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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 11, 2009 9:04:49 GMT
Cue the sensleess vitriol of some really dense people who might try growing some more brain cells. The lad signed with the best of intentions, I seem to recall most, if not all supporters saw it as a great sgining at the time. It hasnt worked out, his fault ? our fault ? we'll probably never know and Actually, He's still a stoke city player ! On her though appear the predictable, vindictive and downwright nasty responses from the bitter and the twisted of Stoke Upon Trent who, will turn their own personal inner inadequacies on ANY potential target. Absolutely piss poor ! - not Kitson - some of the garbage typed above! Totally agree mate. I wasn't even going to bother with a reply but seeing as you have it's only fair to back ya. Over reaction from the oatcake board for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 9:08:10 GMT
I can’t believe all the hatred towards Kits.
It’s disappointing it didn’t work out but to slate him and call him a prick etc is a bit extreme. These things happen in football, sometimes signings don’t work out (we are not the only club for this to happen to).
We spent big on a player with a proven goal scoring record and I’m glad we took that risk. As it turns out now, we could have an escape route from this whole thing and recoup a lot of our outlay which is a big bonus.
I never had a problem with Kits’ workrate or attitude when he was given a chance. It has been mentioned in his last friendly he didn’t seem interested but we have to assume that by this time the move back to Reading was already on the cards so this probably explains why.
I don’t hold any hatred or grudge against Kits and I hope he goes on to scored goals again at Reading.
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 11, 2009 9:13:21 GMT
Same here Stafford. I think the whole situation is self explanatory. Kitson came to pursue premier league football after Readings fall from grace but as i see it, was never given a fair crack of the whip. When we signed him, he said in an interview that he had spoken to his dad about the move who had said "I didn't drive you to training and matches over the years to sit on a bench". I don't think Kitson ever expected things to turn out like they have. 7 wasted months at this stage of his career must be soul destroying for him. He wasn't getting played so he got frustrated and his head dropped. Swings and roundabouts. I don't buy into the 'attitude' debate either. Fuller has had some stinking cob ons but we've forgiven them as he has produced some spectacular performances. I wish the lad well. All the best Kits
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 11, 2009 9:23:27 GMT
Speak for your self. I thought it was a wank signing. I never forgave the qunt for moaning about us giving him stick for being a ginge when he played for Reading.
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Post by boothenbus on Mar 11, 2009 9:27:32 GMT
I wanted him to do well for us but he didn't.
Can't help feeling he was a bit too...royal for us?
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Post by lew86 on Mar 11, 2009 10:12:18 GMT
Shame he was never this passionate about us.
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Post by miffmister on Mar 11, 2009 10:20:57 GMT
Kitson may not have scored for us but to say he was bone or did not try is not factual. I have watched him live whilst I've had a few beers and he appears to be not trying. But when watched again on the pc he worked his bollox off in all the games he played despite being played out of position. I'm by far not his biggest fan but BE HONEST GUYS!!!
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Post by lew86 on Mar 11, 2009 10:22:39 GMT
He did try at the start of the season, then when he came back from injury, he seemed to get less interested as games went by.
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Post by miffmister on Mar 11, 2009 10:28:44 GMT
I still feel that with Ethers and Lenny putting the ball in from wide area and playing Kitson up alongside BT he would have scored goals for us.
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Post by lew86 on Mar 11, 2009 10:30:52 GMT
Too little too late mate, even then I couldnt see it happening.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 11, 2009 10:55:33 GMT
Not often I agree with the cup hating ukyestony but you are right mate....he is still a Stoke player until he signs for someone else...the level of abuse against him is bizarre to say the least....come on boys vent your anger in a more constructive way.
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Post by suttontiger on Mar 11, 2009 10:59:20 GMT
Some of you really are pathetic. It doesn't seem 2 minutes ago that Kitson was being hailed as the new messiah, I've never seen such hype over a signing, and now you talk of him as though he's the shit on your shoes. Some incredibly juvenile and thoughtless comments on this thread. Kitson has been a disappointment for you, but he doesn't deserve this crap, some of you need to grow up.
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Post by lew86 on Mar 11, 2009 11:21:25 GMT
I think people (myself included) feel that they can release the frustration theyve had with Dave now that we are seeing the back of him.
"kits will come good"
"once he gets that one goal"
Think people are frustrated that we believed in the lad and he didnt deliver.
