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Post by PottersPride on Feb 3, 2009 0:19:39 GMT
when mama is fit it will be him and beatie upfront
what do you think
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Post by potterspride88 on Feb 3, 2009 0:20:13 GMT
hopefully
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 3, 2009 0:20:27 GMT
No...
Sidibe isn't a striker.
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Post by MrBigJobby on Feb 3, 2009 0:26:01 GMT
by golly Mumf I think you maybe right!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 3, 2009 0:27:23 GMT
God, I hope not.
He was fantastic at the start of the season but that was only because everything we did surrounded him. We're better than that now, and have more options, Mama and the inevitable hoof and narrow team formation should only be used when all else fails.
It can be effective but it is very, very limited.
Beattie plus Kitson/Camara with Fuller off the bench.
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Post by PottersPride on Feb 3, 2009 0:27:53 GMT
i just think him and beatie would do better than sidibe and fuller or fuller and beatie
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Post by PottersPride on Feb 3, 2009 0:28:30 GMT
sidibe is the heart of our team
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 3, 2009 0:30:14 GMT
sidibe is the heart of our team ....was..... P.S...The Queen mothers died. |
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Post by MrBigJobby on Feb 3, 2009 0:30:53 GMT
I have to disagree PP, I think that Beattie with one of either Fuller/Camara/ and Kitson with Mama as a super sub, otherwise we will have to revert to hoofball!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 3, 2009 0:37:43 GMT
He WAS at the heart of our team, but that was only because every player was looking to pump it high to him to knock on for Fuller. Sidibe's crap without Fuller, and Fuller obviously misses Mama, but Fuller is still a very good player without Mama.
The goalscoring records of the past speak for themselves, and Mama is the least effective in front of goal that we have in our ranks (other than Pericardiac- arrest). Fuller was the main beneficiary of Mama's presence which has been made largely redundant by the fact that Beattie and Ethers have struck up an ace partnership, Fuller and Liam have a great partnership, meaning two of two players, one on either side of the pitch who are a goalscoring threat, rather than just Fuller with the ball played down the middle.
I'm still convinced that with proper wing service and self-belief Kitson will be rattling them in, because he's a proven goalscorer. I'm not sure about Camara because I'll be honest and say that I don't actually know that much about him as a player, but from my quick glance at his Wikipedia page his goal to game ratio looked to be roughly one in four, which is better than the Sidmeister's.
We all love Sidibe, and he is a good weapon to have, but it just doesn't look like he's the best weapon we have anymore... We look to have evolved from relying solely on him.
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Post by trend....... on Feb 3, 2009 0:51:10 GMT
Tough one this is. But its a nice dilemma to have!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 3, 2009 0:57:16 GMT
Tough one this is. But its a nice dilemma to have! What's the betting that Cresswell isn't still part of that dilemma? |
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Post by MrBigJobby on Feb 3, 2009 0:58:42 GMT
Cresswell cant start now but will be on the bench for every game
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Post by mark71 on Feb 3, 2009 1:05:53 GMT
I hope your right but something tells me he's going to start on Saturday  |
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Post by trend....... on Feb 3, 2009 1:12:47 GMT
no doubt tp will play him but just what position ?
lawrence (surely?). whelan. amdy. etherington.
beattie. kitson or fuller or camara
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 3, 2009 1:14:23 GMT
I hope your right but something tells me he's going to start on Saturday Yep that's what's bugging me Mark. If Pulis was prepared to start with Cresswell away at Spurs when Fuller was fit, why should he be thinking about approaching an away game differently now that Camara is here? 'Spose if he does decide to start Beattie and Camara up front then he could always fit Cresswell in on the right side of midfield.  |
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 3, 2009 1:21:40 GMT
I hope your right but something tells me he's going to start on Saturday Yep that's what's bugging me Mark. If Pulis was prepared to start with Cresswell away at Spurs when Fuller was fit, why should he be thinking about approaching an away game differently now that Camara is here? 'Spose if he does decide to start Beattie and Camara up front then he could always fit Cresswell in on the right side of midfield. Why.....Because he's just stuck his neck out and brought in Camara...That's why.  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 3, 2009 1:29:14 GMT
Yep that's what's bugging me Mark. If Pulis was prepared to start with Cresswell away at Spurs when Fuller was fit, why should he be thinking about approaching an away game differently now that Camara is here? 'Spose if he does decide to start Beattie and Camara up front then he could always fit Cresswell in on the right side of midfield. Why.....Because he's just stuck his neck out and brought in Camara...That's why. Surely though mumf aren't Camara and Fuller very similar types of players? If Pulis didn't belive that that TYPE of player was appropriate to partner Beattie in our last away game, then why would he consider that that type of player is now appropriate to partner him in our next away game? |
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Post by mumf14 on Feb 3, 2009 1:39:13 GMT
I think Pulis learned a lot from that last away game.
