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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 11:58:34 GMT
I thought he had Robinho "in his pocket" - just that silly tackle two minutes from the end when he went over to kick SWP (and why not?)
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Post by Mozzaa on Feb 1, 2009 12:00:15 GMT
Yeah he kept Robinho quiet tbh...so that's Ronaldo & Robinho he's had in his pockets & people still think he won't make it in this League hmmm
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 12:01:20 GMT
Yeah he kept Robinho quiet tbh...so that's Ronaldo & Robinho he's had in his pockets & people still think he won't make it in this League hmmm I think that's because he's had his share of lapses which have cost us. Was very good yesterday though. |
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Post by hutchstokie1 on Feb 1, 2009 12:01:37 GMT
credit to wilko thought he had a mare at spurs but came back brilliantly against robinho well done andy son.
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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 12:02:52 GMT
Excellent, except for the one lapse - I honestly thought that dick of a ref may have sent him off
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Post by Bick on Feb 1, 2009 12:22:41 GMT
Pulis needs to say to him that he wont play for stoke again if he gets sent off again like he did before. A cool head on his shoulders would make a bloody good full back.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 1, 2009 12:32:08 GMT
The lad needs another couple of years to reach his full potential. He plays like a novice at times: unpredictable. But, he reminds me of Steve Bould. And most of us who remember him know that it was some time before he found his feet. I would persist with him.
A word about Pugh. I thought the lad was superb yesterday.
OS.
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Post by stonestokie! on Feb 1, 2009 12:34:09 GMT
he played really well yesterday, he'll become a really good player when he's older ;D
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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 12:45:55 GMT
OS, I thought Wilko was just as good as Danny yesterday. On that performance both should keep their places - but who knows how TPs mind works
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Post by stokie10 on Feb 1, 2009 12:49:22 GMT
great performance by wilko yesterday, lets not forget he's still learning the game but with players like ab faye, beattie, and sorro in the team he can only benefit from their experience and improve, but it's nice to see a local lad doing well.
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Post by mosscat on Feb 1, 2009 12:51:12 GMT
i have transfered wilko into my sun dream team. in a couple of years wilko and shawcross could be in englands back 4.
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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 13:07:12 GMT
Mosscat - Ryan & Wilko should be in England's back four now
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Post by walrus on Feb 1, 2009 13:34:01 GMT
I mentioned him yesterday, along with Ryan in a thread, but why not do it again?
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Post by rfstokie on Feb 1, 2009 13:36:06 GMT
He was absolute quality. I dont think Griff will start any more games with Wilko playing like that
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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 13:36:45 GMT
Sorry, ITPL missed that one
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 1, 2009 13:47:50 GMT
Mosscat - Ryan & Wilko should be in England's back four now ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 1, 2009 13:52:10 GMT
Mosscat - Ryan & Wilko should be in England's back four now ;D ;D ;D Yes with Fuller up front. |
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Post by crowey on Feb 1, 2009 14:23:55 GMT
Don't think so
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Post by Malex on Feb 1, 2009 14:35:30 GMT
I don't get why people keep on going on about his age and saying he's got a few years to mature properly. I think he's a good player for us at the moment but don't really see him progressing a great deal to be perfectly honest. He's 24 now, not exactly a youth player anymore, and 3 years older than Ryan Shawcross.
If people are going to use the 'he's still a young lad and got a couple of years to mature and develop' line then why don't they also use it for Glen Whelan, who's only a few months older?
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Post by luke2u on Feb 1, 2009 14:55:44 GMT
The lad needs another couple of years to reach his full potential. He plays like a novice at times: unpredictable. But, he reminds me of Steve Bould. And most of us who remember him know that it was some time before he found his feet. I would persist with him. A word about Pugh. I thought the lad was superb yesterday. OS. Another couple of years?? He'll be 26 then. Many think of him as much younger than he really is, he played his first game for Stoke over 7 years ago. So if he isn't good enough before he's about to get his testimonal, I'm not sure if he's the right player. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 1, 2009 15:21:49 GMT
When i see wilko in the team for big games like chelsea, manc utd and yesterday i am happy because he has to be switched on for 90 mins but when he and others in our team play fulham and the like they don't do aswell but he was brilliant along with the others apart from the big jamaican baby upfront!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 15:25:11 GMT
Imust admit -he proved me wrong
just needs to work on his passing and movement now -first half he suddenly realised he was free in the opposing half With the football - and his nose started bleeding
well done ! - but can still improve
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Post by fromafar07 on Feb 1, 2009 15:25:19 GMT
if you kept up with the board yesterday, you would have seen him mentioend a cpl of times including my resposne to oen of them. He had a prett ygood game yesterday, still made some of his usual ball watching instead of man watching mistakes, i.e. when Robinho found himself wide open in the penalty area fro ma cross and shot the ball, well if you call it a shot, lamely to Sorenson. He is a decent player, can become a much better player for Stoke, but it will take some time if he keeps playing like he has he will become a good player fot Stoke !!
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Post by liamscfc on Feb 1, 2009 17:13:32 GMT
im a big fan of wilko, if he keeps playing like he has recently cant see griff playing many more games for us
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 1, 2009 17:52:59 GMT
Not neccessarily. Players mature at different ages just as some are exceptional at a young age and don't go on to make the grade. He seems to me to be a late developer. Can anyone say he has not improved tremendously this last 12 months? Even so, he's only played sporadically and he needs many more games to improve his technique. He will do that by playing alongside experienced players like Abde Faye and playing regularly. IMHO, there are two things he needs to do to continue his progress: he needs to learn how to keep his head and how to distribute the ball better. If he does that, he has a further 5/6 years ahead of him playing at this level or one below and a further few years in the lower leagues.
It's a good point about Glen Whelan. In fact it's a good point about quite a few of our players. This is where a few old heads can help. That was the 'Waddo Way'. This league can be very cruel to novices learning their trade. 'Novices' as in non-Prem experience. Many managers and fans won't tolerate unpredictable performances, hence we're having this discussion about him.
OS.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Feb 1, 2009 18:28:56 GMT
Wilko does a brilliant job as a man marker, apart from the rush of blood he had against Man Ure,he had done a great job in marking Ronaldo and Giggs, yesterday played Robinho very well, now he just needs to add a constructive side to his game
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Post by jarhead on Feb 1, 2009 18:36:16 GMT
He is a brilliant defender but abit rash at times but we need that commitment and passion to make players around him to take note and fire them up.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 1, 2009 18:37:54 GMT
He is a solid die for the cause player who has the odd good game but is not good enough for the prem.
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Post by lancer on Feb 1, 2009 18:47:01 GMT
A class act, and getting better every game. Still needs to curb his enthusiasm though, he's no good if he's not playing.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Feb 1, 2009 19:16:06 GMT
I thought he had Robinho "in his pocket" - just that silly tackle two minutes from the end when he went over to kick SWP (and why not?) That's funny because I know Andy, I called him over before the warm down and that's what I said. "Andy. don't for get to Robinho out of your back pocket!" |
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