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Post by Gunslinger on Apr 7, 2009 19:46:57 GMT
Agree totally. Both 'boro and 'castle will be dating The Grim Reaper if they lose. I'm no fan at all of The Tango Man but it would be fun if Hull managed to survive as well this season.
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Post by elliottgold on Apr 7, 2009 19:55:28 GMT
I want Stoke to beat Newcastle irrespective of what result we get at Boro - even if we lost I would want Stoke to beat Newcastle.
Aside from our own respective matches, the best thing for Stoke is a Hull win and vice versa. If we both win - I think we both stay up.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 7, 2009 19:59:31 GMT
Selfishly, I think the best thing for Stoke in the Boro-Hull game is a Boro win, as you'd think Boro are pretty much doomed anyway.
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Post by mrpickles on Apr 7, 2009 19:59:48 GMT
yeah i agree with that elliot. I just wish your manager would fuck off though and go to a club i actually dislike. Maybe the next newcastle manager? It's making me dislike him even more knowing he's in charge of a club i actually quite admire.
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tiger8chris
Academy Starlet
stick ur premier league up ur arse
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Post by tiger8chris on Apr 7, 2009 20:06:41 GMT
I'm worried for us if we get nothing from our next 2
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 8:43:21 GMT
No, its my 1st post dipshit sutton,sutton,sutton!!! if you need to lie you have to cover your tracks mate. your profile states 638 posts made on this board. i`m afraid to say that i agree that you really are a sad twat as i`ve told you before on ANOTHER of your many posts. if you enjoy reading & commenting on this board it aint a problem but by lying you now look a complete sad bastard. Good grief! I'm well aware everyone knows how many posts I've made. I was being sarcastic mouse brain
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 8, 2009 8:47:10 GMT
bless him sutton ;D
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Post by RAF on Apr 8, 2009 8:49:49 GMT
I think he was quite aware aswell, maybe just not subtle enough for your mouse brain, hey Sutton? H
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 8:58:21 GMT
I think he was quite aware aswell, maybe just not subtle enough for your mouse brain, hey Sutton? H I did consider that, but I think you're giving him far too much credit. Proper daft lad IMO
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Post by GazMcNicol on Apr 8, 2009 8:59:55 GMT
No, its my 1st post dipshit sutton,sutton,sutton!!! if you need to lie you have to cover your tracks mate. your profile states 638 posts made on this board. i`m afraid to say that i agree that you really are a sad twat as i`ve told you before on ANOTHER of your many posts. if you enjoy reading & commenting on this board it aint a problem but by lying you now look a complete sad bastard. OOPS.. ..BUSTED!!
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 8, 2009 9:01:31 GMT
Most fans outside of Newcastle should be hoping for a Stoke win......The toon being relegated will make a great soap opera. But i too have a senaky feeling that they will win their 3 home games and just survive. Could be between SUnderland and Hull.....and I am hoping Hull survive
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Post by truckerged on Apr 8, 2009 9:04:11 GMT
sutton are you stillgoing for that last eufa cup place? lol
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 9:46:20 GMT
sutton are you stillgoing for that last eufa cup place? lol Afraid so, the champions league spots looks just out of reach now
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Post by stan on Apr 8, 2009 9:52:28 GMT
Could be between SUnderland and Hull.....and I am hoping Hull survive I can't see Sunderland not beating West Brom, and probably Hull. Although they are on a bad run, I expect them to be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2009 9:52:56 GMT
Hull fans should just be concerned about their own teams results for once...apart from Sutton who seems to be physically and emotionally entwined with all things Stoke!
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 10:01:52 GMT
I'd like Boro to stay up at the expense of Hull, so I can enjoy that sense of smug satisfaction of knowing that of the three teams that came up only one of them was good enough to stand up to the test. It does amuse me this assumption, that now you sit a massive 1 point above us, that Stoke are fine, yet Hull are going down. Some of you newbies sound incredibly naive, and I bet its the same bunch who will be whining like women if Newcastle beat you. I have supported my team for many years, and even when we were sat in the top 6 for so long, I knew it was temporary. Stoke and Hull have 2 of the weakest squads in the division, which is why we are both down there. One game at a time fellas, you could end up looking extremely silly
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 8, 2009 10:05:54 GMT
I'd like Boro to stay up at the expense of Hull, so I can enjoy that sense of smug satisfaction of knowing that of the three teams that came up only one of them was good enough to stand up to the test. It does amuse me this assumption, that now you sit a massive 1 point above us, that Stoke are fine, yet Hull are going down. Some of you newbies sound incredibly naive, and I bet its the same bunch who will be whining like women if Newcastle beat you. I have supported my team for many years, and even when we were sat in the top 6 for so long, I knew it was temporary. Stoke and Hull have 2 of the weakest squads in the division, which is why we are both down there. One game at a time fellas, you could end up looking extremely silly It is more to do with our run in compared to yours Sutton. Right from the start of the season we looked to have the best run in of all the promoted clubs and nowt has happened to change our opinion. We also have the momentum which you don't have - at one point you were 12 (or was it 13) points ahead of us - now we are ahead of you.
