Reasons for wanting the toon to go down

[Linx]

Until this season, I'd always liked Newcastle - even when they thumped us in Keegan's messianic jizzfest last year. My best mate (and best man) is a Geordie from South Shields who supports them and I've never had a particular reason to wish them ill.

But this season I've been increasingly annoyed by them. I've tried to rationalise it thus:

1. Mike Ashley - he typifies what is bad about football today. A rich man who buys a club he has no affiliation for, knows nowt about football and tries to run it like a poor man's Abramovic. The way that club has been run is shambolic, when you compare it to how 'little clubs' like Stoke are managed at boardroom level. It's quite an achievement to make Freddie Shepherd look good. By further comparison, Sir John Hall looks a candidate for canonisation.
2. Newcastle fans - they love their club. Unfortunately they think that everyone else does too, and their pathetic bleating this season has exposed a sneaking disregard for any other club outside themselves and the Big Four. Their arrogance in the face of diversity is astounding. The number of articles and letters I've read in the media by Newcastle fans justifying their place in the top flight because they are a bigger club than the likes of Stoke (yes - we have been mentioned as a club undeserving of top flight football, along with Hull, Wolves, Birmingham, Sheff Utd, etc.) are too numerous to mention. Their latest (desperate) argument is that they deserve to be there because their boardroom shenanigans provide more entertainment than the likes of 'anodyne' clubs like those mentioned above.
3. Alan Shearer - the self-appointed new messiah. Who the fuck does he think he is? He's never managed or even coached before, yet he deigns to come off his BBC couch and take on hardworking professional managers to show them and the world that any bloody amateur can do what they do for a living, providing they have the heart for it. Redknapp, Pulis, Tango Man and co. have put their lives into football management, taking the rough with the smooth all the way. They have earned their positions through years of hard work on the training pitch and making hard decisions at vital times in vital games. What they don't have is vanity, conceit and self-delusion which, unfortunately, Shearer seems to have by the bucketload.
4. The away end at St James' Park. Nearly killed mesen walking up all those steps at the KK jizzfest last year. Is it deliberate - putting the visiting fans high up out of the way, where they need telescopes to see the game? Is it to enhance further the illusion of black and white adoration every time the team plays or the TV cameras pan around the ground?
5. Dennis Wise - the crafty cockney. I know he's finally gone as part of Ashley's attempts to win over the fans, but what on earth was anyone thinking in appointing him as Director of Football over a former England manager and legend in the game and then over an experienced professional manager like Allardyce? KK and Big Sam should have sent for Tags to sort him out.

Rant over. I'll go and cheer on 'Arry and the Spurs now .

[march4]

Geordies.

[Beardy200]

Not that bothered really but if it comes down to Newcastle or Hull then it has to be the Geordies to go as you'd have to think Newcastle have under-performed this year while Hull have over-performed. I'm looking to next year so bye bye bar codes

[Nick1984]

I like them, used to be my second team back in 96'ish...

don't care who goes down as long as it's not us

[march4]

Apr 19, 2009 13:20:33 GMT Nick1984 said:

I like them, used to be my second team back in 96'ish...

don't care who goes down as long as it's not us

Second team?

What is one of those?

[premierpotters08]

they talk all weird and funny ;d

[crimesy]

Ant & Dec

[starkiller]

They spend more time waiting for shit to happen around St Jim's Park than working.

[boscfc]

Just one.

That fat, scouse horse-bothering wanker .. Quinn.

[cantspellwontspell]

I lived there for 3 years, I worked at SJP on matchdays in 96-97 , had a ball, saw some amazing football (whilst getting paid) , and some of my old uni mates were geordie fans. However I still want them to go down ;D

[Deleted]

1. Their delusional, mongatron fans who somehow manage to swan around St. James Park every time the Sky Cameras are there, even if it's a Tuesday afternoon. The ones that believe that Keegan and Shearer are "messiahs" in spite of absolutely no evidence that either is/was anything other than miles out of their depth.

2. The media jizzfest that surrounds them and the idea that the Prem "needs" teams like Newcastle. Fuck yourselves off.

3. Fat Micky Quinn. Gobshite.

4. Steven Taylor. Vile, thuggish Geordie inbred. Hugely overrated to boot.

5. Alan Shearer. Vile, thuggish Geordie inbred. Elbowed and kicked people throughout his career, undermined virtually every manager he played under. Talked self-contradictory bollocks on Match Of The Day. Lining his pockets at a club he supposedly"loves".

6. Mike Ashley, Freddie Shepherd. Dickheads both.

[sweetandinnocent]

for believing everybody who will take th job is the messiah.

