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Post by dewastokie on Jun 2, 2009 17:28:02 GMT
Last night at one of my local pubs, The Bouverie, in Chester I was fortunate to have a long chat to a former Stoke player - Ray Brown.
Apparently, he played with Stanley Matthews and for Stoke from 1949 - 1957 when he got a career ending injury, against Sheffield Wednesday I think.
He is a really nice bloke and it was fascinating chatting to him.
I was just wondering if any of our older fans (I'm only 30!) remember him at all?
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Post by harrysburrow on Jun 2, 2009 17:50:04 GMT
Can't remember this guy mate - but then I'm only 48!
(Thanks for making me feel young, it doesn't happen very often).
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Post by dewastokie on Jun 2, 2009 17:52:55 GMT
He had some incredible stories and said things like, " playing in front of a packed boothen end was an immense experience," it made me feel so proud!!
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 18:03:05 GMT
Was he black ?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 2, 2009 18:24:32 GMT
Yes he was, he worked for Stoke for years did'nt he after retiring from playing football?
Was'nt his name Dougie Brown though?
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 18:27:11 GMT
I was thinking of Roy Brown but he was transferred to Watford.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jun 2, 2009 18:39:25 GMT
Not sure I like the term old Stoke fans.... Shall we say - older Stoke fans  I started watching in the fifties but the name doesn't ring a bell. Do remember Doug brown who had fame in the Potteries at many levels - his daughter lives in BB This player couldn't have known Stan Mathews very long as Stan left circa 1948 and returned in 1963? |
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Jun 2, 2009 18:40:35 GMT
ROY Brown , be Stoke in 1923 played 70 games from sept '46 to april '53 14 goals, he was both a Centre half and Centre forward
as he game through juniors he also played in some wartime games
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Jun 2, 2009 18:43:23 GMT
This player couldn't have known Stan Mathews very long as Stan left circa 1948 and returned in 1963? looking at the encyclopedia of stoke city backs this up, from what i can see they played together just once in league football, however I think they played in war time games together |
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2009 18:45:51 GMT
The Brown brothers were associated with SCFC for many years.
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 18:46:50 GMT
It must be Roy Brown. He was known as " The Brown Bomber ". He played Centre Forward and was a fans favourite. I think he may have been related to Doug Brown who was trainer for years, and later became Lord Mayor twice.
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 19:00:31 GMT
Another interesting fact that I am fairly sure I remember correctly was that the Brown family lived in Vickerage Road, Hartshill. I mentioned who he was transferred to in an earlier post on this thread. I hope I am right even though my brain is old.
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Post by sonofbanks on Jun 2, 2009 19:11:38 GMT
Doug was a top bloke, used to live around the corner from him. Didn't he start Lads'n'Dads ? I'm sure he did....... How many on here used to play in a Lads'n'Dads team, I did , then went on to manage one. How many football league/premier players owe there livelyhood to him. Just think, nothing was in place for kids to play organised football before he set it up. People from all over the country saw and copied his template. A true insperation.
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Post by frogs_carer on Jun 2, 2009 19:15:04 GMT
Yes he was, he worked for Stoke for years did'nt he after retiring from playing football? Was'nt his name Dougie Brown though? Dougie's dead mate |
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Post by sonofbanks on Jun 2, 2009 19:17:21 GMT
Another interesting fact that I am fairly sure I remember correctly was that the Brown family lived in Vickerage Road, Hartshill. I mentioned who he was transferred to in an earlier post on this thread. I hope I am right even though my brain is old.
Dougie used to live in Yoxhall avenue, don't know about Ray, but me old mate Noddy used to live there ;D
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 19:25:37 GMT
I'm on about the late 40's early 50's. Yoxall Ave came later, but a nice family.
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Post by sonofbanks on Jun 2, 2009 19:33:07 GMT
owright, wasn't born till the 60's so did't know that, didn't move very far though, good place Hartshill/Penkhull.
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Post by petrent on Jun 2, 2009 19:34:44 GMT
Roy was a great header of the ball.After his playing days were over he used to stand in the dugout and any injuries to players and he was on the pitch with his magic sponge within seconds.I assume he must have been some sort of physio.
I'm not sure where Roy lived but his brother Doug,founder of the Lads'n'Dads, lived in Hartshill.
