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Post by stokie01 on Mar 14, 2009 16:59:16 GMT
???
shocks me.
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Post by chrispk76 on Mar 14, 2009 17:02:29 GMT
his plan nearly worked 1 - keep it tight 2 - pinch a goal well , part 2 came off  |
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Post by ManderBeast on Mar 14, 2009 17:02:36 GMT
ditto..
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Post by Peters Pipe on Mar 14, 2009 17:02:51 GMT
You'd think in at least one of these away games we'd be giving it a real go with the second half team playing from the off.
Pulis wants to keep it tight, fair enough; plays Mama to try and catch Higgys long balls (which is just not working) and hopes we'll still be in it on the hour mark, just isn't working against any sort of vaguely organised defence. Mama wasn't in it today, should be dropped and Beattie and Fuller start. Beattie is a scoring, lively dangerous version of Mama. For all his weaknesses I'd still like to see Pugh at left back for his (marginally) better ball playing skills!
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Post by arma on Mar 14, 2009 17:04:21 GMT
How can you blame the manager for Sorenson making two errors?
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 14, 2009 17:06:05 GMT
Ok Mynamewastaken,
I need to ask... Who the fuck is the third person in your signature????
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Post by serpico on Mar 14, 2009 17:07:00 GMT
You can see what he tries to do, keep it tight and not concede then bring fuller on for the last 20-30 minutes, the only problem is it never works, we always concede, you can't sit back in this league and hope not to concede, teams are to good and more often than not they will score.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 14, 2009 17:08:43 GMT
In fairness (today only) had Sorro not had a mare, it probably would have worked.
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Post by stokebill on Mar 14, 2009 18:33:03 GMT
I didn't watch the game today, Dave the Rave - but it did sound like it could have been 4-0 by half time, and that's a familiar tale.
I know what Pulis is trying to do, and in theory it does have merits. Its just not working though. I could just about understand it if Fuller was our only impact player and Sidibe was in great form, but Fuller has to start with Camara the option from the bench from now on.
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Post by GazMcNicol on Mar 14, 2009 18:36:39 GMT
Fuller still isn't fit enough to start, so thats that!
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Post by stokie01 on Mar 14, 2009 18:39:00 GMT
Fuller still isn't fit enough to start, so thats that!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2009 18:39:08 GMT
his plan nearly worked 1 - keep it tight 2 - pinch a goal well , part 2 came off Its nearly worked all season except for we concede 2 goals in the first half and usually lose!  |
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Post by GrandStokie on Mar 14, 2009 18:39:44 GMT
In fairness (today only) had Sorro not had a mare, it probably would have worked. It hasn't worked though for most of the season. When we play we look dangerous so why try to keep it tight? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2009 18:40:22 GMT
Fuller still isn't fit enough to start, so thats that! If Pulis is correct in saying Fuller couldn't have lasted 90 minutes, surely Camara gives us what we need; someone who can stretch the opposition, certainly in the absence of an apparently not match-fit Etherington. I thought that's what he had been brought in for - a cut-price Fuller substitute. Mama has never really made any impact away from home. |
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 14, 2009 18:43:41 GMT
We haven't won away all season. No one to blame but the manager. End of story.
Another massive game aginst Boro coming up. Massive pressure on the team.
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Mar 14, 2009 19:28:09 GMT
Pulis says "We were very poor in the first half and it's happened too many times away from home this season that we've been slow out of the blocks and given ourselves a mountain to climb. "
Call me cynical but that's YOUR fault Pulis. Wake up man!
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Post by ruts66 on Mar 14, 2009 19:40:02 GMT
We will probably go down because of Pulis' stubborn refusal to recognise that his away tactics don't work...  Aston Villa, and he still doesn't learn. Everybody can see the threat we pose once changes are forced second half, usually when we're 2 goals down. Why can't we start with our impact players in an attacking formation, ffs. WAKE UP, PULIS... |
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Post by stevec101 on Mar 14, 2009 19:41:10 GMT
because he's a cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too busy thinking about where he can squeeze cresswell into the fray? Beattie one almost every ball that was sent his way today, if it had been fuller alongside him i'm convinced he'd have got onto them and terrorised the Everton defence more than sidibi! I'm sorry but Mama is not worthy of a start when we have fuller sitting on the bench, he should play our best 11. Ethrington in for diao, Delap in the middle with Whelan, Fuller up front with Beattie and lets go for it away from home! I'm getting really pi**ed off with Pulis and his pigheaded stubborness. Also what was with the catering at Everton, no Beer, no food before kick off and sold out again before half time. S**t hole and s**t fans
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Post by Sfance on Mar 14, 2009 19:54:41 GMT
Just because (if it's true) Fuller can't play 90 minutes, that's no reason to bring him on late in the game as a desperation move. Let him play from the off and keep him on until he drops. It's a whole lot better defending a lead in the last 20 minutes than having to chase the other team's lead.
