coggy
Youth Player
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:13:04 GMT
Post by coggy on Jan 24, 2009 15:13:04 GMT
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:23:26 GMT
Post by Premier League Bluto on Jan 24, 2009 15:23:26 GMT
no credibility with this story imo purely heresay
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:23:58 GMT
Post by Beardy200 on Jan 24, 2009 15:23:58 GMT
Ahh not Ledley's Dad ... in that case means very little ..... luckily
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:51:09 GMT
Post by Irish Stokie on Jan 24, 2009 15:51:09 GMT
Source: seen a black merc at the Brit with the reg "LEDL3Y 1S A ST0K13" on it. Thats how he knows!
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:52:07 GMT
Post by sgtpotter89 on Jan 24, 2009 15:52:07 GMT
;D
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coggy
Youth Player
Posts: 340
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 15:55:41 GMT
Post by coggy on Jan 24, 2009 15:55:41 GMT
Source: seen a black merc at the Brit with the reg "LEDL3Y 1S A ST0K13" on it. Thats how he knows! Great, when was that there ?
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 16:59:17 GMT
Post by Mr Rottweiler on Jan 24, 2009 16:59:17 GMT
Non-bloody-sense!!
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 22:10:19 GMT
Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 24, 2009 22:10:19 GMT
Paul, You are right I did suggest that, and Pulis quotes could suggest that my sources were wrong, but on the other hand, if you look at it from my point of view (been bias towards my source) all he basically said was "I am disappointed because I think Joe is a very good player, but we have to respect Cardiff," "He is their player and maybe it was never going to happen." I take on board what you're saying A Teen but unfortunately I can't really afford the luxury of being biased towards your source, rather I have to take things on face value. That being that if the paperwork didn't reach the FA in time, then that would mean that Cardiff had accepted our offer and Ledley had agreed terms. Which would then mean that there was a conspiracy between Cardiff, Stoke and most importantly the player to publicly state that the offer hadn't been accepted and that Ledley himself would have to state publicly that he was angry with Cardiff that they hadn't allowed him to talk to Stoke. Why would all three parties agree to take part in such an elaborate lie? It doesn't make any sense. Whilst I'm sure there was dialogue between agents and the two clubs I really do find the suggestion that the paperwork didn't reach the FA in time to be highly dubious. Paul as I tried explain in an earlier post, but I didn't want to sound like a total twat, the paperwork not reaching the FA in time is my take on events... that everything was agreed in principle but the paperwork wasn't completed... That was my information... Stoke offered Ledley a deal via agents "if the bid was accepted would you take this" kinda thing and he was happy with it - Cardiff apaprently agreed a bif well inot the night of 6 and half million now this might not be true, then again it might and nmot been made public. Like MC says he heard completly different information, but information this transfer window (which mine is a bit skethcy, we seem to ahev heard similar things) I can only post what I have been told... I've got a thread saved, where I posted all my information, and at the end of the window I will bring it up and see how right I was NO I was wrong to put my own take on information, and thjat may have ms-lead you. But back to the matter at hand, we are still interested in Leldey, whatever Gary says! (according to 3 out 3 of my sources)
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 22:16:39 GMT
Post by Beardy200 on Jan 24, 2009 22:16:39 GMT
Good
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 22:44:26 GMT
Post by northstokie on Jan 24, 2009 22:44:26 GMT
Cheers ATeen
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 23:02:34 GMT
Post by Ursemboy on Jan 24, 2009 23:02:34 GMT
Better value than Bullard
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 23:09:20 GMT
Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 24, 2009 23:09:20 GMT
Me and a mate were dicussing this today.
say he cost £6.5million @ 20k a week on a four 1/2 year contract (the same length as Bullard)
he would cost us - 6500000 (Transfer fee) + 4680000 (wages) = £11.18M In contrast Bullard would cost that in wages alone, then add on the £5M transfer fee, £16M with little or no chance on making any money from him at the end of his contract, because at 34 noone is going to wnat pay any great deal of money on a bloke with dodgy knees, and offer him 50k at that!
Whereas with Ledley we will have a 24 year old midfielder with hopefull a couple of years prem expereince - Can seel for what we paid for him at least!
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 23:15:03 GMT
Post by mistersausage on Jan 24, 2009 23:15:03 GMT
There has to be a reason why TP didn't go for Bullard. That reason may just be that a deal is in the offing for Ledley.
I know which I'd prefer ;D
Hull can have Bullard. He's a good player but injury prone and older than Joe.
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ledley
Jan 24, 2009 23:17:40 GMT
Post by Ursemboy on Jan 24, 2009 23:17:40 GMT
A-teen spot on with that. A few people reckon Bullard ran the show at Stoke. He did see a lot of the ball but 90% in his own half when Stoke backed off. 40-50K a week 4.5 year contract
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 0:06:17 GMT
Post by ChesterStokie on Jan 25, 2009 0:06:17 GMT
I'd love to see Ledley at Stoke, but he is a box to box player and I'm not sure Pulis allows that. I mean Whelan has got a decent shot on him and knows how to score but the only time Pulis allows him to enter the attacking third is for a dead ball situation. Why would Pulis suddenly change his strategy if he replaced Whelan with Ledley?
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 0:16:54 GMT
Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 25, 2009 0:16:54 GMT
He has always said he plays to the strength of the players he as got available.
eg the so called "Mama role" He has brought a good pacy skillfull left winger soemthing we've never had at the club before under tony Pulis, I suppose we have tried with the likes are Martin, Gallagher et al. Also he must have brought kitosn for 5.5million for another reaosn than play him in the mama role which he can't do he thrives of having decent wingers and decent balls played into his path something that Ethers, Lawrence and Ledley would provide. If/when we do get Leldey, I can see a different approach to our games especially at home!
