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Post by stonestokie! on Feb 3, 2009 20:22:05 GMT
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Post by stonestokie! on Feb 3, 2009 20:25:40 GMT
isn't he!? i still thought he was?!
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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 3, 2009 20:27:23 GMT
doesnt matter i noticed a few of them are 21 or even 22 arent sure exactly how it works, someone will know!
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Post by stonestokie! on Feb 3, 2009 20:28:08 GMT
god knows then  |
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Post by colourboy on Feb 3, 2009 20:29:12 GMT
someone up there wants us to stay up.
Great honour to play for your country at any level, but to sound like some top 4 bosses, we could do without him getting injured elswhere at the moment.
Englands loss, Stokes gain.
Not sure how old he is tbh but didnt carl beeston play on after the age of 21 in the u21 team?
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Feb 3, 2009 20:29:53 GMT
You have to be 21 or under at the start of a major tournament I think. Shawcross is still 21 I'm sure. That's why you can play until 23 in some cases.
Not sure when the current one starts/started etc
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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 3, 2009 20:31:28 GMT
i have now been told it is if he was 21 or under at the start of the season, which he was (was 21 in october)
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Post by whelan_6 on Feb 3, 2009 20:31:33 GMT
eh?
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Post by Sparkiee on Feb 3, 2009 20:32:44 GMT
Reckon he'll ever get a call up to the normal team?
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Post by cheeseinmybum on Feb 3, 2009 20:40:25 GMT
Reckon he'll ever get a call up to the normal team? probably not while he is at Stoke sadly  |
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Post by colourboy on Feb 3, 2009 20:41:35 GMT
for sure, at the rate he is going then possibly with 2 or 3 years. Maybe sooner if some of the more regular center halfs get injured.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Feb 3, 2009 20:44:11 GMT
No the qualifiers/finals etc last 2 years-that's why you can play until 23. Same as the World Cup etc
If you are 21 when they start then you are eligible to play throughout that particular tournament until the final.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Feb 3, 2009 21:12:25 GMT
maybe he's been moved up to senior squade for their friendly coming up. england should use players that are on form not coz they are a big name
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 3, 2009 21:15:27 GMT
This is a bit off topic but wasn't there some weird rule allowing a couple of over-age players at one point?
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Post by cheeseinmybum on Feb 3, 2009 21:28:59 GMT
This is a bit off topic but wasn't there some weird rule allowing a couple of over-age players at one point? you might be thinking of the Olympics? All under 23, with 2 or maybe 3 over age players allowed. |
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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 3, 2009 21:29:38 GMT
yeah was going to say thats the Olympics
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 3, 2009 21:30:48 GMT
That's it, cheers  |
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Feb 3, 2009 21:31:12 GMT
There was Sal yes- a while back now, I remember Pierre Littbarski playing for W Germany v England and he was about 47. Not even German either. He played for the senior team the following night and set up 2 goals as well. Rule was done away with around the early 1980s
Think you were allowed 2 with minimal caps or something like that
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Post by Parksy on Feb 3, 2009 21:35:25 GMT
Shawcross has the ability to play for the full squad in the next year or two, let's hope he fulfils that with Stoke. Though, sadly as someone else says, whilst he is with us that probably won't happen. I think Mark Chamberlain was the last Stokie to break into the full squad and that was only because you couldn't ignore him at the time as he was on fire back then.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 4, 2009 0:01:47 GMT
Really surprised he's not been included
I wa son the understanding you are alowed to have 2 players that are 22 in the squad
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 4, 2009 9:24:47 GMT
Major surprise...better player than when he was chosen before....but not complaining we need him fit.
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Post by Block 25 on Feb 4, 2009 10:29:39 GMT
got to be in there ahead of bertrand ???
and mancienne becuase he hasn't played a game since he left wolves so why is he suddenly i9n the england squad ahead of ryan who has been immense this season ?
probably becuase he plays for stoke so pearce doesn't take any notice.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 4, 2009 10:39:16 GMT
Come on guys, a few weeks ago there wasn't too many Stokies who wanted him our line up never mind for England!!
He's come on a storm in the last few weeks but the selectors probably never get to see him live and our one win in god knows how many won't sell him on paper.
It's a shame for him but it's their loss, our gain.
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