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Post by only1clinthill on Mar 14, 2009 20:16:15 GMT
Pulis says "We were very poor in the first half and it's happened too many times away from home this season that we've been slow out of the blocks and given ourselves a mountain to climb. " Call me cynical but that's YOUR fault Pulis. Wake up man! Couldnt agree more....He picks the team and tactics...no one else |
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2009 20:22:48 GMT
I thought we scored today with the team that went out for the first half. Bringing on Fuller for Sidibe then led to a spell of sustained pressure.
However, replacing Rory with Ethers was a mistake and our attacking impetus reduced. Lenny should have gone off and Rory switched sides.
The introduction of Camara for Lenny was the end of the game. We couldn't keep the ball and didn't have a worthwhile attack. Lenny only went off because he was about to be sent off. We were still effectively down to 10 men with Camara making another cameo performance as the new Pericard.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2009 20:38:21 GMT
We did but we were 2-0 at the point, as ever in an away game! |
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2009 20:40:38 GMT
We were 2 down because Tommy seems to have developed some phobia in away games. Sunderland, Villa and now Everton. TP can't legislate against that happening.
After today, I have some confidence of us getting something from Brazil and Dull.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2009 20:44:11 GMT
But he can legislate for not playing his best players. We played well for 20 minutes, we played well for 45 minutes at Villa but it had bugger all effect today!
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2009 20:51:54 GMT
I disagree Bayern, today I felt that the improvement was there for all to see.
I think you would like to see Rory in the middle with Whelan and that could just work. On the otherhand it could go dreadfully wrong. Diao is effective in shielding the central defenders (although he has been so slow this last few games). Would Rory and Glen leave the central defenders too exposed.
Sidibe I think is looking unfit and Ric is a must next week I would think. The only problem with that is if it doesn't work, there are no options on the bench (Camara is the answer to nothing).
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 14, 2009 20:55:45 GMT
I disagree Bayern, today I felt that the improvement was there for all to see. What improvement march? Diao was awful today, in all honesty I don't think he even touched the ball in the first fifteen minutes of the game. Amdy replaced him in the Bolton game and was a huge improvement (for all to see ) and Fuller was equally an improvement when he replaced Mama. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2009 20:56:38 GMT
From what I've read and heard in the first half we were murdered. And we were good for 20 minutes and could have hauled it back but why shoot ourselves in the foot for the first half like we've done continually over the season?! Rory spots danger and as such would provide better cover to the back four imo. But equally I don't quite know what Diao has done right and Faye wrong so Diao is picked. I'm a massive Salif fan but Faye is better. Mama does look unfit yet Fuller doesn't look it but its TP's excuse as to why he doesn't start. And if Ethers isn't fit he should have played for the reserves. Its all very confusing. Mama and Beattie haven't looked together since they first played together. As for Camara I'm yet to see him play so I'll reserve judgement! |
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2009 21:02:09 GMT
Paul, the issue with Diao is that he is our best midfielder, but isn't performing. In the same way Tommy is our best keeper, but has cost us big style in the last 3 away games.
As a manger for how long do you persevere with players so that they can run into form or do you leave them out for players who are better at the moment, but their best is below the best of the players they are replacing.(Bit of a Yes Prime Minister sentence that - sorry)
I would take Amdy in central midfield, its just that the team as a whole look better with Diao and Mama. I don't know why, they just do.
As for today, we looked very impressive for 20 minutes against one of the best teams around. That has to be an improvement when the likes of Blackburn and Portsmouth swatted us away with ease at their grounds.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 14, 2009 21:03:22 GMT
Because he's a first rate qunt!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 14, 2009 21:11:35 GMT
As a manger for how long do you persevere with players so that they can run into form or do you leave them out for players who are better at the moment? It appears you already know the answers to those questions march! |
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