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Post by ceejays on Feb 8, 2009 15:22:57 GMT
Any one know how many cards he is on ? When was the last time he was injured ? His continued inclusion just beggars belief. What must soares,tonge,lawrence and kitson think ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 8, 2009 15:25:45 GMT
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Post by kingdeano on Feb 8, 2009 15:25:50 GMT
why aint it ever cresswell that gets bloody injured?? it really pisses me off. no offence dicky, but your wank mate, when your team mates and fans say break a leg they dont mean it in luck, they actually fucking mean it!! so.... dicky, BREAK A LEG
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Post by hiyadad on Feb 8, 2009 15:30:33 GMT
he remains me a bit of todd carty from dancing on ice.however indifferent he plays, he still comes back every week!!
dont get me wrong, cressy comes over as a decent bloke,but....
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Post by StokeCityTillIDie on Feb 10, 2009 23:38:59 GMT
creswell is shit i agree, but i think he is a useful sub for when we are winning as he put pressure on the other team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 10, 2009 23:40:40 GMT
How has he managed 6 yellows? That's the sort of indiscipline that I don't get and what has continued from last season. Accumalations of pissing pointless yellow cards.
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Post by Gussie Fink-Nottle on Feb 11, 2009 1:28:05 GMT
I can't believe the moaning on here.
It's not as if we have a better alternative, Tonge is clearly shit, Lawrence isn't even fit, and i'd have Cresswell over pugh on the wing anyday.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 11, 2009 2:00:16 GMT
Good for You Mr Pulis!
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Post by Davef on Feb 11, 2009 8:12:41 GMT
You mean he doesn't run around as much as Cresswell?
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Post by Fern on Feb 11, 2009 10:36:45 GMT
I can't believe the moaning on here. It's not as if we have a better alternative, Tonge is clearly shit, Lawrence isn't even fit, and i'd have Cresswell over pugh on the wing anyday. What you on mate !? Cresswell is shocking and there are plenty more decent alternatives in our squad ! Tonge is better than Cresswell and surely even a close to full fitness lawrence is better !?
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Post by rabbigan on Feb 11, 2009 10:38:57 GMT
The Original Gussie Fink Nottle was a moron and it is good to see you are keeping up the good work.
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Post by knowles on Feb 11, 2009 10:40:55 GMT
I'm pretty sure we have a number of far better alternatives than Cresswell- even Griffin on the wing!
As for wanting him to break his leg though, that's just plain stupid.
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Post by wembley4372 on Feb 11, 2009 11:09:34 GMT
Come on guys, try not to be so personal and nasty. Step back and look at the broader picture.
TP brought a few players in but none of them has been able to take Cresswell's place from him.
The final player I would say has managed to do this and that is Etherington. But in the meantime Sidibe has a long term injury, Fuller gets himself sent off for something stupid and also through injury could well be out for the rest of the season. Delap and then Etherington both get sent of for stupid reasons at a time when we get a better run of fixtures coming up.
Just where is the end of the Cresswell tunnel? I would suspect that if Sidibe can regain his match fitness, Etherington and Delap finish their suspensions that unless Cresswell can actually play at right back we will see less of him, unless of course something happens to Beattie or Camara.
Lawrence may get his chance to prove that he can play at this level and has learnt the discipline to track back and not wander off out of position. I really hope he does do it and we could play with both Etherington and Lawrence. TP would then have selection problems and to paraphrase some curly haired twat "I would just love eeet" when that time comes.
Until that time comes I think we will still see Cresswell involved and I know a lot of you just think he runs around a lot but I think if you watch his involvement in the game albeit off the ball I think you will see a little more of why TP plays him.
The Oatcake can be a very negative place at times but if this is where it stays then I can live with that, because the atmosphere at the ground does not reflect this and especially against Man City it was incredible - OK we won but we didn't know that would be the result at the time.
Here's hoping for more of the same (with eleven men) on Saturday.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 11, 2009 11:48:21 GMT
I think there is a yellow card amnesty at the end of the month so it all starts again.
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Post by Gussie Fink-Nottle on Feb 11, 2009 11:56:56 GMT
I can't believe the moaning on here. It's not as if we have a better alternative, Tonge is clearly shit, Lawrence isn't even fit, and i'd have Cresswell over pugh on the wing anyday. What you on mate !? Cresswell is shocking and there are plenty more decent alternatives in our squad ! Tonge is better than Cresswell and surely even a close to full fitness lawrence is better !? Not really, I'd sooner play Cesswell than see a semi fit Lawrence and risk agrivating what is obviously a pretty bad injury, the last thing we need is him out for the rest of the season.
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Post by Davef on Feb 11, 2009 12:16:24 GMT
What makes you think Lawrence is semi-fit? Because he hasn't been involved in the first team for a while? Diao wasn't involved in the first team for two months, but came straight back, and Sidibe will be straight back into the team against Portsmouth.
And where have these doubts about Liam Lawrence's workrate and commitment come from? He was our best player last season, scored goals and provided plenty of assists. We are in a position now, especially away from home, where we need his vision and ability.
Going away from home with the emphasis on not losing and playing good, honest triers like Richard Cresswell has failed miserably. We have to be more positive and that means selecting creative players like Liam Lawrence.
