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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 17:44:28 GMT
Fellani's goal a great finish...we could not cope with Everton and were not good enough just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping  |
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Post by RICH68 on Mar 14, 2009 17:46:54 GMT
just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping Away from home that`s a fair point. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 17:49:09 GMT
just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping Away from home that`s a fair point. Strange I didn't see too much of that at Villa? |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 14, 2009 17:49:31 GMT
Fellani's goal a great finish...we could not cope with Everton and were not good enough just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping Yes Maybe but a great finish ?i don't think so they were poor today Everton and Tommo cost us big time. |
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Post by stokemark on Mar 14, 2009 17:49:35 GMT
Little toerag
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Post by wizard_of_aus on Mar 14, 2009 17:50:08 GMT
lol apart from Fellainis goal beign a great finish hes spot on.
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 14, 2009 17:51:19 GMT
"When Everton scored it was all over"
Usually is when its 3-1 on 91minutes.
tit
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 17:52:18 GMT
lol apart from Fellainis goal beign a great finish hes spot on. 2 mistakes from the Keeper and Everton still in the dressing room for most of the second half. Good on yer matey Everton are a team that work hard and get results because of that but Paul Walsh hasn't got a scooby. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 17:53:08 GMT
"When Everton scored it was all over" Usually is when its 3-1 on 91minutes. tit He is the same every time they talk about us mate he is a despisable little cunt' |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 14, 2009 18:02:15 GMT
not sure what he was on. Kept going on about how great everton were in the first half (of which they were pretty good.... we did not close them down!!) But brushed over the fact that Stoke were all over them in the second half less the last 10 mins, insisting that it was only because everton realised they had to fight????? More like that Stoke were tiring and throwing everything at them...... Needs to tuake of those blinkers. everton edged it overall and deserved the three points, but we were undone by a poor first half and Sorro have a mixed bag  |
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Post by stokebill on Mar 14, 2009 18:25:53 GMT
???
This sounds more like it to me.
Fellaini settles Everton's nerves in the face of Stoke's second half barrage
Premier League
Everton 3
Jo 18, Lescott 24, Fellaini 90
Stoke City 1
Shawcross 52
Ian Whittell at Goodison Park
Saturday 14 March 2009 17.13 GMT
Stoke's attempted comeback from two goals behind fell short of their recent heroics to earn a draw at Aston Villa two weeks ago but there should still have been much to generate optimism for their manager Tony Pulis.
First half goals from Jo and Joleon Lescott had apparently put the home side on course for a routine victory against one of the Premier League's strugglers only for Ryan Shawcross's second half effort to bring about a complete transformation in the game's pattern. Eventually, Marouane Fellaini's deflected 90th minute shot settled Everton nerves but the score-line flattered the home side and did not tell the complete story.
Everton had been comfortable even before a two-goal burst inside six minutes secured the three points, both goals underlining the weakness at the heart of the Stoke defence.
In the 19th minute, a long ball forward found Jo who exchanged passes with Fellaini and took the return ball in his stride before burying a shot underneath the goalkeeper Thomas Sorensen's dive.
Just six minutes later, the keeper was again at fault as a cross from the impressive Leon Osman found the head of Tim Cahill whose effort was parried by Sorensen. Unfortunately for the keeper, the loose ball fell directly into the path of Lescott who had the simplest of tasks in forcing the rebound over the goal-line.
It was all so routine for an Everton team which has now lost just once in their last 18 league and cup games, a remarkable statistic that bears testimony to the work performed by David Moyes this season in the wake of an often crippling injury list.
And more goals still appeared likely to come from the hosts. Osman might have added to the lead before the interval after a smart pass by Jo which allowed the midfielder to neatly switch feet and curl an attempt just off target.
Yet the game was turned on its head immediately after the restart, possibly because of Everton replacing Cahill, presumably for an injury concern. After a confident start to the second period, the visitors reduced the deficit after 52 minutes when Liam Lawrence's accurate corner found Shawcross, who glanced his header beyond Howard and into the far corner.
It was the signal for a completely unexpected Everton panic, with Ricardo Fuller heading just wide and Shawcross almost converting another dangerous corner from Lawrence.
With Stoke pressing, Everton might have added a cushion four minutes from time but Sorensen made a double save from Osman and Steven Pienaar to ensure the game remained in the balance until Fellaini's late third.
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 14, 2009 18:31:33 GMT
Again we virtualy throw the match away with a pathetic first half,then hold our own in the second without putting much pressure on the goalie.