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 0:22:26 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2009 0:22:26 GMT
the paperwork not reaching the FA in time is my take on events... I was wrong to put my own take on information, and thjat may have ms-lead you. Thanks for clearing that up mate. Obviously when you post information on a public messageboard there's every likelihood that it will come under some scrutiny. Let's indeed hope Ledley is soon to become a Stokie.
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 0:25:40 GMT
Post by potterspride88 on Jan 25, 2009 0:25:40 GMT
Matt le Tissier said he doesnt think that Ledley is ready for the prem yet and we need people who will hit the ground running
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 0:46:58 GMT
Post by serpico on Jan 25, 2009 0:46:58 GMT
Matt le Tissier said he doesnt think that Ledley is ready for the prem yet and we need people who will hit the ground running Le Tissier ? since when is he a oracle of knowledge ??? .... bollocks to Le Tissier, he can stick his ample snout out of our business
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 1:34:31 GMT
Post by march4 on Jan 25, 2009 1:34:31 GMT
Matt le Tissier said he doesnt think that Ledley is ready for the prem yet and we need people who will hit the ground running Don't agree with him often, but if he said this he is absolutely spot on. Signing Ledley at this stage of the season has disaster written all over it.
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:26:30 GMT
Post by stokebill on Jan 25, 2009 10:26:30 GMT
The club are bracing themselves for a week of high activity as the January transfer window comes to an end.
There could yet be another Joe Ledley (inset below) saga, with reported interest from West Ham in the wake of Stoke City trying to prise him away last August. But Jones is too experienced to start getting uptight. And he was not afraid to lay on the line where he stands on Ledley’s future.
“The way of keeping players at this club is to get to the same level that they all want to play at,” he added. “But even then you have a problem if one of the bigger clubs comes in for one of your players. “It can then be an exciting thing for a manager to go out and find a replacement, and we have been fortunate in that department.
“If anybody looks back three years or so there was not a single asset at this club. “As far as Joe (Ledley) was concerned he was a young player and we did not know how he would develop. “But I remember not so long ago that fans did not like Joe and thought he was a waste and that the club should let him go. “Sometimes you need time for players to develop and come out of their shell a bit; and how old is Joe, 22!
“He has done fantastically well for this club and himself, but we have to be realistic. “Joe did not go to Stoke City because the bid came in three hours before the deadline. “What do I do when something like that arrives on my desk? Joe wants to play in the Premiership and we understand that. So do we.
“Stoke’s manager Tony Pulis is a good mate of mine, but he could have come in with £20m. “Where would I have spent it with three hours to go before the transfer window closed?” And Jones insists that a move to the Britannia Stadium would not have been right for the player either.
He added: “No disrespect to Stoke, but I told Joe that I thought he was better than that. “It was just not the right thing to do for the club or the player.
“Around 18 months ago we would have driven him to Stoke ourselves because we needed to survive. Today it is a different story at this club now. You look out of the window at Ninian Park and see a new stadium being built with only 17 weeks left to complete.
“The fact is, it is frightening the things that are going on at this club.”
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:30:34 GMT
Post by griffoisalegend on Jan 25, 2009 10:30:34 GMT
DAVE JONES.
IS A PEE
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:34:58 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2009 10:34:58 GMT
Seems to be sending out mixed signals here. "He has done fantastically well for this club and himself, but we have to be realistic."Sounds like he's leaving. "Around 18 months ago we would have driven him to Stoke ourselves because we needed to survive. Today it is a different story at this club now. "Sounds like he's staying. ?????? Where is this story from Bill? EDIT: The story is from Wales Online www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city-fc/2009/01/25/just-look-at-bluebirds-these-days-91466-22770950/Having read through the story a few times and reading between the lines, I get the impression that Jones is saying that Ledley is going to leave, but not to Stoke. Thoughts?
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:41:41 GMT
Post by scfclifer on Jan 25, 2009 10:41:41 GMT
they can keep him i'd rather have issiar dia
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:44:50 GMT
Post by griffoisalegend on Jan 25, 2009 10:44:50 GMT
they can keep him i'd rather have issiar dia Dia? Rather random ;D I'd prefer Ledley , at least i know who he is.
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 10:46:38 GMT
Post by boothenendboy on Jan 25, 2009 10:46:38 GMT
he can do better than cardiff, and thats stoke.
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 11:26:19 GMT
Post by stokebill on Jan 25, 2009 11:26:19 GMT
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 11:47:27 GMT
Post by Premier League Busta Rhymes on Jan 25, 2009 11:47:27 GMT
Dave Jones on talksport just now said he hopes Ledley stays, BUT they need to sell to survive and anything could happen, he can't guarantee he will be at Cardiff at the end of the window as he is destined to play in the Prem!
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 11:51:45 GMT
Post by stokecity4eva on Jan 25, 2009 11:51:45 GMT
that in my eyes is saying hes defo off this week then
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ledley
Jan 25, 2009 12:01:18 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2009 12:01:18 GMT
As I said earlier in the thread, it definately sounds like he's off this week, but I'm nervous that Jones' interview on Wales Online makes it sound that it's not likely to be to us.
“The way of keeping players at this club is to get to the same level that they all want to play at, but even then you have a problem if one of the bigger clubs comes in for one of your players."
“It can then be an exciting thing for a manager to go out and find a replacement, and we have been fortunate in that department.
“He has done fantastically well for this club and himself, but we have to be realistic.
“No disrespect to Stoke, but I told Joe that I thought he was better than that."
Does that sound like he's already found a replacement for Ledley who will be off to a 'bigger' club than Stoke this week, or am I reading too much into it?
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