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Post by vestanpance on Mar 11, 2009 12:16:01 GMT
I think it's been a disaster on all fronts.
It makes a mockery of Pulis' scouting operations, and this "2000 phone calls" wank...Kitson never wanted to leave Reading and patently would never fit into our style of play, yet he's cost a fucking fortune..really, who is to blame here? the player, who given a proper run in a team that plays to his strengths will score goals, or the manager who pays over £5 million for a player and then plays him completely our of position?
I don't think Kitson comes out of this smelling of roses, my limited, i understand he isn't exactly Mr Popular at the training ground and his constant harping back to Berkshire United was at best ill-advised, at worst it was vomit inducing (particularly what he said about Sonko, i could have kicked his arse for that) but wishing him harm is nonsense.
Like Tonge, Olofinjana, Soares, Davies & Kelly, Kitson has suffered from a manager who throws money about like confetti, then either expects those players to either play out of position, or not play at all. Kitson hasn't covered himself in glory over this, but Pulis wants his fucking arse kicking over it and whatever happens come the end of the season, i'd be surprised if Pulis is given the free reign he has enjoyed this season when it comes to transfers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 12:23:33 GMT
Vestan,
Pulis has also brought in Whelan, Sorensen, Abdoualye Faye, Beattie, Higgy. Shawcross, Fuller, Etherington, Mama, Lawrence, Delap etc etc.
I have voiced my grievances and concerns over some of his signings (Tonge, Soares, Oli, Sonko etc) but lets not lose sight of our overall improvement under Tone and some of the excellent acquisitions he has made.
I’m not a rimmer but I am allowed to be Pro-Pulis whilst having certain criticisms too.
WD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 12:27:27 GMT
I think it's been a disaster on all fronts. It makes a mockery of Pulis' scouting operations, and this "2000 phone calls" wank...Kitson never wanted to leave Reading and patently would never fit into our style of play, yet he's cost a fucking fortune..really, who is to blame here? the player, who given a proper run in a team that plays to his strengths will score goals, or the manager who pays over £5 million for a player and then plays him completely our of position? I don't think Kitson comes out of this smelling of roses, my limited, i understand he isn't exactly Mr Popular at the training ground and his constant harping back to Berkshire United was at best ill-advised, at worst it was vomit inducing (particularly what he said about Sonko, i could have kicked his arse for that) but wishing him harm is nonsense. Like Tonge, Olofinjana, Soares, Davies & Kelly, Kitson has suffered from a manager who throws money about like confetti, then either expects those players to either play out of position, or not play at all. Kitson hasn't covered himself in glory over this, but Pulis wants his fucking arse kicking over it and whatever happens come the end of the season, i'd be surprised if Pulis is given the free reign he has enjoyed this season when it comes to transfers. Like you say, I think both are to blame. At the time, very few of us thought it would turn out to be a bad signing. Your point about scouting is a good one - why we spent so much money on a player only to play him in a position to which he wasn't accustomed is absolutely bizarre. The player deserves a share of the blame as well - for one of the supposedly "intelligent" footballers out there, he did't even come close to adapting to the way we play, and some of the onus was very much on him to do so. We've spunked a lot of money on chaff and that needs looking at, especially if we're relegated. The only slightly mitigating circumstances are that I think we panicked - I believe we struggled to attract players amid media hysteria that we'd be "doing a Derby" - now we've shown we can compete, we've been able to attract a better standard of player - all three promoted clubs dropped a few bollocks with transfers over the summer becuase of this panic frenzy. Still, there's no excuse for some of them - £3m on the useless Olofinjana, £1.5m on aright back/centre back who never plays etc.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2009 12:29:16 GMT
Can I just add, for the sake of clarity, he was wank and I pray he's gone for good.
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Post by stokelad84 on Mar 11, 2009 12:33:36 GMT
If you spend a lot of money on a new striker then he should be the focal point of the attack!
But no matter what he did, Pulis's neighbour Fuller was always the main man! Would Kitson be straight back in the team if he had slapped Griff? I dont think so!!!