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Post by knowles on Feb 11, 2009 12:25:48 GMT
What makes you think Lawrence is semi-fit? Because he hasn't been involved in the first team for a while? Diao wasn't involved in the first team for two months, but came straight back, and Sidibe will be straight back into the team against Portsmouth. Couldn't have put it better Dave. I just think back to Lawrence at Middlesbrough and that quality ball he put in which Hoyte bundled into his own goal. You can just imagine Beattie licking his lips at that type of delivery. We need Lawrence back- whatever has gone on between him and TP needs to be swept under the carpet. Now we are without Etherington, his place in the side is even more important.
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Post by Gussie Fink-Nottle on Feb 11, 2009 12:29:02 GMT
What makes you think Lawrence is semi-fit? Because he hasn't been involved in the first team for a while? Diao wasn't involved in the first team for two months, but came straight back, and Sidibe will be straight back into the team against Portsmouth. And where have these doubts about Liam Lawrence's workrate and commitment come from? He was our best player last season, scored goals and provided plenty of assists. We are in a position now, especially away from home, where we need his vision and ability. Going away from home with the emphasis on not losing and playing good, honest triers like Richard Cresswell has failed miserably. We have to be more positive and that means selecting creative players like Liam Lawrence. Pulis even said himself about a month ago, that Lawrence wasn't fully fit. There is absoloutlely no way he is 100% fit, he would be playing guarnteed if he was, it would take a complete and utter clueless buffoon not to play him if he was! It's not as if there's any decent alternative, which is why all these idiots should get off Cresswell's back.
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Post by Davef on Feb 11, 2009 12:43:12 GMT
Liam Lawrence clearly wasn't 100% fit at the start of the season following his summer surgery, but that didn't stop Pulis starting him against Aston Villa in our first home game and it didn't stop Lawrence setting up Fuller's equaliser with one of the passes of the season. Salif Diao wasn't 100% match fit at Sunderland, and neither will Mamma be when he comes back. Tell me, why is Salif Diao instantly selected for first team action after a two spell on the sidelines, but Lawrence has been getting splinters in his arse since Boxing Day after three months out?
The longer Cresswell is prefered to Lawrence in the team, the more suspicious fans are becoming that Tony Pulis is allowing personal differences to get in the way of what's best for the team. If Lawrence has overstepped the mark in any way then it should be dealt with accordingly, it should not become a personal issue that could threaten our place in this league.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 11, 2009 12:49:37 GMT
it would take a complete and utter clueless buffoon not to play him if he was! ;D
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Feb 11, 2009 12:49:43 GMT
What makes you think Lawrence is semi-fit? Because he hasn't been involved in the first team for a while? Diao wasn't involved in the first team for two months, but came straight back, and Sidibe will be straight back into the team against Portsmouth. And where have these doubts about Liam Lawrence's workrate and commitment come from? He was our best player last season, scored goals and provided plenty of assists. We are in a position now, especially away from home, where we need his vision and ability. Going away from home with the emphasis on not losing and playing good, honest triers like Richard Cresswell has failed miserably. We have to be more positive and that means selecting creative players like Liam Lawrence. Pulis even said himself about a month ago, that Lawrence wasn't fully fit. There is absoloutlely no way he is 100% fit, he would be playing guarnteed if he was, it would take a complete and utter clueless buffoon not to play him if he was! It's not as if there's any decent alternative, which is why all these idiots should get off Cresswell's back. the answer may be in there somewhere if you look closely
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Post by fromafar07 on Feb 11, 2009 12:52:51 GMT
amazing !! 6 yellow cards for a player who all he does is run up and down the pitch !! how ? how does he get them ??
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Post by pez75 on Feb 11, 2009 13:08:07 GMT
amazing !! 6 yellow cards for a player who all he does is run up and down the pitch !! how ? how does he get them ?? Because he is so wankingly slow, every tackle he makes is late.
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Post by th05 on Feb 11, 2009 13:15:03 GMT
Not being nasty, but lets hope it happens. ;D
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 11, 2009 13:19:12 GMT
I think we have to rule the fitness angle out. That happened when Pulis put Diao straight back in. There has to be something else.
SQ
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Post by bobafett on Feb 11, 2009 17:45:12 GMT
Wishing Injury on a stoke player when you claim to support them is a disgrace. Cresswell is a Stoke player doing his best for us so deserves respect and our support.
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Post by scfclifer on Feb 11, 2009 17:53:32 GMT
I think we have to rule the fitness angle out. That happened when Pulis put Diao straight back in. There has to be something else. SQ the dog story is bullshit that is the something else...pulis doesn't want to play him if he can help it because of it
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Post by Kirstendunstslovebubbles on Feb 11, 2009 17:59:50 GMT
Wishing Injury on a stoke player when you claim to support them is a disgrace. Cresswell is a Stoke player doing his best for us so deserves respect and our support. Completely agree. It's disgraceful. I wonder how many were saying cresswell was wank last season when he popped up with 12 goals playing out of position on the left wing?
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Post by kingdeano on Feb 11, 2009 18:05:49 GMT
his 12 goals were in the championship, this is an entirely new ball game, he is fucking wank and playing him will end up in us going down, it may sound nasty but i dont care, i want him injured so he cant play, yes hes a hard worker and does his best but that aint good enough, he is shit. at least if hes injured then pulis cant play him, their is no need be playing him on either bloody wing when we have quality players who are better than him and would contribute more than just running around like a headless chicken.
CRESSWELL OUT
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 11, 2009 18:09:57 GMT
agreed, deano...but be careful what you wish for! There's absolutely no guarantee that Liam will get a start from Pulis...with an injured Cressie, we may well see Simmo on the left
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