Un acceptable performance overall but we are used to this and when we get the odd miracle reult everybody jumps up and down and forecasts an away win.get a life it aint gonna happen with the Tp style
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 18:34:53 GMT
Exactly how the frig can some of these Sky pundits keep getting paid week in week out for coming up with utter bollocks is scandalous...Everton had the game in the bag the first half but we made in uncomfortable in the second and certainly not the way Walsh the toss bag had portrayed.
Arsehole.
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Post by suttontiger on Mar 14, 2009 18:40:27 GMT
Fellani's goal a great finish...we could not cope with Everton and were not good enough just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping Because a pundit says something you don't want to hear, it doesn't make it wrong. Maybe thats the way it was? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2009 18:43:51 GMT
Tbf tigger he was talking out of his arse and refused to give us any credit whatsoever. Even though we did sound like we gave it a go in the second half. Added to the fact he's always been a twatter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 18:44:17 GMT
Fellani's goal a great finish...we could not cope with Everton and were not good enough just hoofing balls in the box and scrapping Because a pundit says something you don't want to hear, it doesn't make it wrong. Maybe thats the way it was? The fucking goal was a deflection If you look at the write up from the other chap that is fair reflection of the game... If we were toss I would say so end of...He just took a cop out option and wrote us off even though we had virtually all of the second half. |
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Mar 14, 2009 18:55:29 GMT
Because a pundit says something you don't want to hear, it doesn't make it wrong. Maybe thats the way it was? The fucking goal was a deflection If you look at the write up from the other chap that is fair reflection of the game... If we were toss I would say so end of...He just took a cop out option and wrote us off even though we had virtually all of the second half.
Second half we really threatened their goal
Ryans goal was followed by another where he just failed to make contact at the back post, a shot from Whelan screamed inches over, and Daio had an on target shot deflected for a corner
No arguments about the first half, they bossed it territorially, but it was two bad mistakes that cost us the points today
Thought Jo gave Ryan a bit of a runaround in the first half mind |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 14, 2009 18:58:11 GMT
I agree with him. (Bar the great finish statement obviously)
We looked good for around 15 minutes in the second half, ironically, when we DID start to get a few players forward, did get the ball wide, and did chuck a few teasers into the box. Other than that a 'Stoke were shit once again away from home' headline in tommorow's Sentivale wouldn't offend me in the slightest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 19:09:59 GMT
I agree with him. (Bar the great finish statement obviously) We looked good for around 15 minutes in the second half, ironically, when we DID start to get a few players forward, did get the ball wide, and did chuck a few teasers into the box. Other than that a 'Stoke were shit once again away from home' headline in tommorow's Sentivale wouldn't offend me in the slightest. BHP what do you expect from a Stoke team...Everton have a tremendous record in recent matches and it was silly mistakes that cost us in the first half once again. We had almost all the second half and as pointed out had opportunities to pull level. You agree with what the frogspawn of a twat Walsh said? If so that is shocking he said we were milles away from what Everton are as a team...Almost implying we should not be on the same pitch. |
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Post by stokebill on Mar 14, 2009 19:19:03 GMT
Hardly sounds like we couldn't cope with Everton.
More from The Mirror
Stoke throw everything at Everton to go down fighting
14/03/2009
Everton 3 - 1 Stoke
Stoke did their best to ruin David Moyes' seventh anniversary as Everton boss, but they are still up to their necks in a relegation battle following their defeat at Goodison Park.
Everton cruised into a two-goal first-half lead through Jo and Joleon Lescott, but did their best to throw away victory after the break.
Stoke pulled one back through Ryan Shawcross and continually threatened to steal a point, but despite a brave fight they are still without an away league win this term.
But it was only a third from Marouane Fellaini in injury-time that ensured Everton the points, as they made it just one defeat in their last 18 games.
Brazilian striker Jo was recalled in place of teenager Jack Rodwell, having been cup-tied last weekend for the quarter-final victory over Middlesbrough. His return was the only change from that side.
Stoke, who produced an encouraging win over Bolton last time out, retained that starting line-up, with Matthew Etherington returning to the bench after suspension.
But Everton looked full of confidence, certainly early on, as you would expect from a side heading for a Wembley semi-final against Manchester United, and with European football all but confirmed for next season by virtue of their current sixth place.
If Arsenal beat Hull in their delayed cup quarter-final on Tuesday, it will virtually secure seventh place in the Premier League as a European qualification spot, further enhancing Everton's desire for at least Europa League football next term.
