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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 12, 2009 22:04:35 GMT
I know he isnt good enough but booing and shouting abuse at your own players is criminal. Why were people doing this yesterday, it isnt helpful  |
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Post by smirny72 on Apr 12, 2009 22:08:15 GMT
Although I dont think he is good enough to play in prem I would never boo thats just stupid
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Post by hokusai on Apr 12, 2009 22:08:48 GMT
Agreed, even if they could argue they were booing the decision to bring him on rather than Cressy himself, it doesn't come across and does nothing for the team nor our stellar reputation as top fans!
Never understood booing your own players!
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 12, 2009 22:09:02 GMT
I must be going deaf. I didn't hear anyone booing Cresswell and I'm pretty sure if anyone did, they wouldn't have been booing him, they would have been directing their anger at Pulis for bringing him on. I wasn't too pleased, but once he was on, I was urging him to do well. Unfortunately, he did what I thought he would do...nowt because he's out of his depth in this league.
OS.
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 12, 2009 22:09:05 GMT
there people around me booing and abusing when he came on.
nothing but wankers
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 12, 2009 22:11:07 GMT
there people around me booing and abusing when he came on. nothing but wankers What did they say when you told them? |
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Post by AstroTom on Apr 12, 2009 22:12:34 GMT
I wouldnt boo him, i think he is a good player.....but only in the championship.
He cant cut it in the Prem unfortunately...
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 12, 2009 22:12:41 GMT
there people around me booing and abusing when he came on. nothing but wankers What did they say when you told them? I told them to shut the fuck up and that they wernt helping |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 12, 2009 22:13:51 GMT
What did they say when you told them? I told them to shut the fuck up and that they wernt helping Yes , but what did they say? |
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 12, 2009 22:17:26 GMT
I told them to shut the fuck up and that they wernt helping Yes , but what did they say? they didnt say much really, think they were too pissed |
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Apr 12, 2009 22:18:17 GMT
Don't boo him....................groanning now and again is allright but don't boo him FFS.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 12, 2009 22:19:23 GMT
I never heard any boo's in or around block 30 but a fair few heads looked ground-wards when his number appeared on the board.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 22:20:15 GMT
booing a player aint goin to help the situation, it just makes the fans look like total fuckin stupid arseholes for booing one of your own players.
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Apr 12, 2009 22:42:32 GMT
i think it was the right sub just too early!!!
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Post by scfcjaffa on Apr 12, 2009 22:54:22 GMT
there people around me booing and abusing when he came on. nothing but wankers which block was this ? |
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 12, 2009 22:56:40 GMT
there people around me booing and abusing when he came on. nothing but wankers which block was this ? 26 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2009 23:09:36 GMT
they didnt say much really, think they were too pissed And the original question was ... ?  |
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Post by barmystokie1 on Apr 12, 2009 23:21:16 GMT
I think everyone has just come to accept that cresswell isnt good enough in the premiership and pulis has saw the light and will probably get rid of him in the summer..... to boo him is not being a true supporter, what kind of confidence will he get from that to do something well when called upon? terrible
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 12, 2009 23:50:47 GMT
hear no boos from in or around block 23 tbh.
I would have brought Tonge on who can at least keep possession. I really hate all the anti-Cress stuff as this time last year he was a hero.
Not his fault that he's been shown up this season in a better standard, and if I met him in a pub this summer I'd shake his hand, thank him and let him buy me a night's worth of beers!
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Post by march4 on Apr 12, 2009 23:54:37 GMT
Bunny, I disagree about Tonge. He offers the same as Cresswell - nothing.
Congratulations on your excellent e-mail to Holden. I wonder if you will receive any sort of reply.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 12, 2009 23:59:40 GMT
march ...
do you believe that Cresswell was/is a better option than anybody else?
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 13, 2009 0:08:12 GMT
He doesn't pick himself does he?
BM
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Post by happydays on Apr 13, 2009 0:09:59 GMT
Mate gotta say I was in row 19 in Block 26 and all I heard was clapping, no booing.
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Post by march4 on Apr 13, 2009 0:10:44 GMT
Paul, if TP wished to keep the same formation (and I think he did) then his options were severely limited.
Cresswell has put in performances against ManU & Chelsea, but yesterday he was at his poorest.
I can't see any option to Cresswell without playing more square pegs in round holes or changing the shape of the team with 5 in midfield.
It is a worrying development as we are totally dependent on Fuller and BT playing the 90 mins of the final 6 matches.
Yesterday, my heart dropped as I saw Cressers ready to come on as I knew we would have to hang on to a 1-0 if we were going to win. He gave nothing going forwards, missed his tackles and kept on losing the ball. Your arguements about 5 in midfield are very persuasive after the event, but if we had changed shape it could have invited even more pressure on us and we might even have lost!
It is for these sorts of decisions TP is paid a lot of money. Had I been in his shoes (unlikely I know) I would have done exactly the same thing.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 0:24:57 GMT
He gave nothing going forwards, missed his tackles and kept on losing the ball. It is for these sorts of decisions TP is paid a lot of money. Had I been in his shoes (unlikely I know) I would have done exactly the same thing. Next time? |
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Post by march4 on Apr 13, 2009 0:30:21 GMT
Next time, if I was TP I would throw my cap and water bottle down the touch line if BT or Fuller had to come off.
Alternatively, I would try Oli in the middle in a slightly more withdrawn Mama role and encourage him to get forward. Alternatively he could slot in alongside Whelan and Rory push forwards. Finally he could play on the right (or Rory) and let Lenny play behind the central striker.
Of these 3, I would go for the first and then get lots of stick for handing the initiative to the opposition.
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Post by bertieb on Apr 13, 2009 0:32:52 GMT
I am in block 20 and we heard a few boos.
RS
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 0:36:56 GMT
Next time, if I was TP I would throw my cap and water bottle down the touch line if BT or Fuller had to come off. Alternatively, I would try Oli in the middle in a slightly more withdrawn Mama role and encourage him to get forward. Alternatively he could slot in alongside Whelan and Rory push forwards. Finally he could play on the right (or Rory) and let Lenny play behind the central striker. Of these 3, I would go for the first and then get lots of stick for handing the initiative to the opposition. But just to clarify ... beyond the most ridiculous set of circumstances, you wouldn't still continue with Cresswell as an option? |
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Post by march4 on Apr 13, 2009 0:40:38 GMT
No, Paul. I think its time to give him a little rest ;D
Incidentally, how would you have handled the situation yesterday?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 0:54:31 GMT
No, Paul. I think its time to give him a little rest ;D Incidentally, how would you have handled the situation yesterday? March I've said several times over the last 24 hours that I would have gone 4-5-1. Not with hindsight but AT THE TIME I turned to my son and said we really need to try and nullify Gutierrez ... their midfield is moving into the ascendancy. Beattie is shot, let's get him off, leave Ric as the lone striker and get an extra man in midfield. You know me ... I HATE defending a one goal lead, but in my humble opinion, with the substitutions that we had available, this was the only REALISTIC option available to us. In the end we brought on Cresswell which meant that we didn't give ourselves any support in midfield OR provide ourselves with any impetus offensively. |
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