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Post by mcscooby on Feb 6, 2009 19:16:49 GMT
I'd love to see:
Etherington LM Lawrence RM Beattie Kitson
Surely with that kind of service Kitson will perform?
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 6, 2009 19:18:28 GMT
bloody exciting threads, tonight! Decisions, decisions ;D Tone'll have to do a raffle BTW...would love that selection myself ;D
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 6, 2009 19:18:47 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa
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Post by pmjh on Feb 6, 2009 19:22:35 GMT
and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa ??? Fullers scored 6 in 15 games
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Post by pmjh on Feb 6, 2009 19:25:17 GMT
[and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa] Fullers scored 6 in 15 games
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Post by Banega23 on Feb 6, 2009 19:26:13 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa It's better than people wanking over Kitson, and his 'service'. How many goals has he scored again?
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 6, 2009 19:26:15 GMT
stop thread hijacking! This one's for Lenny and Ether's...there's enough to go around for the rest of the squad
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 6, 2009 19:26:38 GMT
Not siputing the fact..
But his fininshing isn't as good as Beatties or Kitson's
Que "well why as he scored more goals, cus' hes been given teh chance to score more, he's played more minutes, he's not ahd to play in a role he hasn't played in before and what he can't do
Fuller, can create something from nothing, as got some amazing ability, but dodgy knees, bat attitude and laziness stops him from doing this on a basis we need in the prem. if we are playing with wingers crossing balls into the box...Beattie and Kits will get you more goals than Fuller would, Fuller can work off Mama's flick on's...Other players can't
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Post by mcscooby on Feb 6, 2009 19:27:10 GMT
Or...or...or... Etherington LM Lawrence RM Sidibe just behind the front two Kitson Beattie
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 6, 2009 19:27:48 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa It's better than people wanking over Kitson, and his 'service'. How many goals has he scored again? As kitson had the service of two wingers this season, like at REading last year?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 6, 2009 19:37:42 GMT
This thread is titled Lawrence and Etherington, and to tell you the truth, I think if both of these two start, then that fact alone will have more of a significant impact on how we play than on who partners Beattie (with the exception of Cresswell that is).
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Post by pmjh on Feb 6, 2009 19:38:13 GMT
His ratio of 6 in 15 is as good as anything that Kitson has ever done in the premier league and we have played very defensively at times.
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Post by nathan on Feb 6, 2009 22:52:27 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa I'm not entirely happy with the tone of this post. Actually, I think people who understand Stoke City recognise how vital Fuller is. Irrespective of how we'd love Pulis to play, getting midfielders to support the front men has never featured in any game plan of his previously. Although Ethers gives us more width and attacking intent down the left, are we suggesting Pulis is going to dispense with the outlook that he has adopted throughout his career? No, thought not. Isolating the strikers is a Pulisim and Fulller's magical ability is vital because of it.
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 6, 2009 23:27:37 GMT
A-Teen is clueless.
Fuller is one of our most important players we have, without him we wouldnt be in the premierleague and without his goals earlier in the season we would be adrift now.
Fuller has proved he can score with us Kitson and Camara havent yet.
