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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 5, 2009 12:11:58 GMT
To stay up this season I think. Other years Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have dropped fewer points than they have this year. Also there as been one team that is way a drift at the foot of the table. And usually there is not so many teams in the relegation dog fight.
Thoughts.
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Post by monsoonmoon on Mar 5, 2009 12:14:02 GMT
I reckon we'll get about, possibly more than, 42.
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Post by gonzo on Mar 5, 2009 12:15:40 GMT
I agree we may need more than the 'predicted' 36 or so many pundits have suggested. I'm not sure how many points it will take as you mentioned there is so many teams scrapping it out. However our great home form and a decent last few games should keep us up!
Goooarn Stoke!!
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Mar 5, 2009 12:22:57 GMT
Just looking at our remaining fixtures, we could be on 44 prior to Arsenal game. It may seem a lot, but its not impossible.
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Post by Targaryen Stokie on Mar 5, 2009 12:24:20 GMT
Well I was harsh on our run when I predicted it and we ended up with 45 points, I still think 40 will be enough though. Arsenal will start to pick up their game now having nearly caught up with Villa, Liverpool and Chelsea will have a "must win" feel to all of their games now to keep the pressure on United, and well United look like they're just going to carry on winning and winning.
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Post by vestanpance on Mar 5, 2009 12:25:56 GMT
I think we'll need 41.
I also think that we might get them.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 5, 2009 12:26:29 GMT
To stay up this season I think. Other years Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have dropped fewer points than they have this year. Also there as been one team that is way a drift at the foot of the table. And usually there is not so many teams in the relegation dog fight. Thoughts. If you look at the run in for the teams around us i reckon if we get 36 plus it might just be ok.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Mar 5, 2009 12:35:04 GMT
I don't think you're far wrong your lordship. The sheer number of clubs who could get dragged into the mix is a help - but the flipside is that if no single one of them really has a disastrous collapse of form and manages 2-3 wins, it could push the total required higher than 40. I think 44 is the highest it will need, and 40 the lowest. The last day of the season is going to abe a SSN pundit's dream - the table will change with every goal scored. Roll on may 24th...
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Post by truckerged on Mar 5, 2009 12:36:27 GMT
well done lord i knew you wouldnt let us down after another shocking performance from stoke last night! just one thing thou if arsenal chelsea and liverpool drop any more points?this is the reason that the shit will win the title the afformentioned teams have been dropping points left right and centre
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Post by kevkj on Mar 5, 2009 12:40:59 GMT
Anything above 38 will definitely keep you up.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 5, 2009 12:43:34 GMT
well done lord i knew you wouldnt let us down after another shocking performance from stoke last night! just one thing thou if arsenal chelsea and liverpool drop any more points?this is the reason that the shit will win the title the afformentioned teams have been dropping points left right and centre What on earth are you on about? Are you on drugs my good man? I have not moaned about our performance last night. Far from it I have congratulated the team on another post. Flip me you even try to find a negative in a post that is just saying that 40 points may not be enough. It does not say I don't think we will get 40, It does not say we have got no chance of getting 40 plus points. Its says " Its going to take more than 40 points to stay up!!!!!" You clot!!
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Post by dexter97 on Mar 5, 2009 12:44:38 GMT
To stay up this season I think. Other years Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have dropped fewer points than they have this year. Also there as been one team that is way a drift at the foot of the table. And usually there is not so many teams in the relegation dog fight. Thoughts. Earlier in the season (in fact as recently as January) I thought that it might take as many as 42 points to assure safety. The way things are panning-out now, I think 40 will easily be enough. Brazil are as good as down. Of the remaining protagonists, I think there will be at least two of them that fail to pick up more than another ten points.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Mar 5, 2009 12:58:24 GMT
i reckon itll only take 37 or 38 personally. can't see wba picking up more than 6 points (28), boro may get up to 10 (36) and i reckon newcastle will get 8 or so (36)
not that itll matter cus wins against boro, newcastle and either wigan, west ham or blackburn will see us on 38 - thats not even counting wba, fulham and dull away.
personally i reckon we'll get 4 wins out of boro, west ham, newcastle, blackburn and wigan at home and at least a point from wba, dull or everton away - putting us on 42 and mid table mediocrity - WOO-HOO!!!
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Post by stokebill on Mar 5, 2009 13:01:35 GMT
There was the thought that 43 would be the cut off point a little while ago, but I can't see it now. I reckon anything above 38 should be enough (although there's no way I'd settle for 39 points if offered today!) Bolton are mid table and averaging 1.17pts per game. Even though all teams in the bottom half are capable of getting a result, I can't see that there won't be 3 sides amongst them who will have a poor finish to the season (poor means maintaining their current points ratio in some cases) and average around a point per game, especially with the run in's a lot of them have. I'm probably wrong though and want us to aim for 45. This predicted table has 6 teams on 39 or below (including us!) stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/runin.html
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Post by Tubes on Mar 5, 2009 13:08:07 GMT
Could do with Arsenal either slumping totally or bucking their game up so that 4th spot isn't an issue ont he last day of the season. Last thing we need is for them to need a result going into the last game if we aint safe!
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 5, 2009 13:13:19 GMT
Could do with Arsenal either slumping totally or bucking their game up so that 4th spot isn't an issue ont he last day of the season. Last thing we need is for them to need a result going into the last game if we aint safe! They will be out to teach us a lesson after we pulled a number on them at our place. It won't matter if they are already in the champions league or not
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Post by dexter97 on Mar 5, 2009 13:13:52 GMT
Interesting to see how Wigwam's form has suffered. On current form they're predicted to finish on the same number of points as us.
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Post by lordb on Mar 5, 2009 13:26:55 GMT
I've done the BBC predictor League 3 times this week (putting different results each time) & each time 38 points is enough.
one go I had M'boro third bottom on 32 points.
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Post by chinesedave on Mar 5, 2009 13:41:23 GMT
To stay up this season I think. Other years Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have dropped fewer points than they have this year. Also there as been one team that is way a drift at the foot of the table. And usually there is not so many teams in the relegation dog fight. Thoughts. If offered 40pts as a final tally I would snap your hand off right this very second m'lord. 40 will see us safe...
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 5, 2009 14:03:47 GMT
To stay up this season I think. Other years Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have dropped fewer points than they have this year. Also there as been one team that is way a drift at the foot of the table. And usually there is not so many teams in the relegation dog fight. Thoughts. I've seen this argument a thousand times on here but I've yet to hear anyone explain why the fact that more teams are involved, or that there's nobody cut adrift, will mean that more points will be needed. The logic is not obvious...can you help lord?
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Post by shiny nosehair on Mar 5, 2009 14:07:22 GMT
38 points will do the job me reckons
With the run ins a lot of the teams have round the bottom I can't see many teams picking up points at all
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Post by stokie716 on Mar 5, 2009 14:51:21 GMT
couldnt think about anything other than how many points we will need last night,woke up at least 6 times in the night with a different figure in my head,going with 41.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 5, 2009 14:55:19 GMT
couldnt think about anything other than how many points we will need last night,woke up at least 6 times in the night with a different figure in my head,going with 41. Why 41? That many has only been necessary twice in the history of the Prem.
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 5, 2009 15:06:44 GMT
Surely when more clubs are involved the threshold will be lower wont it?
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Post by th05 on Mar 5, 2009 15:09:02 GMT
I think 40 will do it.
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