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Post by stokie01 on Apr 8, 2009 10:06:51 GMT
sutton can i ask, how the hell have you got 642 posts on a stoke forum, when your a hull fan? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2009 10:09:50 GMT
sutton to be fair you have to remember that the belief we have is based on the fact that all of our toughest games are done and dusted and we managed to pick up points in a fair few of them.we are where we are because we had a far tougher first half of the season to you but picked up some points along the way, whereas you guys had the easier sides and well, just haven't performed over the last few months! we do still have to pick some points up agreed but it (on paper) should be a far easier task than you have!! we have to get some points against the "weaker" sides you failed against, you have to pick up some points against some stronger sides we performed against...we do really have a bit more to be optimistic about than your good self. simple question is, can you do a "Stoke" against the decent sides? hmmmmm, i'm not convinced.
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Post by stan on Apr 8, 2009 10:10:27 GMT
It does amuse me this assumption, that now you sit a massive 1 point above us, that Stoke are fine, yet Hull are going down. Some of you newbies sound incredibly naive, and I bet its the same bunch who will be whining like women if Newcastle beat you. I have supported my team for many years, and even when we were sat in the top 6 for so long, I knew it was temporary. Stoke and Hull have 2 of the weakest squads in the division, which is why we are both down there. One game at a time fellas, you could end up looking extremely silly For weeks you kept on about how crap our form was, how we couldn't do this, couldn't do that and all the rest of it. And fair enough. At the time, it was true. And, given the way Hull are often belittled on here, who could blame you... But we have strengthened. We are a much better team than we were at the start of the season. Our form is very good. Hull, on the other hand are on a downward spiral. Trust me, if we were one point above Hull, but having been 14 points ahead of them, we'd all be far more worried. We're not safe yet. Of course we are not. We need a few more points. But, forget the bias, objectively, it's pretty hard to see a team that has won three of the last four at home (and drawn the other, having been ahead in injury time) not winning another home game this season. You would have to fancy us to get five points from Newcastle, Blackburn, West Ham and Wigan...plus a draw at Hull.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 8, 2009 10:13:10 GMT
I'd like Boro to stay up at the expense of Hull, so I can enjoy that sense of smug satisfaction of knowing that of the three teams that came up only one of them was good enough to stand up to the test. It does amuse me this assumption, that now you sit a massive 1 point above us, that Stoke are fine, yet Hull are going down. Some of you newbies sound incredibly naive, and I bet its the same bunch who will be whining like women if Newcastle beat you. I have supported my team for many years, and even when we were sat in the top 6 for so long, I knew it was temporary. Stoke and Hull have 2 of the weakest squads in the division, which is why we are both down there. One game at a time fellas, you could end up looking extremely silly Sutton, I haven't seen any survival parties around S-O-T yet, far from it. We all recognise the pear-shaped possibilities and that's why we're still clenching our buttocks tightly. But we've got such a slew of games where we'd be expected to pick up points. And you haven't. AWAY at Boro and Sunderland, where the home team will be favourites in front of full houses in do-or-die clashes. They're in poor form, but certainly no worse than you. And Villa and Bolton. A point at either would be more than you could realistically expect. And home v Utd and Liverpool...and us. I thought before the weekend you'd have to beat Pompey or us to feel like you've got a real shot at it. So now it's looking like you'll need 3 v us. You could get them, but if you don't, I fear for you. But all it takes is one unlikely victory elsewhere, and that could obviously come anywhere. But it's hard to see it on paper
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Post by march4 on Apr 8, 2009 10:22:10 GMT
Since the end of October, Hull have been on an inevitable slide to the Championship.
Since Christmas, Stoke have strengthened, have a settled team and are showing their best form of the season against teams lower in the table.
Stoke should survive from here on, although I think it will be tighter than some people think. Hull are struggling to score and consequently will lose out in the final scrabble.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Apr 8, 2009 10:35:46 GMT
Both Stoke and Hull will stay up IMHO. I honestly think the current bottom 3 will be the bottom 3 come the 24th May. So I suppose we could do with both ourselves and Hull winning to create a larger gap for Boro and 'Castle to chase.
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Post by stan on Apr 8, 2009 10:48:59 GMT
I honestly think the current bottom 3 will be the bottom 3 come the 24th May. It must be rare for the bottom three sides at this stage of the season to remain there at the end. Fulham looked dead and buried at this stage last season before winning four out of five (?) and Bolton did something similar. As I keep saying, 'castle's fixtures are probably far easier than they look on paper. The home games are clearly favourable, they have a great recent record at WHL (romping to a 4-1 win last season) and Villa away on the last day is very winnable (Villa are in wretched form and will have nothing to play for). If Newcastle get (at least) a point on Saturday, I think they'll almost certainly wriggle out of it.
