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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 31, 2009 15:34:51 GMT
...are pretty quiet aren't they???
Immediatly after half time, when Sky Sports announced Cresswell was replacing fuller, i thought to myself, "i hope to God that we win, otherwise Pulis will get SO much shit!"
But looking back, that was a superb substitution. TP knew that we were gonna have to dig in and defend, yet he still wanted 2 strikers on the pitch. Fuller would not have put the shift in that BT and Cresswell did today.
I still don't think he is good enough to warrant a place in the first team ahead of Fuller, Kitson or Beattie. However, he was the right player for the situation. Backs against the wall, resiliant defending needed, and i think that had fuller stayed on, on his own up front, he would have got incredibly frustrated by the way the game was heading. Good move TP, and i'm glad it payed off.
A cracking three points, and lets push on together to get ourselves a few more.
GOOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STOKE!
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Post by luke45 on Jan 31, 2009 15:37:31 GMT
...are pretty quiet aren't they??? Immediatly after half time, when Sky Sports announced Cresswell was replacing fuller, i thought to myself, "i hope to God that we win, otherwise Pulis will get SO much shit!" But looking back, that was a superb substitution. TP knew that we were gonna have to dig in and defend, yet he still wanted 2 strikers on the pitch. Fuller would not have put the shift in that BT and Cresswell did today. I still don't think he is good enough to warrant a place in the first team ahead of Fuller, Kitson or Beattie. However, he was the right player for the situation. Backs against the wall, resiliant defending needed, and i think that had fuller stayed on, on his own up front, he would have got incredibly frustrated by the way the game was heading. Good move TP, and i'm glad it payed off. A cracking three points, and lets push on together to get ourselves a few more. GOOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STOKE! Good Post. Totally Agree |
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Post by canadianmoose on Jan 31, 2009 15:38:29 GMT
Fair play to Cresswell today.
I don't think anyone would be against him sticking around as a squad player, it's just when he is in the starting 11 people get ticked....
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2009 15:40:02 GMT
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Post by northstokie on Jan 31, 2009 15:40:07 GMT
I don't agree, once again gave away stupid free kicks and despite having a good engine and only just coming on he offered very little protection to wilko
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 31, 2009 15:40:48 GMT
i just thought that taking fuller off at half time for Cressy was a very bold, and possibly unpopular move by TP. I think we all question his judgement at times, but this was one time that he really proved me (and i imagine, lots of other people) wrong. and long may that trend continue  |
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Post by daverichards on Jan 31, 2009 15:40:59 GMT
we won, be happy, he's still wank mind
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2009 15:41:29 GMT
...are pretty quiet aren't they??? Immediatly after half time, when Sky Sports announced Cresswell was replacing fuller, i thought to myself, "i hope to God that we win, otherwise Pulis will get SO much shit!" But looking back, that was a superb substitution. TP knew that we were gonna have to dig in and defend, yet he still wanted 2 strikers on the pitch. Fuller would not have put the shift in that BT and Cresswell did today. I still don't think he is good enough to warrant a place in the first team ahead of Fuller, Kitson or Beattie. However, he was the right player for the situation. Backs against the wall, resiliant defending needed, and i think that had fuller stayed on, on his own up front, he would have got incredibly frustrated by the way the game was heading. Good move TP, and i'm glad it payed off. A cracking three points, and lets push on together to get ourselves a few more. GOOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STOKE! Spot on. If we had gone in 0-0 I would have preferred Lawrence, but Cresswell was the correct man to help protect what we had. |
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Post by Mickstoke on Jan 31, 2009 15:42:18 GMT
...are pretty quiet aren't they??? Immediatly after half time, when Sky Sports announced Cresswell was replacing fuller, i thought to myself, "i hope to God that we win, otherwise Pulis will get SO much shit!" But looking back, that was a superb substitution. TP knew that we were gonna have to dig in and defend, yet he still wanted 2 strikers on the pitch. Fuller would not have put the shift in that BT and Cresswell did today. I still don't think he is good enough to warrant a place in the first team ahead of Fuller, Kitson or Beattie. However, he was the right player for the situation. Backs against the wall, resiliant defending needed, and i think that had fuller stayed on, on his own up front, he would have got incredibly frustrated by the way the game was heading. Good move TP, and i'm glad it payed off. A cracking three points, and lets push on together to get ourselves a few more. GOOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STOKE! he was shit! |
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Post by th05 on Jan 31, 2009 15:43:16 GMT
I suppose it did work out, as such. But at the time I was very confused as to why he didn't bring Lenny on.