He dis something wrong when he lashed out at Griff but cut the bloke some slack, he has been best striker we have seen at this club for many years.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Feb 6, 2009 23:42:10 GMT
I think Pulis will go with:
Sorensen Kelly Shawcross Abdy Faye Griff Cresswell Whelan Amdy Faye Etherington Beattie Fuller
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Post by crimesy on Feb 7, 2009 0:02:52 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa Coincidentally the goal on your signature Fuller is brill when in form and would prefer him and beattie, but would be just as happy i suppose with Kitson & Beattie.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 1:41:50 GMT
Mate, most people who understand football are saying the same! But Pulis as is reasons and logic and tactics, and wil always play Cresswell And then people will disagree with that because they can't undertsand that Beattie is a goal scoring Mama and People wank over Fuller cus he scored a good goal against Villa I'm not entirely happy with the tone of this post. Actually, I think people who understand Stoke City recognise how vital Fuller is. Irrespective of how we'd love Pulis to play, getting midfielders to support the front men has never featured in any game plan of his previously. Although Ethers gives us more width and attacking intent down the left, are we suggesting Pulis is going to dispense with the outlook that he has adopted throughout his career? No, thought not. Isolating the strikers is a Pulisim and Fulller's magical ability is vital because of it. I understand how vital he is, and I think he will be more usefull and more prolific coming of the bench. I really do... I'm harsher on fuller than maybe I should as I ahve little to no respect after what happened at west ham and after seeing him week in week out, show very little care about the results, it might be just the way he is but week in week out, over the past 2 and half season, seeing him stroll back onside, staying on the floor ,oaning about a decison not going his way etc he shows a lack of respect for the club and to me it seems like he can['t be arsed...after what happened at West ham, now more than ever he should be busting his gut to do well, but he isn't... is he really there for the cause, i dunner think his head is all there
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 1:44:55 GMT
fuck off, just cus' i ahve a different opinion as yopu, doesn't mean im clueless, I think im pretty much in topuch with the game today, i coach, ex manager, referee aswell and watch and play...i study football a lot, and i draw my opinion, and after what i said in my previous post, i more harsh on fuller after the lack of respect he showed me as a fan during the west hame game...he's a prick end of
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 7, 2009 1:45:26 GMT
I'm not entirely happy with the tone of this post. Actually, I think people who understand Stoke City recognise how vital Fuller is. Irrespective of how we'd love Pulis to play, getting midfielders to support the front men has never featured in any game plan of his previously. Although Ethers gives us more width and attacking intent down the left, are we suggesting Pulis is going to dispense with the outlook that he has adopted throughout his career? No, thought not. Isolating the strikers is a Pulisim and Fulller's magical ability is vital because of it. I understand how vital he is, and I think he will be more usefull and more prolific coming of the bench. I really do... I'm harsher on fuller than maybe I should as I ahve little to no respect after what happened at west ham and after seeing him week in week out, show very little care about the results, it might be just the way he is but week in week out, over the past 2 and half season, seeing him stroll back onside, staying on the floor ,oaning about a decison not going his way etc he shows a lack of respect for the club and to me it seems like he can['t be arsed...after what happened at West ham, now more than ever he should be busting his gut to do well, but he isn't... is he really there for the cause, i dunner think his head is all there Fuller has always been like that, its just the way he is but in an instant he can create or score a goal. I dunner think your head is right with the bull you spout.
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 7, 2009 1:48:36 GMT
fuck off, just cus' i ahve a different opinion as yopu, doesn't mean im clueless, I think im pretty much in topuch with the game today, i coach, ex manager, referee aswell and watch and play...i study football a lot, and i draw my opinion, and after what i said in my previous post, i more harsh on fuller after the lack of respect he showed me as a fan during the west hame game...he's a prick end of Griffin deserved that slap, he was injured at half time and took it on himslef to come out for the 2nd half injured which then lead to the goal, so it wasnt Fuller that cost us that game it was Griffin.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 1:50:37 GMT
I understand how vital he is, and I think he will be more usefull and more prolific coming of the bench. I really do... I'm harsher on fuller than maybe I should as I ahve little to no respect after what happened at west ham and after seeing him week in week out, show very little care about the results, it might be just the way he is but week in week out, over the past 2 and half season, seeing him stroll back onside, staying on the floor ,oaning about a decison not going his way etc he shows a lack of respect for the club and to me it seems like he can['t be arsed...after what happened at West ham, now more than ever he should be busting his gut to do well, but he isn't... is he really there for the cause, i dunner think his head is all there Fuller has always been like that, its just the way he is but in an instant he can create or score a goal. I dunner think your head is right with the bull you spout. Look at my signature,....Fullers goal against Villa is typical of how good he is at creating something from nothing, however, i think he is mor elikely to do that more often, when coming off the bench... We are all football fans and are entitled to an opinion, my opinion happens to be...Although Fuller as done brilliantly thus far, maybe we have better strikers at the club it all depends how we play, if we play flicking the ball on and we need a strong fast powerful player runing onto these loose balls, Fuller is the man... If we are playing with 2 pacy, skilful wingers taking on men and crossing the ball in...I don't think fuller is the man tomplay up top, i think Beattie and Kitson will be more prolific in front of goal, if you dont play one of ethers and Lawrence, you need Fuller for that pace and flair!!
