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Post by Pugsley on Apr 2, 2009 13:52:57 GMT
It's all about opinions. One of the more popular ones is that Terry looks better alongside Carvallho.
Perhaps that's the big problem with England - all these so called players are made to look better than they really are because of the foreign lads they play with.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 2, 2009 13:55:27 GMT
Think you've hit the nail on the head there.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 2, 2009 13:58:07 GMT
Pugsley:
You're right, I don't agree ref Ferdinand. I didn't rate him at West Ham or Leeds either. Gerrard is a top class player IMO but, again, he looks so much better surrounded by the continental players at Liverpool.
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 14:01:03 GMT
Quite possibly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 14:16:54 GMT
Ferdinand would get into most teams. He was at fault for the goal last night but generally he's cut the lack of concentration out of his game and has been superb over the last three seasons. He has a lot of pace, can play the ball out of defence, and looks composed.
How anyone can compare John Terry is beyond me. He's got no pace and his positioning frequently lets strikers get beyond him at international level. He's got zero footballing intelligence. If Ledley King' knee wasn't fucked Terry wouldn't start for me.
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 14:22:29 GMT
I disagree, I think he flatters to deceive and he does not have much pace.
Like Pugs says it's all about opinions.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 2, 2009 14:29:26 GMT
Doesn't have much pace compared to Usaine Bolt do you mean?
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 14:34:10 GMT
He isn't a fast player Pugs. Now Ashley Cole , he is fast.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 14:37:32 GMT
He isn't a fast player Pugs. Now Ashley Cole , he is fast. H He's rapid H. And compared to John Terry he's the Starship fucking Enterprise.
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 14:43:11 GMT
I just think he is overrated. He makes alot of mistakes. He's out of position alot, some people might see it as a good thing that he gets forward but he is too slow at getting back, defending is his first job. He is also careless with his passing. 130 grand a week? I dont think he's worth 30 grand a week. And since Vidic has been out suspended Ferdinand has done the square root of fuck all, as the results have shown.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 14:45:00 GMT
I just think he is overrated. He makes alot of mistakes. He's out of position alot, some people might see it as a good thing that he gets foward but he is too slow at getting back, defending is his first job. He is also careless with his passing. 130 grand a week? I dont think he's worth 30 grand a week. And since Vidic has been out suspended Ferdinand has done the square root of fuck all, as the results have shown. H Can't think of many mistakes he's made this season or last. There was the goal last night, can't think of too many more. You could say the same thing about Vidic/Ferdinand about Carvalho/Terry.
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 14:47:50 GMT
Look I don't rate him, that's the end of it as far as I'm concerned. And after that 'Rio's About' or whatever it was called where he did wind ups on his mates I can't say I dislike many players more than Ferdinand the prick. Here's a few of his mistakes. H
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 2, 2009 15:02:54 GMT
We all know that, in football, we all have an opinion and we usually shout it pretty loud. As a group, football fans can rarely agree on anything. We simply have to sgree to disagree and respect the other guy's opinion even if we totally disagree with it. Forums like this are great to discuss such matters as long as we all understand that no-one is right and no-one is wrong. A player is either, the dogs bollocks or completely shite depending on who you ask. We can't even agree on the players we see every week at Stoke so what chance, highly paid 'so called superstars'.
God! I've just realised what a load of pointless shite I've just typed. Ignore me I'm suffering from premature senility.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 2, 2009 20:15:53 GMT
Just wait until you get the real thing. You'll end up like me...going on the Dender Bender Bus with that gobshite, RAF. ;D OS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 20:18:44 GMT
Speak for yourself chief
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Post by RAF on Apr 2, 2009 20:28:33 GMT
I'm wounded I really am. H
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 2, 2009 21:11:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 10:51:30 GMT
One thing I do know for sure is that whatever you may think of him he'll be cheering Stoke on tomorrow rather than brazil.
He's a rayt stokey now!
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