-whites and gangs of Asians attacking whites. More in common than they hitherto thought Thats true, it reminds me of a study done a few years ago in which a selection of white people were shown a picture of a white man and a black man for a short few seconds, and in the white mans hand was a knife, but the majority of people when asked who was holding the knife said it was the black guy. I also agree with trebor to a extent, positive discrimination imo is a form of racism, people should be judged on the content of their character and their qualifications for a job and not based on colour of their skin, it's stupid and stirs up unnecessary hate, i don't think one race is more superior to another, so and the balance will happen naturally anyway. |
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Post by mumf14 on Jul 11, 2009 10:58:10 GMT
TREBOR....The point you fail to understand is simply that some of these Blacks and Asians could not, or would not speak to white officers in some instances, and therefore non-white officers are needed.
This is because of mis-trust, hatred, or language barriers.Obviously this does not apply to the majority of ethnic minorities but it does to some.
A better idea might be to stop employing small white female officers who on front are completely incapable of dealing with violent situations.They are a complete liability and can result in dangerous confrontations becoming far wosre.
Women officers should only be used for office and women search roles and other less confrontational situations.
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Post by es on Jul 11, 2009 11:02:40 GMT
bit extreme sal bloody hell
thats different than some jokes or just a comment... this racist bollocks has gone too far...
saying BNP out loud will be racist soon (if not already)
its a pile of shit
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Post by trebor63 on Jul 11, 2009 11:19:20 GMT
TREBOR....The point you fail to understand is simply that some of these Blacks and Asians could not, or would not speak to white officers in some instances, and therefore non-white officers are needed. This is because of mis-trust, hatred, or language barriers.Obviously this does not apply to the majority of ethnic minorities but it does to some. A better idea might be to stop employing small white female officers who on front are completely incapable of dealing with violent situations.They are a complete liability and can result in dangerous confrontations becoming far wosre. Women officers should only be used for office and women search roles and other less confrontational situations. I understand it fully but I still don't agree with racism and positive discrimination IS racist. If blacks and asians don't accept whites as you said 'because of mis-trust, hatred, or language barriers' then frankly why are they living in this country? We can assume Britain was a mainly white country when they or their families chose to come here so why stay in a country where you don't trust its people or speak their language! There may be some white people who don't trust black or Asian officers do you seriously think the police would turn round and say 'only' whites can apply for these areas? The minute you bring colour into the argument about who should have which job that IS racist but when you give the job to the best man for the job, surely thats the best thing. If you argue that a black or asian officer is best man for the job solely because of his colour because most black or asian people won't accept anything other than 'one of their own' then are you accepting that all these people are racists and they are entitled to an entirely different set of rules to the rest of us? If thats what you are saying then you are proving without any doubt multi culturism is not working and can not work. |
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Post by edinburghstokie on Jul 12, 2009 8:41:51 GMT
Women officers should only be used for office and women search roles and other less confrontational situations. SEXIST! |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 12, 2009 10:59:29 GMT
When I worked (on a 6 month contract) for Stoke on Trent City Council...Anti-Racist training was obligatory...so that whitey could understand how racist he/she was....and although I understand the idea/principles behind 'positive-discrimination'..what you inevitably get is a group of people who are not up to the job....And that has happened to some extent within social-services/social-work...Asian men who treat women like shit...working with single-parent families...and radical lesbian feminists who detest men...working in 'family-conciliation'.... And the people who ultimately suffer for this PC approach..are people recieving the service... |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2009 12:08:34 GMT
When I worked (on a 6 month contract) for Stoke on Trent City Council...Anti-Racist training was obligatory...so that whitey could understand how racist he/she was....and although I understand the idea/principles behind 'positive-discrimination'..what you inevitably get is a group of people who are not up to the job....And that has happened to some extent within social-services/social-work...Asian men who treat women like shit...working with single-parent families...and radical lesbian feminists who detest men...working in 'family-conciliation'.... And the people who ultimately suffer for this PC approach..are people recieving the service... Agreed, the wrong sort of positive discrimination does no-one any favours, least of all the people who are given the jobs when not up to them. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2009 12:19:19 GMT
Women officers should only be used for office and women search roles and other less confrontational situations. Quite right, we're far better off powdering our noses and talking about clothes really Ok, certain physical confrontations you're right, I'm hardly going to see off a 14 stone bloke in a fight but some (ok not all ;D) women are a great deal better than men at dealing with crises without making them into confrontations at all, this really isn't being sexist but because women don't get the same kind of testosterone rush we can quite often see the whole of a situation not just the flashpoint and let people talk themselves down without losing too much face... |
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Post by longwait on Jul 12, 2009 12:24:02 GMT
good posts on the "who trusts who" where the police are involved.
