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Post by mumf14 on Mar 5, 2009 22:31:05 GMT
To go down by the majority of Bookies... I just can't quite understand their reasoning... We have one of the easiest run-ins and one of the best home records. In Fuller and Beattie I would also suggest the best strike partnerships outside the top 10 at least. Alan Shearer even thinks Newcastle will go down !! What do we have to do for Christs sake..!  West Brom, Middlesborough and Newcastle, and I can see the Boro chairman panicking soon and getting rid of Southgate..? |
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 5, 2009 22:34:02 GMT
Pulis is learning. Shawcross is learning. Whelan is learning. They'll be next  |
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Post by stokiemama14 on Mar 5, 2009 22:34:56 GMT
my life the bloody bookies! all the stoke players know we can do it and i also think most of the fans do too and to me thats all that matters our players will fight to the very last game of the season and run their backsides off for the remaining 10 games! so fuck the bookies and lets prove them wrong! GOARNN STOKE  |
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Post by PickSCFC on Mar 5, 2009 22:35:34 GMT
We are new to the league dont forget and it is so tight at the bottom and we havent won away yet
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Post by Tubes on Mar 5, 2009 22:35:46 GMT
West Brom and Boro nailed on. Final spot is between Stoke, Blackburn, Newcastle and Hull. Maybe even Pompey although I think they will probably be alright.
I've said for a long time Newcastle are too good to go down but I'm not so sure any more.
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Post by PickSCFC on Mar 5, 2009 22:36:42 GMT
West Brom and Boro nailed on. Final spot is between Stoke, Blackburn, Newcastle and Hull. Maybe even Pompey although I think they will probably be alright. I've said for a long time Newcastle are too good to go down but I'm not so sure any more. People said that about Leeds |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 5, 2009 22:37:46 GMT
What did TP say last week????
Nobody outside of Stoke thinks we can do it but the fans, players and everyone at the club know we can.
Spot on TP. ;D
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2009 22:42:34 GMT
I've said all along that Newcastle WILL go down and I am more confident than ever! As for the bookies, can't blame them for persisting with us. Just make it all the sweeter when they are proved wrong.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 5, 2009 22:45:12 GMT
So get some money on for us to stay up.! Odds must be good . Fuck em hit em where it hurts!
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Post by rorymscfc on Mar 5, 2009 22:49:05 GMT
Pulis is learning. Shawcross is learning. Whelan is learning. They'll be next You forgot Wilko - the lad gets better every game! Seriously though, let the experts carry on. They live in a "big 4" shaped bubble and I will only start worrying when we dip below evens! I have never doubted that we would stay up - I always said that I have more faith in Pulis keeping us up than I ever had in him getting us up in the first place! We Are Stoke! RoryM |
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 5, 2009 22:50:04 GMT
In a strange sort of way it could take the pressure off us....?
Don't you think..?
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Post by chessyorkshirexile on Mar 5, 2009 22:55:19 GMT
If we beat Middlesbourgh, West Brom, Blackburn, Hull and Newcastle we will be safe.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 5, 2009 22:55:23 GMT
In a strange sort of way it could take the pressure off us....? Don't you think..? I agree, and I guess the odds are based on GD and the statistical history of newly-promoted teams going back down as much as anything. Doesn't bother me at all, I can't imagine Tone and the lads are losing sleep either. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2009 22:56:14 GMT
Yes. I would hate the bookies to all start tipping us to stay up.
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Post by trend....... on Mar 5, 2009 22:56:21 GMT
We will prove the bastards wrong.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2009 22:58:15 GMT
Remember: we were hotly tipped to go down from the CCC last season
BLOODY GOOD AT IT AREN'T THEY?