[starkiller]

By the way, what happened to the thread with the other teams messageboards? Could do with a good laugh reading the Newcastle one.

[Deleted]

Train fare to the NE from Liverpool is one of the most expensive routes in the country

[kidcrewbob]

Great post Linx - couldn't have put it better myself. Before this season no particular feelings one way or the other, but to hear the mainstream media bleating "the fans don't deserve it" as a supposed credible reason that they shouldn't be relegated is quite pathetic.

No REAL fans of a relegated team would "deserve it" - with the exception of Man U, but that's never gonna happen anyhow.....

The Toon need another spell in the CCC to "get real"......

[worcsstokie15]

"4. Steven Taylor. Vile, thuggish Geordie inbred. Hugely overrated to boot."

A bit harsh, I think Taylor has fantastic potential and his desire and commitment to help his local club stay in the PL is something to be commended for.

[Deleted]

Apr 19, 2009 14:51:36 GMT worcsstokie15 said:

"4. Steven Taylor. Vile, thuggish Geordie inbred. Hugely overrated to boot."

A bit harsh, I think Taylor has fantastic potential and his desire and commitment to help his local club stay in the PL is something to be commended for.

He's been dire this season. Slow,positionally dodgy,poor man's John Terry.

He's also a complete thug, as his assaults on a variety of players, most recently Arshavin, show. Ryan Taylor, Guthrie and Nolan are all dirty bastards as well.

[riproaring]

love to see the cartoon army go down and not come back. anyone remmember the easter monday they sent us down 3-1 i think it was

[PerCyfilth ....Captains Log]

In 3 words Mick fuckin Quinn.

[daveray26 nealy 27]

so thers more chance of us staying up......

[Caerwrangonpotter]

1. The way that the Toon have harked the arrival of new Messiahs (Keegan Mk 2, Shearer) making out that they will be reinvented into playing the sort of football that nearly won them the league.

2. The were too good to go down mantra, and the Premiership needs Newcastle...erm no, a drop a few leagues will do you good.

3. My family are from Wallsend, and to see the sadness on my Brother in Laws face will be a joy!

4. Waddle & Hoodle, Diamond Lights...is that enough?

[Rebelliousjukebox]

2 more.

Tony Blair - claimed to be a faithful member of the Toon Army (emphasis on "claimed").

Ginola's theatrical dive to get Ian Clarkson sent off in that cup match many years ago.

[offthewall]

All my neighbours.

[besty]

1. They sacked me as their pa announcer 2 days before the stoke replay in the fa cup last season after 2 and a half years thus denying me the opportunity of announcing the club i have supported for 35 years.

2. We can buy Oba Martins of them for 5 - 6 million and turn him into a goal machine feeding off James Beattie

3. Shearers bar still owe me two grand for doing the 'after matches'.

4. Geordies use the word 'like' when it doesn't make any sense to do so...like.

[cr4zyd4ve]

Would like to see them go down, it could fuck them up royally apparently they have no provisions in their player contracts for being relegated. If they can't shift some of their huge squad the wage bill is going to be astronomical next season.

My only worry is that Hull are in free-fall and might be their saving grace. The home game against Boro is going to be a game of epic proportions, if they don't win that I think that will be the end of them.

[jarhead]

Just a dumb fuckin breed fuck em

[redblue]

I can't see them being this bad next season so get rid of them NOW!

[CalgaryPotter]

1. That night
2. Deluded / bigheaded fans
3. The Messiah syndrome
4. Lack of respect to other clubs

I hope they do a Leeds and we'll again see just how big a club they are. I remember their crowds being 16k.........

[nottinghamstokie]

You know, I just don't get the "Shearer thing" - since when has he ever indicated that he sees himself as a "Messiah" ? never, that I've seen

But as for the rest iof the reasns :

1. The Fans - I recall once spending a train journey from London to Leeds on a Saturday evening and there were both Leeds and Newcastle fans on the train. They talked about supporting their clubs and the incredible arrogance of the NU fans was sick-making " Nah, nah, pal, yew cannit beat the jaw-dees, we'se the bes' fons"

2. Keegan - to appoint him once almost worked but he ran away and cried. To appoint him AGAIN beggars belief, and the fact that he really DOES attract "Messiah status" ( "ore Kevan nevva need buy a pint in Noocassell evva agin") despite running away AGAIN shows how desperate they are

3. Gascoigne - a Geordie ICON ? do me a favour.........

4. "Too big a club to go down" - yeah, yeah...yawn...

I have to say that I hope somehow that Boro make a late surge, as I would love Newcastle and Hull to go down

[stokie63]

simple their fans are knobs and think they are the bees knees will piss me sen if they go down.