Why shouldnt Asian communites trust white policemen and women? The police are here to provide a service, and serve the community.
So if i saw a Black or an Asian policeman and they approached me and i did a runner but they caught me i could turn round and say
"sorry officers but i saw you and it worried me as i dont trust you"
As put, regardless of colour / race / the best person for the job should get the job , and fuck all this non trust, if people dont trust the law thats there problem, no-one elses, i dont for one minute think the police should employ more Asian police to satisfy a minority who do not trust white police.
To me they get enough of their own way as it is .
They chose to live here, so they should live and abide by our rules, if we go to live in other countries we have to abide by their law and rules, and im pretty sure if you approached an Asian police officer in Pakistan and said i dont trust you , i want see more white police officers you would most probably be arrested .
I think the people who govern the country ought to grow a pair of bollocks and tell the people who have no trust , that if you dont like it , lump it because that is all you are getting.
As someone above said its getting a joke and soon you wont be able to mention certain words or you will be put under arrest.
and talking of laws who remembers (im sure it was some of the asian community) that they wanted to bring in their own law , the "sharea" (sp) law, and follow that law instead of ours.
Im not kidding if the government would of passed that it would of been the ultimate piss take.
I have no qualms about a multi cultural community, but while in this country, its this countries laws people abide by.
And what would be nice this coming christmas would be to see angels , jesus, reindeer lights etc , instead of shapes , ffs it supposed to be christs birthday (no im not being all christian) but when the council say you cant have those kind of lights now because of upsetting the asian/islam communites it is a joke.
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Post by bostedclog on Jul 12, 2009 12:32:42 GMT
good posts on the "who trusts who" where the police are involved. Why shouldnt Asian communites trust white policemen and women? The police are here to provide a service, and serve the community. So if i saw a Black or an Asian policeman and they approached me and i did a runner but they caught me i could turn round and say "sorry officers but i saw you and it worried me as i dont trust you" As put, regardless of colour / race / the best person for the job should get the job , and fuck all this non trust, if people dont trust the law thats there problem, no-one elses, i dont for one minute think the police should employ more Asian police to satisfy a minority who do not trust white police. To me they get enough of their own way as it is . They chose to live here, so they should live and abide by our rules, if we go to live in other countries we have to abide by their law and rules, and im pretty sure if you approached an Asian police officer in Pakistan and said i dont trust you , i want see more white police officers you would most probably be arrested . I think the people who govern the country ought to grow a pair of bollocks and tell the people who have no trust , that if you dont like it , lump it because that is all you are getting. As someone above said its getting a joke and soon you wont be able to mention certain words or you will be put under arrest. and talking of laws who remembers (im sure it was some of the asian community) that they wanted to bring in their own law , the "sharea" (sp) law, and follow that law instead of ours. Im not kidding if the government would of passed that it would of been the ultimate piss take. I have no qualms about a multi cultural community, but while in this country, its this countries laws people abide by. And what would be nice this coming christmas would be to see angels , jesus, reindeer lights etc , instead of shapes , ffs it supposed to be christs birthday (no im not being all christian) but when the council say you cant have those kind of lights now because of upsetting the asian/islam communites it is a joke. LW Could you find which councils have banned lights because they may upset the community please. Regarding Sharea law its ridiculous to even think it will come into Britain.It obviously wont.There has been different laws for different people in this country for centuries but no one blinks an eyelid. "Why shouldnt Asian communites trust white policemen and women? The police are here to provide a service, and serve the community." That statement is just so funny . ;D ;D |
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Post by bondygodfatherleek on Jul 12, 2009 13:47:56 GMT
Women officers should only be used for office and women search roles and other less confrontational situations. SEXIST! I thought that Stoke_ed . but I've missed out  , I've just woke up from a brill sleep, got one of those memory foam. Heaven pure Heaven. Anyway sexist |
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