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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2009 10:32:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 17, 2009 10:38:27 GMT
no surprise
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Post by abboscfc on Feb 17, 2009 10:40:49 GMT
what must are liam be thinking he's been fit enough to do an hour on the pitch for a while now but had no pitch time.
And now sidibe is back he's going straight back in to the team no sitting on the bench for weeks
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 17, 2009 10:46:37 GMT
No surprise but why not start with Kitson and beattie....potentially a stronger goal threat than Mama who will not be match sharp.With mama back i can also see a midfiled of Oli/Faye Whelan Diao Cresswell.No need for wide men...lord help us!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2009 10:47:44 GMT
Lou's done an article in todays Sentinel saying that there definitely won't be an agenda from TP about Liam but the one thing I do find strange is that the line that's been thrown about when Diao and now Mama get put straight back in, is how naturally fit they are.
I was always under the impression that Liam was one of, if not the fittest lad at the club and always wasted the bleep tests?
Personally I think the game will come too soon for Mama though and TP will leave him on the bench, Liam has to play (and about time) as we don't have any option anyway, Diao may well start as well, so I doubt TP would risk 3 players returning from injury would he?
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Post by dexter97 on Feb 17, 2009 10:48:12 GMT
So, could we be looking at:
Sorensen
Kelly - Faye - Shawcross - Higgy
Liam - Diao - Whelan - Camara
Mama - BT
Simo
Griff / Wilko
Sonko
Pugh
Faye / George
Kitson
Cresswell
However, don't ask me why, but I've a niggling suspicion that Cressy will start!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2009 10:49:10 GMT
So, could we be looking at: Sorensen Kelly - Faye - Shawcross - Higgy Liam - Diao - Whelan - Camara Mama - BT Simo Griff / Wilko Sonko Pugh Faye / George Kitson Cresswell However, don't ask me why, but I've a niggling suspicion that Cressy will start! Could be right mate, I'd definitely expect to see Cress play wide left again. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2009 10:50:16 GMT
I can't see Camara starting on the left wing. The right wing possibly, with Liam on the left.
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Post by Norfolkstokie in manchester on Feb 17, 2009 10:53:45 GMT
Will Shawcross definetely be fit to play? Not heard much about his injury...
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Post by dexter97 on Feb 17, 2009 10:59:24 GMT
Will Shawcross definetely be fit to play? Not heard much about his injury... Not sure. Didn't somebody post something about everyone bar Fuller being back in training? ??? |
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Post by Peters Pipe on Feb 17, 2009 11:43:03 GMT
Pulis said: “The big fella is a naturally fit lad, not to mention immensely strong, and so he comes into quicker consideration than most players.”
I think that's called getting your excuses in early isn't it? ;D
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 17, 2009 11:48:04 GMT
Wingers will have to be two from Lawrence, Pugh and Cresswell I would have thought. There's no way Camara will get a start on the wing unless Pulis is convinced that he will work 'ard and track back the entire game, although being black and built like a brick shit house should help his cause.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 17, 2009 11:48:32 GMT
Not sure about a Mama-Beattie front 2.
As well as Mama does when the gameplan is for everything (including the kitchen sink) to go through him, I think I'd still go with Beattie-Camara.
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Post by th05 on Feb 17, 2009 11:51:40 GMT
Quite right, Mama plays - we get results.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 11:55:54 GMT
Hahaha it's possible to have 4 strikers on the bench at this rate
Starters - mama, BT
bench - Camara, Fuller, Kitson and Cresswell.
Arguably two of those can play on the wing.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2009 11:56:13 GMT
I'd go with BT and Camara as well.
Fact is Camara is fully fit and ready to go and I can't honestly see that BT and Mama will make an effective pairing. BT likes to drop deep and link up, so you could have a scenario where BT and Mama get in each others way a bit.
We definitely need an out ball as well; with both Ric and Ethers missing, Camara would get the nod from the start for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 12:02:33 GMT
As much as I love Mama, Beattie is a goalscoring version of him imo.
I just dont think those two will work well together. Has to be BT and Camara for me.
