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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 16, 2009 11:24:14 GMT
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Post by Stokester on Feb 16, 2009 12:05:46 GMT
Great read.
Have to agree that I rarely watch 'The CHampionship' anymore, the difference in the level of football is HUGE!
When it really hit me that we were a Premiership club was when I was able to play as Stoke on pro-evo!
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Post by white wall boy on Feb 16, 2009 12:27:40 GMT
The Championship sucks heaven forbid we have to endure anymore of that rubbish ! just watching 10 mins of the championship makes you realise what a battlefield most games become with very little football or indeed quality. Reading and Swansea seem the only teams who try to knock it about, the rest concentrate on knocking each other about !
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Post by Will_75 on Feb 16, 2009 12:32:33 GMT
the final third? EEK, we never seem to find that little bit of luck in the final third
we're DOOMED
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 16, 2009 12:43:54 GMT
The Premier League is both the best and most detestable place on earth. It is summed up by that sneering, 80 or 90 minutes of highlights on the BBC on a Saturday evening. You can't miss it but it is as vile, biased and condescending piece of filth as you're ever likely to witness. Rather like the league itself.
I don't ever want to go back there but I would stop short about sneering at the championship. It has an honesty the Premier League can only dream about and its main draw back is the parachute money floated in from it's odious big brother in the first place.
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Post by vestanpance on Feb 16, 2009 12:47:57 GMT
Momo is spot on.
The Premier League is like paying for a high class prozzie. It's better than anything you ever thought you would pull, but the money involved makes it dirty.
I hate it and love it at the same time.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 16, 2009 12:49:24 GMT
The Championship sucks heaven forbid we have to endure anymore of that rubbish ! just watching 10 mins of the championship makes you realise what a battlefield most games become with very little football or indeed quality. Reading and Swansea seem the only teams who try to knock it about, the rest concentrate on knocking each other about ! Whereas Wigan v Fulham on a Wednesday night is akin to Brazil v Italy 1970. Our own team play a negative physical game ffs. As a spectacle the Premiership is good, technically outside of 2 or 3 teams it is poor. |
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 16, 2009 13:20:57 GMT
I don't want to go back, please Tony don't make me go back, please........
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 16, 2009 13:22:51 GMT
excellent piece by Smudge, couldnt have put it any better
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Post by The Occasional Man on Feb 16, 2009 13:41:32 GMT
Quote: 'And with Tottenham and Newcastle also very strong candidates to finally start getting their acts together'
Tottenham maybe . . . the geordies boys couldn't organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery lets see how the Monkey manages whilst the organ grinder ain't there - pretty certain they'll be somewhere very near if not in the bottom 3 come May.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 16, 2009 15:46:09 GMT
The Premier League is both the best and most detestable place on earth. It is summed up by that sneering, 80 or 90 minutes of highlights on the BBC on a Saturday evening. You can't miss it but it is as vile, biased and condescending piece of filth as you're ever likely to witness. Rather like the league itself. I don't ever want to go back there but I would stop short about sneering at the championship. It has an honesty the Premier League can only dream about and its main draw back is the parachute money floated in from it's odious big brother in the first place. The best kind of filth...enjoy and excoriate...at the same time..  |
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Feb 16, 2009 15:58:22 GMT
Interesting read.
With the uncertainty surrounding their manager & a very tricky fixture run-in I still think the Geordies will be in the mix though.
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Post by simplesi on Feb 16, 2009 17:55:12 GMT
sums it u very well....emphasises how much stokies everywhere need to be as one and get behind the lads just like we were when the following was released..
still brings tears!
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Post by stokemark on Feb 16, 2009 18:32:30 GMT
Football is a bastard
How can it be fair that we wait all these years for one season in the Prem when other clubs who are certainly no bigger or better seem to enjoy the prosperity and good fortune to stay there for many years.
Even worse is the fact that the majority of people who follow football NOT who support a team) have elected to follow the path of least resistance and latched onto a 'glory' team and will never have to go through the pain and igmony of relegation.
And that, perhaps, is what defines being a supporter above a follower as they are truly poles apart. Should we go down then I will be amongst the first to struggle for days, weeks and months to come to terms with it but I will also be there come August whoever and whereever we play.
We support Stoke City not football itself as in many ways that (certainly in England) has become a fat, egotistical slob of a sport that has forgotton its meaning and relevance.
Whilst the money swishes round and the leaches associated with the game (the media and journo's) continue to live a blood engorged life on the back of it we, as supporters of an unfashionable club like Stoke City, will feel marginalised in our most natural environment.
As I say, its a bastard, and all we can do is cheer on our team as much as we can because aside of that there is fuck all we can do about it.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Feb 16, 2009 18:43:48 GMT
great stuff smudge and stokemark!!!
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 16, 2009 20:31:49 GMT
we're not unfashionable, just old fashioned in a retro-cool kinda way
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 21:08:38 GMT
I still watch the championship fairly religously -its important not to forget your roots.
Also its frighteningly competitive and some teams are playing very attractive football superior to our own brand and presently being quite succesful at it (e.g swansea and burnley). Also, I would argue, quite a few of our future signings will still come from championship clubs so, its always wise to keep an eye on whats going on in there.
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This 'I hardly watch the championship anymore' smells rather badly to me, of the classic Premiership 'snobbery' I have also ALWAYS despised so much in other top flight clubs fans.
SO - Remember where we came from people !
IT HELPS US CELEBRATE OUR PRESENT STATUS EVEN MORE !
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Feb 16, 2009 21:23:10 GMT
Smudge has got is spot on again. This season has been brilliant so far and for us to stay up will be so so sweet. I for one will be like a dog with two dicks ;D Although having said that if we were to go down we will have gone down scrapping and proud to be a Potter and be in good shape to challenge for promotion back up next season. These are great days which have seen Stoke City FC back on the footballing map. The future is bright ...the futures Red & White  |
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Post by winger on Feb 16, 2009 22:09:04 GMT
These 10k extra punters we get every week now we're in the Prem - c/f let's say that crowd of 15k when we needed to beat Palace 3rd-last home game of last season - they're gloryhunters aren't they, they'll disappear if we go back down. What is the Official Position on these individuals?
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 16, 2009 22:45:30 GMT
For me, they're not quite gloryhunters. It's reclaiming the lost locals who've been tempted away. In the past, with crowds of 15,000, the 9k on top of the season ticket holders aren't the same people each week. There's probably > 28,000 different people who attended games last season.
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