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Post by luke45 on Jan 31, 2009 15:44:16 GMT
...are pretty quiet aren't they??? Immediatly after half time, when Sky Sports announced Cresswell was replacing fuller, i thought to myself, "i hope to God that we win, otherwise Pulis will get SO much shit!" But looking back, that was a superb substitution. TP knew that we were gonna have to dig in and defend, yet he still wanted 2 strikers on the pitch. Fuller would not have put the shift in that BT and Cresswell did today. I still don't think he is good enough to warrant a place in the first team ahead of Fuller, Kitson or Beattie. However, he was the right player for the situation. Backs against the wall, resiliant defending needed, and i think that had fuller stayed on, on his own up front, he would have got incredibly frustrated by the way the game was heading. Good move TP, and i'm glad it payed off. A cracking three points, and lets push on together to get ourselves a few more. GOOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STOKE! he was shit! Based on what? because he didn't score? The second half was set out for us to work hard, frustrate them, limit their chances, and force them into shooting from distance, every single player did their job in the second half, so thats nothing short of a ridiculous comment. |
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 31, 2009 15:45:15 GMT
i think it was a pure fitnees sub th05.
i'm not sure whether Lenny would have had the legs after so much time off the pitch. However i was a little disappointed not to see a cameo from him, cos thats the only way he'll get match fit. by playing!
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Post by jamojamo on Jan 31, 2009 15:45:58 GMT
I actually agree
Starting Cressy is the stupid bit
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Post by growler on Jan 31, 2009 15:49:09 GMT
Wny is Cressie - who gives his all - fair game, while anyone who has a go at Mama - who gives his all - is not a Sroke supporter according to this board's thought police?
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Post by Big Al on Jan 31, 2009 15:57:19 GMT
i thought he wasshit and was left for dead on numerous occasions thats why ethrington had to swap sides. Fuller off lawrence on should of been the sub
cresswell offers nothing delivers nothing and should get paid nothing
waste of a shirt
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Jan 31, 2009 16:03:17 GMT
Well said Luke45. Although Kitson can defend and attack and attack better than Cressie.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 31, 2009 16:05:20 GMT
Subbing Fuller and going 4-4-1 was the obvious thing to do, but bringing on Cresswell to play right mid, ahead of Lawrence, was straight out of the loony drawer as far as I'm concerned.
Ok we still won, and Cresswell ran around a bit, but he really isn't the only footballer who can run up and down, despite what the rimmers might tell you. I've always been a stickler for not playing players out of position if you don't have to, and therefore Lawrence should have been the automatic selection to fill the gap vacated by Delap. I don't buy this crap about him not being ready either...he's been training for over a month now, and if he still isn't fit enough for 45 minutes of football, then he shouldn't be on the bench at all. However, at present Pulis seems like he'd rather pick Simmo on as an outfield player than give LL any playing time and to be honest it's a bit of a worry.
Generally, you'd have to say that Stoke's chances of winning a game are vastly reduced when Cresswell is on the pitch, so there's no point having a wank over him if we do win the odd one or two with him in the team.
Quite simply, Cresswell should only ever get on the pitch as a striker, and only if we have absolutely no other option available (not including Pericard...he's not even an option). Overall we'll do worse with him involved than if he's in the stands, and so Pulis' sexual obsession with him really doesn't help our chances in the long term.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 31, 2009 16:09:19 GMT
I have to disagree. Once again, he ran around like an absolute maniac, and people seem to think that warrants MOM or whatever. He puts in effort, yes. I have to respect him for that. But he seemed a liability in his protection of Wilko and gave away needless free kicks. I can't fault his effort but he's out of his depth, I don't think anyone can blame him for that, I mean, I wouldn't wanna take his place in the team, but still.
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Post by stokie4life on Jan 31, 2009 16:12:46 GMT
Cresswell is very useful in a situation like today where we had to defend a lead. Thought he played well and as u would expect he worked very hard. I think Cresswell was used instead of Lawrence because Lawrence is probably still lacking match fitness. Good decision TP.
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Post by vodka on Jan 31, 2009 16:12:59 GMT
eddy he's rubbish....runs around a lot yes but on the balls hes crap end of
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2009 16:17:29 GMT
He worked his balls off - as usual, and this means he should always be exempt from personal criticism in my book.
But the decision to bring him on still makes as much sense to me as at the time - none at all.
Picking fault with anything today will always be perceived as nit-picking, but I really didn't see him offering any effective support to Wilkinson (he was being ghosted past at will and he wasn't even able to effectively hold them up) or offer anything at all on the break.
Lawrence is not a namby-pamby winger. He's a hard-working bloke who puts a great shift in. If he was fit enough to be on the bench, I'm baffled as to why he wasn't trusted to put the shift in on the right today - and offer his greater quality when we were in possession, to bring us some relief from the waves of incessant pressure.
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Post by towraytek on Jan 31, 2009 16:24:22 GMT
At Spurs on Tuesday I was furious at seeing Cressie on the pitch with talent like Kitson and Fuller on the bench but today was different. Cressies fitness and commitment to the cause was a better bet under the circumstances than Kitson, a better player obviously but whose match fitness is still still doubtful.
Good call Tone!
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Post by phil51 on Jan 31, 2009 16:56:11 GMT
Good decision to bring on Cresswell. Put in a great shift. Limited ability; great heart!
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