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 1:51:51 GMT
fuck off, just cus' i ahve a different opinion as yopu, doesn't mean im clueless, I think im pretty much in topuch with the game today, i coach, ex manager, referee aswell and watch and play...i study football a lot, and i draw my opinion, and after what i said in my previous post, i more harsh on fuller after the lack of respect he showed me as a fan during the west hame game...he's a prick end of Griffin deserved that slap, he was injured at half time and took it on himslef to come out for the 2nd half injured which then lead to the goal, so it wasnt Fuller that cost us that game it was Griffin. Is Griffin to blame or is it TP for letting Griffin carry on, this is a debate I have hads with mates on more than one occasion
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 7, 2009 1:54:44 GMT
Griffin deserved that slap, he was injured at half time and took it on himslef to come out for the 2nd half injured which then lead to the goal, so it wasnt Fuller that cost us that game it was Griffin. Is Griffin to blame or is it TP for letting Griffin carry on, this is a debate I have hads with mates on more than one occasion Griffin is an experienced player and our captain so if he says he is fit enough to play then the manager lets him play, how the hell did Pulis know Griffin wasnt fit enough to start the 2nd half, you can only go from what the player is telling you.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 1:57:09 GMT
Is Griffin to blame or is it TP for letting Griffin carry on, this is a debate I have hads with mates on more than one occasion Griffin is an experienced player and our captain so if he says he is fit enough to play then the manager lets him play, how the hell did Pulis know Griffin wasnt fit enough to start the 2nd half, you can only go from what the player is telling you. by his perfomance saying that he always looks like he's carrying a knock I fully agree with you there...But as a manager I think, you should be able tell if a players not performing whther it be because of an injury or shit perormance, and you should act accordingly... Agree??
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 7, 2009 2:00:40 GMT
Griffin is an experienced player and our captain so if he says he is fit enough to play then the manager lets him play, how the hell did Pulis know Griffin wasnt fit enough to start the 2nd half, you can only go from what the player is telling you. by his perfomance saying that he always looks like he's carrying a knock I fully agree with you there...But as a manager I think, you should be able tell if a players not performing whther it be because of an injury or shit perormance, and you should act accordingly... Agree?? Pulis probably saw that he had a knock in the 1st half but after 15 mins rest players get over knocks so if Griffin the captain say he's got over the knock then he plays. I notice Pulice hasnt atarted Griffin since yet he started Fuller on his 1st game he was available after suspension so i think you can see who Pulis thinks is to blame.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 7, 2009 2:34:38 GMT
I absolulty agree there hacket, theres definitley more to the situation than we know about, fuller as more or less walked straight back into th team, where as we have only used Griffin when needed...but is this Pulis love and stubbonrness for fuller or sometihng more
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Post by One-Two on Feb 7, 2009 10:00:03 GMT
I'd love to see: Etherington LM Lawrence RM Beattie Kitson Surely with that kind of service Kitson will perform? Changing the subject a bit, could anyone imagine even the possibility of these 4 starting together for us at the start of last season? Amazing really
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Post by th05 on Feb 7, 2009 13:52:48 GMT
Not both Beattie and Kitson, one of them, at the moment its got to be Beattie obviously, and Ric or Camara please.
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Post by Ron Jeremy on Feb 7, 2009 13:56:34 GMT
if you get our team sheet and pick our best team and formation, no matter how good it is, we all know that TP wouldnt pick it, but aslong as we win with the teams and formations TP picks its allll gooooooooooood
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