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 11:38:35 GMT
It does amuse me this assumption, that now you sit a massive 1 point above us, that Stoke are fine, yet Hull are going down. Some of you newbies sound incredibly naive, and I bet its the same bunch who will be whining like women if Newcastle beat you. I have supported my team for many years, and even when we were sat in the top 6 for so long, I knew it was temporary. Stoke and Hull have 2 of the weakest squads in the division, which is why we are both down there. One game at a time fellas, you could end up looking extremely silly It is more to do with our run in compared to yours Sutton. Right from the start of the season we looked to have the best run in of all the promoted clubs and nowt has happened to change our opinion. We also have the momentum which you don't have - at one point you were 12 (or was it 13) points ahead of us - now we are ahead of you. I totally understand that, and agree. In all honesty I think you and us should be ok now, but I don't care what anyone says about momentum and run-ins, EVERY single remaining game is loseable, and so many people talk on here (not everyone granted) that it no longer involves Stoke, I'm sorry but thats bollocks, you are still in the mix with us.
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Post by Bick on Apr 8, 2009 11:49:17 GMT
I would like us to pull further apart with ports and hull losing. But actually, Hull and Us both winning would be a great result too.
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Post by vestanpance on Apr 8, 2009 11:53:40 GMT
For my part, the best possible results on saturday involve Stoke and Hull winning, with Sunderland playing Manchester United you cannot see them getting anything so that would mean the bottom 4 being effectively cut adrift from the rest of the league, which i would think would be enough to ensure survival for both teams.
Sutton, there is a genuine belief that we will stay in this division, but it is not borne from arrogance or anything like it. We are currently 7th in the form league, having won 4 and drawn 2 of our last eight games. We have a run-in which compares favourably to our rivals and our fate is in our own hands, a remarkable feat considering what we started this division with. Even if we do win on Saturday i still wouldn't say we're definitely out of it, but we're taking massive strides forward. Hull have picked up 14 points in 21 games and look (at least to me) pretty jaded, unsurprising given the momentus efforts your squad has put in over the past few months and there will unquestionably be a different feel around the two clubs at present. You might think momentum count for nothing, but that just means you've clearly never played football, because momentum can be everything, a fact borne out by your own teams' startling performance in the second half of the Championship last season and the first ten games of this season. You simply thought you were going to win every game, and in fairness, you virtually did. Now Hull look like a team scared stiff of relegation, and not the side who amazed everyone in August & September.
In short, you'll find us optimistic, because we have a right to be so. Some fo our younger posters might even talk about finishing in the top 12, and extra revenue and all that jazz. Those old enough and ugly enough will, by and large, keep their own counsel but will not be lectured at by the supporter of a club who were telling all and sundry they were challenging for Europe after a dozen games. Comments like that have a propensity to bite you on the arse don't they?
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Post by suttontiger on Apr 8, 2009 12:02:28 GMT
For my part, the best possible results on saturday involve Stoke and Hull winning, with Sunderland playing Manchester United you cannot see them getting anything so that would mean the bottom 4 being effectively cut adrift from the rest of the league, which i would think would be enough to ensure survival for both teams. Sutton, there is a genuine belief that we will stay in this division, but it is not borne from arrogance or anything like it. We are currently 7th in the form league, having won 4 and drawn 2 of our last eight games. We have a run-in which compares favourably to our rivals and our fate is in our own hands, a remarkable feat considering what we started this division with. Even if we do win on Saturday i still wouldn't say we're definitely out of it, but we're taking massive strides forward. Hull have picked up 14 points in 21 games and look (at least to me) pretty jaded, unsurprising given the momentus efforts your squad has put in over the past few months and there will unquestionably be a different feel around the two clubs at present. You might think momentum count for nothing, but that just means you've clearly never played football, because momentum can be everything, a fact borne out by your own teams' startling performance in the second half of the Championship last season and the first ten games of this season. You simply thought you were going to win every game, and in fairness, you virtually did. Now Hull look like a team scared stiff of relegation, and not the side who amazed everyone in August & September. In short, you'll find us optimistic, because we have a right to be so. Some fo our younger posters might even talk about finishing in the top 12, and extra revenue and all that jazz. Those old enough and ugly enough will, by and large, keep their own counsel but will not be lectured at by the supporter of a club who were telling all and sundry they were challenging for Europe after a dozen games. Comments like that have a propensity to bite you on the arse don't they? Where exactly did I say momentum counts for nothing? I simply said every game is loseable. As for the Europe comments, they came from our naive chairman, and Brown naturally had to back him up. Ask us real fans, and I'd be amazed if you find any (certainly none I know) who ever believed it was the case. As for me clearly never playing the game, you don't know me, but for you're information, you're wrong about that too
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Post by vestanpance on Apr 8, 2009 12:13:13 GMT
No, clearly from this statement you believe that momentum is vital. My mistake.
If you've played a bit, you'll know from experience that the feeling around the two training camps right now Sutton will be poles apart. Presumably you were there on Saturday and you cannot tell me that Hull looked anything but terrified of losing that game, which is a stark contrast to the remarkable cavalier stuff you were playing earlier this season, and the latter part of last season. For me at least, Stoke are starting to look like a team acclimatising to these dizzy heights, and Hull look like they have a bit of vertigo. For what it's worth, I firmly believe these conversations will be continuing next season with us both in the Premier League, and that would be a remarkable achievement for both clubs.
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