He knew from day 1 that Fuller was the favourite and no matter what he did, he wouldnt be the main man in attack.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 11, 2009 12:33:37 GMT
Can I just add, for the sake of clarity, he was wank and I pray he's gone for good. It helps if you see players play live before passing comment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 12:35:37 GMT
If you spend a lot of money on a new striker then he should be the focal point of the attack! But no matter what he did, Pulis's neighbour Fuller was always the main man! Would Kitson be straight back in the team if he had slapped Griff? I dont think so!!! He knew from day 1 that Fuller was the favourite and no matter what he did, he wouldnt be the main man in attack. Fuller has generally proven himself worthy of that role though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2009 12:38:24 GMT
I have been party to several of his 'performances' SS and he was shit. You only have to look at James Beattie's form, attitude and general demeanour to realise just how shit he is/was for us.
You have the Pulis tolerating jizzsacks, making excuses for him but the facts remain the same. We are all Reading fans now.
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Post by RAF on Mar 11, 2009 12:52:35 GMT
Momo, I hate to say it, but you are sounding more like Scholes every day. H
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Post by lew86 on Mar 11, 2009 12:55:08 GMT
If you spend a lot of money on a new striker then he should be the focal point of the attack! But no matter what he did, Pulis's neighbour Fuller was always the main man! Would Kitson be straight back in the team if he had slapped Griff? I dont think so!!! He knew from day 1 that Fuller was the favourite and no matter what he did, he wouldnt be the main man in attack. I dont think thats got a single thing to do with Fuller getting back into the squad so quickly (over Kits). Ric was always going to be essential to our strike force, whether he slapped Griff, sparked up at half time or raped Pulis' dog. I'm not saying it was right, not by any means, but he helped in getting us here, and we need him. i actually agree with Sheik, remember Beattie initially said way before the transfer, he was Sheffield through and through, and would stay there for the rest of his career. Kits seems to hold Reading in the same Grace. Beatts has worked his fucking bollocks off for us from day one, whether he wanted to be here or not. Kitson hasnt.
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Post by RAF on Mar 11, 2009 13:00:43 GMT
That's pretty much true, but BT had Ethers as soon as he arrived putting in good balls for him immediately, and he has never been made to play just infront of midfield in the 'MAMA' role either. Maybe if he had, then he would have become as frustrated as Kitson. It's one thing we will never know for sure and as it has turned out Beattie has been immense, and we are saying goodbye to Kitson. So be it. It looks like it's all going to turn out for the best, I just wish Kitson had been as good as his price tag. Oh well, onwards and upwards.
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Post by Block 22 on Mar 11, 2009 13:06:24 GMT
I dont know how people can say he tried at all. He strolled around the pitch like it was his god given right to be in the premiership, he wanted about 29 years on the ball, he attempted fancy flickys that NEVER worked, his passing was woeful and he just didnt try in general.
Sutton Tiger. I bet a few of your fans gave 'Geo' abit of stick, when he had a tantrum, and gave Phil Brown abit of stick when he made the comment about wanting 'Geo' to fail his drugs test. Just like us giving Kitson abit of stick cos' hes a lazy bastard!
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Post by pez75 on Mar 11, 2009 13:08:51 GMT
Not sad to see him go, but all of the vitriol on here is a bit unnecessary.
If blame has to be dished out, surely its the person who spunked over £5m on the flop who should be on the receiving end?
Although the "he would never fit our style of play" excuses are bollocks too - he is hardly Lionel Messi FFS.
ST - fuck off you patronising twat. Saying that, you should know all about being disappointed with overhyped signings...
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Post by Bick on Mar 11, 2009 13:10:07 GMT
I dont really hold a grudge. Hope he does well.
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Post by lordb on Mar 11, 2009 13:13:40 GMT
Kitson hasnt said anything negative towards Stoke on that link.
whats the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 13:14:08 GMT
to be honest i think we just spent £5mill on a player who never really wanted to play for Stoke he just wanted to play in the Prem and saw us as a good shop window. Could have been alright but i never saw why TP was so pleased to get him then never played him and got 2 other strikers in January??!! I think any heart he had went when he realised he'd actually have to earn his place but having said that it is confusing that one of the reasons he apparently came was because TP had told him the kind of other players he was tring to get and that convinced him. Surely telling him "Fuller will be no.1 choice along with Cresswell until we get Beattie and Camara"
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Mar 11, 2009 13:21:40 GMT
Can I just add, for the sake of clarity, he was wank and I pray he's gone for good. Nail on head son!!!!
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