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 5, 2009 23:00:10 GMT
Pulis is learning. Shawcross is learning. Whelan is learning. They'll be next You forgot Wilko - the lad gets better every game! Seriously though, let the experts carry on. They live in a "big 4" shaped bubble and I will only start worrying when we dip below evens! I have never doubted that we would stay up - I always said that I have more faith in Pulis keeping us up than I ever had in him getting us up in the first place! We Are Stoke! RoryM You're right - Soz Wilko  It just keeps getting better ;D |
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Post by trebor63 on Mar 5, 2009 23:07:43 GMT
The odds at the bookies often reflects where punters are putting their money as opposed to what they may think will happen. People with no real understanding or knowledge of football will read the names of Stoke and Hull and they'll barely recognise them in Premiership terms so will lean towards us. With Hulls (brilliant) win last night and the confidence it'll bring I think the odds are that they have an incredibly good chance of survival but the bookies still have them as having a good chance of relegation. Those of us that bet with more knowledge than many others shouldn't worry about it we should simply take their money off them!  |
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Post by premierpotters08 on Mar 5, 2009 23:10:36 GMT
i think well stay up but even if we are down by arsenal i still think the team will put all their efforts in out team has got what it takes to be a top side one day this is now the backbone for the future i really think we can be a Aston villa one day i really do.
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 5, 2009 23:12:24 GMT
The odds at the bookies often reflects where punters are putting their money as opposed to what they may think will happen. People with no real understanding or knowledge of football will read the names of Stoke and Hull and they'll barely recognise them in Premiership terms so will lean towards us. With Hulls (brilliant) win last night and the confidence it'll bring I think the odds are that they have an incredibly good chance of survival but the bookies still have them as having a good chance of relegation. Those of us that bet with more knowledge than many others shouldn't worry about it we should simply take their money off them! There speaks the mind of a gambler |
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Post by prem4stoke on Mar 5, 2009 23:13:21 GMT
If we beat Middlesbourgh, West Brom, Blackburn, Hull and Newcastle we will be safe. I should think so  That would put us on 44 points! i would think another 4 wins would see us safe easily never mind 5 wins and it doesn't need to be those five teams either. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 5, 2009 23:23:22 GMT
Crikey second favourites to go down. Those bookies are slowly waking up and smelling the coffee.
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2009 23:24:10 GMT
3 wins and 2 draws would leave us tantalisingly close to safety. 4 wins could well be enough.
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Post by markscfc72 on Mar 5, 2009 23:26:52 GMT
dont forget the odds arent just based on the likelyhood of the event happening but also what losses they are likely to encounter and also how much they have already taken on that selection
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Post by BuzzB on Mar 5, 2009 23:30:43 GMT
Bet 365,
to be relegated 10/11
to stay up 4/5
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 5, 2009 23:31:25 GMT
Knowlesy was on Setanta the other night...in discussion with Steve Claridge.
He made some good points only for Claridge after the conversion ended, to add that he thought that Stoke would be 51/49 in his opinion of one of those going down...
Well done Knowlesy...I heard you loud and clear.!
Pity Claridge didn't.!
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Post by trebor63 on Mar 5, 2009 23:34:11 GMT
The odds at the bookies often reflects where punters are putting their money as opposed to what they may think will happen. People with no real understanding or knowledge of football will read the names of Stoke and Hull and they'll barely recognise them in Premiership terms so will lean towards us. With Hulls (brilliant) win last night and the confidence it'll bring I think the odds are that they have an incredibly good chance of survival but the bookies still have them as having a good chance of relegation. Those of us that bet with more knowledge than many others shouldn't worry about it we should simply take their money off them! There speaks the mind of a gambler Guilty as charged ;D |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 6, 2009 0:28:13 GMT
Why do you care what the bookies think?
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Post by staying up for spectrum potter on Mar 6, 2009 0:52:56 GMT
I used the £50 free bet that paddy poofters gave away on us to beat the drop, which will make it all the sweeter should we do so!
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 6, 2009 1:24:14 GMT
I think the bottom line is this... We exceeded their expectations to get here in the first place, and now that we are here, the powers that be want to restore their sense of pride by predicting our demise. Remember how Tarzan used to beat his chest...?  |
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That would put us on 44 points! i would think another 4 wins would see us safe easily never mind 5 wins and it doesn't need to be those five teams either.