They opened with a flurry of chances, created with pace and movement that worried Stoke's big defenders.
Only a fine saving challenge from Salif Diao stopped Steven Pienaar finishing off a Fellaini cross, the Belgian now sporting a surprisingly cropped hair-cut instead of his trademark bushy style.
Then Leon Osman fired over under pressure following a Leighton Baines cross.
Stoke produced some difficult moments via Rory Delap's long throws, but after 18 minutes Everton were ahead.
Fellaini lifted a neat ball into the box and Jo evaded Ryan Shawcross's challenge to hit a low shot that Thomas Sorensen only half stopped, the ball rolling over the line.
Liam Lawrence needed treatment for a head injury after being caught by Baines' boot as the pair contested possession on the bye-line, and the Stoke man then found himself booked for a foul on Pienaar soon after.
Stoke seemed visible deflated, and after 24 minutes it got worse for them when Lescott side-footed home after Sorensen was only able to palm out a Tim Cahill header following Osman's cross.
It was Lescott's fifth goal of the season on his 100th league appearance for Everton, now in full command.
Jo's clever control and pass set up Osman for another chance, the midfielder lifting a shot just over the far angle, as Everton cruised to the break largely untroubled by the Potters.
Everton sent on Louis Saha for Cahill at the break, with Fellaini taking up a deeper midfield role.
But Stoke, who recovered from 2-0 down at Aston Villa recently to grab a point, looked to again be embarking on similar powers of recovery when Shawcross headed home from a Lawrence corner after 53 minutes.
Before the re-start Ricardo Fuller replaced Mamady Sidibe, who soon headed wide from Delap's cross. Everton needed more now than cruise control.
Shawcross just failed to connect with another Lawrence corner on the far post, Everton looking anything but the assured outfit of the first period.
Stoke sent on Etherington after 68 minutes for Delap, to hopefully supply the wing service for James Beattie and Fuller.
Everton were being caught in possession, hounded all over the pitch and their general lethargy continued to give Stoke encouragement.
Sorensen saved from Jo and Saha, but generally Everton were having to defend in numbers.
Stoke sent on yet another forward with 10 minutes left, Henri Camara taking over from Lawrence as they strived for the equaliser.
Rodwell replaced Joe with five minutes left, to add more strength to midfield as Everton hung on.
Sorensen saved from Osman's 20-yarder, and then beat away Saha's follow-up effort, Everton hitting on the break as Stoke kept coming forward.
And in injury-time Everton sealed the points when Fellaini brought down a Baines long ball and guided his shot past Sorensen.
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Post by fca47 on Mar 14, 2009 19:26:12 GMT
We were absolutely awful in the first half, to talk about tactics is putting a gloss on it, in the first half if we had any tactics it must have been to give the ball away at every opportunity and to make sure the ball was at least 20 feet off the ground. We have the worst away record, but I don't think the worst team, in the division, you would think therefore we would look at what we are doing wrong, but we keep on with same way of playing and expect to get a different end result. Can't even see us getting anything against Hull or WBA.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 19:34:15 GMT
I think we have established we were woeful in the first half...however what has pissed me off is absolutley nothing he said was aimed at how we could have come away from that game with a point it was all about how Everton were way way way better than us.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 14, 2009 19:40:30 GMT
I havn't even heard what he said to be honest.
No we wern't miles away from Everton, and without Sorensen having a complete mare, we may well have gone on to get something, but i completely agree with the sentiments that we showed a complete lack of quality, and only looked threatening when throwing the ball into the box and scrapping.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 19:44:35 GMT
I havn't even heard what he said to be honest. No we wern't miles away from Everton, and without Sorensen having a complete mare, we may well have gone on to get something, but i completely agree with the sentiments that we showed a complete lack of quality, and only looked threatening when throwing the ball into the box and scrapping. Mate it was as if we didn't even belong on the same pitch as Everton...Proper riled me it did. |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 14, 2009 19:49:55 GMT
I havn't even heard what he said to be honest. No we wern't miles away from Everton, and without Sorensen having a complete mare, we may well have gone on to get something, but i completely agree with the sentiments that we showed a complete lack of quality, and only looked threatening when throwing the ball into the box and scrapping. Mate it was as if we didn't even belong on the same pitch as Everton...Proper riled me it did. I'm starting to believe that Pulis thinks in a similar way to be quite honest. We showed that for the 15 minutes that we actually pressed them, that they're nothing special, but we continue to start games hanging on for dear life, and we even started to switch back to that mode 2-1 down towards the end of the game aswell. |
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