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 17, 2009 12:24:29 GMT
if fuller was fit and in favour then i'd bring mama back in and play them together because they have played with each other for a few years, and know each others movements. However, with Beattie in good form i think he has to start, and like mentioned above, i think mama and BT would not work because they bot tend to drop deep. So im going for Beattie and Camara to start in an ideal world, but i think TP will go for BT and Mama, without wingers i fear 90mins of hoofball  |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 17, 2009 12:30:33 GMT
I think the problem with Lawrence is that his pace is not good enough in the Prem. and he struggles to get past his marker, but we could use his dead ball skills sometimes.
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Post by crimesy on Feb 17, 2009 12:33:37 GMT
good. We he only won one game since his injury. This bloke is more important than some on here realise. If i remember correctly he missed 5 games last year of which we lost 3 and drew 2.
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Post by stone6 on Feb 17, 2009 12:42:00 GMT
So, could we be looking at: Sorensen Kelly - Faye - Shawcross - Higgy Liam - Diao - Whelan - Camara Mama - BT Simo Griff / Wilko Sonko Pugh Faye / George Kitson Cresswell However, don't ask me why, but I've a niggling suspicion that Cressy will start! Could be right mate, I'd definitely expect to see Cress play wide left again. Creswell will definately start, i have a funny feeling it'll be on the right with Pugh on the left. |
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Post by serpico on Feb 17, 2009 12:42:50 GMT
surly after Camara making a song and dance about moving to stoke to get first team football he will be given a start and his home debut ?
I'd Imagine we'll start with Camara and Beattie and bring Mama on late on, depending on the score. Although that said, Pulis might want to have someone who can compete in the air against the likes of Campbell and Herman what's his name.
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 17, 2009 12:46:55 GMT
TP will want to keep it tight, and will not risk playing an attacking player like Camara from the start. I expect Mama, Beattie, and Cressy all to start.
It's not as if this is a must win game is it?
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Post by Bick on Feb 17, 2009 12:48:59 GMT
Fantastic: But do feel for liam
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 17, 2009 12:52:50 GMT
It will be good to have him included, just if nothing else to give confidence as we've been crap since he limped off.
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Post by serpico on Feb 17, 2009 12:59:15 GMT
TP will want to keep it tight, and will not risk playing an attacking player like Camara from the start. I expect Mama, Beattie, and Cressy all to start. It's not as if this is a must win game is it? Camara will play the Fuller role though won't he ? . |
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Post by prawnsandwich on Feb 17, 2009 13:00:54 GMT
think tp will start with mama and beattie, cressy seems to get in the side no matter ay ! nice to see camara do home debut, but who really knows what team will start, its so hard to predict.
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Post by apb1 on Feb 17, 2009 13:04:31 GMT
I think we should start him. He might not be 100% but the quicker he gets to it the better so we can start winning.
Beattie is a much more subtle player than Mama and plays well in the box - Mama needs an hour with Beats then bring Camara and/or Kitson on.
If Lawrence does not start the game then I will be surprised if he ever plays for us again, which is a terrible pity. Unfortunately I fear Pugh on the left and Cressie on the right may be the line up...
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2009 13:14:11 GMT
My take on it is that Mama has done really well for us but to think that it's because of him we win games doesn't stand up on it's own.
People say that Ric only plays well when Mama plays but I would also suggest Mama only plays well when Ric plays.
Mama clearly does a lot of donkey work for Ric but it is Ric who gets on the end (a lot of the time anyway) of Mama's unpredictable flick-ons.
In all honesty I couldn't see any other striker we have getting on the end of them as often it's only Ric's pace that gets him there.
I see where people are coming from on the "Mama must play" mantra but I honestly believe that its the sum total of the partnership that makes it work for us.
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Post by march4 on Feb 17, 2009 13:20:03 GMT
Wonder how many of you will still want to see Camara after a couple of games. The grass is always greener attitude clearly didn't see him at Sunderland where Camara did a passable impression of Cressers when he plays up front.
Kelly was dreadful against Sunderland and so I watched the Ireland game to see his true form. If anything he was even worse. Spoke to a Birmingham fan on Saturday, who thought Kelly had left them in the summer as he was their boo boy last season.
Lets hope Mama is fit, as we play better as a team with him in the side. I would have Beattie in the team with him and Lawrence on the right. I can't see any alternative on the left from Cresswell. Tonge has been so poor it is unbelievable - Sheff Utd fans warned us his best days are behind him.
At the back, lets hope Higgy is fit with Griff on the right if Kelly is still not match fit as the Sentinel is claiming today.
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