I also think, that he now realises that we need to be more attack minded and win the odd game.
A lot will depend of course on how Camara performs and if we may have signed 'another' player tonight that we do not know about...ie a midfielder.
All if's and but's I suppose...but a ready made replacement for Fuller should he get injured.
Only time will tell...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 3, 2009 1:41:03 GMT
I think Pulis learned a lot from that last away game. I also think, that he now realises that we need to be more attack minded and win the odd game. PLIBT |
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Post by surreystokie on Feb 3, 2009 12:11:20 GMT
I can't help looking at the header and wondering if I'm dreaming.  The difference in Fuller and Camara, apart from the (hoped-for) obvious one, is six inches.  |
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Post by Spiderman on Feb 3, 2009 12:38:53 GMT
Pulis will still insist on playing Cresswell, he’ll probably play Cressy and Mamma up front and leave Beattie, Fuller, Kitson and Camara on the bench if picking them at all
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Post by nott1 on Feb 3, 2009 15:45:19 GMT
I think Cresser should be put in charge of Rory's towel, thereby giving him an important role which would make Pulis happy!
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Post by PottersPride on Feb 3, 2009 15:48:13 GMT
to the person who said mam is nothing with out fuller i think you will find its the other way around
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 15:54:54 GMT
He WAS at the heart of our team, but that was only because every player was looking to pump it high to him to knock on for Fuller. Sidibe's crap without Fuller, and Fuller obviously misses Mama, but Fuller is still a very good player without Mama. The goalscoring records of the past speak for themselves, and Mama is the least effective in front of goal that we have in our ranks (other than Pericardiac- arrest). Fuller was the main beneficiary of Mama's presence which has been made largely redundant by the fact that Beattie and Ethers have struck up an ace partnership, Fuller and Liam have a great partnership, meaning two of two players, one on either side of the pitch who are a goalscoring threat, rather than just Fuller with the ball played down the middle. I'm still convinced that with proper wing service and self-belief Kitson will be rattling them in, because he's a proven goalscorer. I'm not sure about Camara because I'll be honest and say that I don't actually know that much about him as a player, but from my quick glance at his Wikipedia page his goal to game ratio looked to be roughly one in four, which is better than the Sidmeister's. We all love Sidibe, and he is a good weapon to have, but it just doesn't look like he's the best weapon we have anymore... We look to have evolved from relying solely on him. I don't agree that Mama's crap without Fuller. West Brom game anyone? Mama was as important to Bangoura's brief scoring form as he's been to Fuller. I don't think Mama's particularly played better this season than last, it's just that people have finally woken up to what he brings to the team rather than crying about "he's a striker, there to score goals end of"! which in the modern game isn't true anymore. That said, I think his value this season lies in the role of impact sub with Beattie and Fuller/Camara as front two. |
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Post by stan on Feb 3, 2009 16:07:37 GMT
If Pulis was prepared to start with Cresswell away at Spurs when Fuller was fit, why should he be thinking about approaching an away game differently now that Camara is here? Other than perhaps learning his lesson -as he has hinted this week- I imagine Pulis saw Tottenham's team and was worried about their quality, thus deciding to attempt to "shut up shop". Whilst Sunderland have got some very good players, there's no Modric, Lennon, Defoe et al. |
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Feb 3, 2009 18:46:58 GMT
Start with Cresswell to close em down early doors...draw the sting.....frustrate the crowd and then hit em with Fuller and Kitson ...Beatts & Kitts in the middle, Ethers and Ric out wide? Do it Tone  |
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Feb 3, 2009 18:50:06 GMT
We're gonna win 3 - 4
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