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Post by frogs_carer on Jun 2, 2009 19:35:48 GMT
Another interesting fact that I am fairly sure I remember correctly was that the Brown family lived in Vickerage Road, Hartshill. I mentioned who he was transferred to in an earlier post on this thread. I hope I am right even though my brain is old. Dougie used to live in Yoxhall avenue, don't know about Ray, but me old mate Noddy used to live there ;D He was my mates grandad |
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Jun 2, 2009 19:43:31 GMT
Doug was a top bloke, used to live around the corner from him. Didn't he start Lads'n'Dads ? I'm sure he did....... How many on here used to play in a Lads'n'Dads team, I did , then went on to manage one. How many football league/premier players owe there livelyhood to him. Just think, nothing was in place for kids to play organised football before he set it up. People from all over the country saw and copied his template. A true insperation. I know he started the Matchmates Scheme, where the visiting teams would bring coach-loads of schoolkids to play in matches against our kids, then they would have refreshments together at somewhere like the Kings hall or up Keele then they all attended the match. I had some great days as first aider as some of the kids (well quite a lot of them) had never been to a footie match before. We also did an away match one bank holiday at Luton. it was at the time when they had a ban on away fans, but it didn't stop a few getting in and getting thrown out (they still got back in again). I had to go and ask them to move away as they were upsetting the kids day out   It was a good job that I knew them and an even better job that they knew me  ;D |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jun 2, 2009 19:47:16 GMT
Slightly off topic but this thread should draw the likely suspects in, who's our oldest poster (and/or the one who's followed Stoke for longest), if you're prepared to admit it??
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Post by dewastokie on Jun 2, 2009 19:48:44 GMT
I'm pretty sure he was a right half and yes he did mention playing for Stoke before the war...
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Jun 2, 2009 19:53:26 GMT
Slightly off topic but this thread should draw the likely suspects in, who's our oldest poster (and/or the one who's followed Stoke for longest), if you're prepared to admit it?? I admit to folowing Stoke since the late sixty's but I will never grow old. I am still a scoolkid at heart, or as my kids put it: I am sometimes very childish  Whats wrong with climbing trees and sliding down grassy slopes on a carrier bag? Apart from embarrasing my kids that is? I'm only 53 for gods sake.  |
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 19:54:06 GMT
It was Doug that had the bucket and magic sponge. In those days they called them the trainer. I have a feeling he was actually a chiropodist.
Can no-one confirm my earlier thoughts that the family lived in Vicarage Road, Hartshill, and that when Roy left he went to Watford who play at ???????????
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Jun 2, 2009 19:55:54 GMT
It was Doug that had the bucket and magic sponge. In those days they called them the trainer. I have a feeling he was actually a chiropodist. Can no-one confirm my earlier thoughts that the family lived in Vicarage Road, Hartshill, and that when Roy left he went to Watford who play at ??????????? I know (think) he worked in the physio dept at Bucknall hospital. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 2, 2009 20:02:28 GMT
You've obviously got him mixed up with me "FRANKIE BROWN" second wizard of dribble, terror of turf moor!!! |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jun 2, 2009 20:08:05 GMT
The last thing I want to do is hijack this thread for the GDB political debates, but if you want to characterise the anti-BNP arguments in one human being it would be Doug Brown and his contribution to this city.
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Post by foxfield on Jun 2, 2009 20:08:32 GMT
My first match was on 10th feb 1951. FA Cup 5th round. Lost 4-2 to that massive championship club from the North East
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Jun 2, 2009 20:47:17 GMT
The last thing I want to do is hijack this thread for the GDB political debates, but if you want to characterise the anti-BNP arguments in one human being it would be Doug Brown and his contribution to this city. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 2, 2009 21:01:41 GMT
Doug Brown lived in Yoxhall Avenue Hartshill/Penkhull..until he passed away about 6 years ago with Motor Neuron Disease...Doug was Stokes physiotherapist and started Lads'n'dads'..and was Lord Mayor twice...one of the first Black Lord Mayors in the country...
His son Martin played a few times for Stoke in the 1970's...
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;D
Whats wrong with climbing trees and sliding down grassy slopes on a carrier bag? Apart from embarrasing my kids that is? I'm only 53 for gods sake. 
