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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 20, 2009 1:26:18 GMT
....how the system works, regarding applying to host? i've been sitting thinking about this all evening. Spain and Portugal have announced they will bid to host it in 2018. I'm pretty sure Spain held it in '86 (please correct me if i'm wrong with anythin) and portugal hosted Euro 2004. So... how come they get to apply again so soon? i mean, is there a time limit on how long you can apply after hosting it? i mean, mexico hosted the 1970 AND 1986 world cup, Germany also hosted the cup in '74 and '06. Yet we haven't hosted it since '66. The main questions i've been asking myself are... ....Why does it only seem like a few different countries get to host this competition, considering football is played nearly world wide?? (one interesting example is apparently Brazil are hosting the 2014 cup, after an unopposed bid! WTF??) ....Is it purely just political voting? like the eurovision song contest... and did our olympic bid have anything to do with us not hosting it sooner? i'm quite tempted to put it on in my back garden  any help on this matter is appreciated |
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Post by Del Boy on Jan 20, 2009 1:54:27 GMT
I am pretty sure that continents take it in turns, like after south africa Africa will have to wait until one country from every continent before a team applies again.
But i do agree that it is abit politicaly suspicious
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 20, 2009 1:57:25 GMT
I onner gorra clue mate, conner say that ah've ever thought abite eet, though ah spose yer rayt.
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Post by evans1863 on Jan 20, 2009 2:02:06 GMT
I'm glad its not here, rip-off ticket prices and a bunch of pricks who dont give two shits about the country. I've long given up caring how England play, actually me and Beaman are part of the Northen Ireland barmy army ever since they beat us, got to have some glory  |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 20, 2009 3:04:14 GMT
The euro champs are owned by UEFA whereas the world cup are owned by FIFA so those 2 are totally separate. One country could easily host the Euros and the Worlds in consecutive events.
So Portugal have never had a World Cup and Spain it was in 86 which will be over 20 years ago
I think a rough guide was that a country had to wait around 20 years before bidding for the same event but there is nothing written and formal.
Its more about
A) the new continental rotation system
B) who has most political influence at the time
C) Best bid
although I think now in the current climate it will be about who can make a financial gain on holding a world cup. South Africa it seems is going to struggle and will make a big loss, plus I wouldnt be surprised to see half empty stadia next year at many matches.
England will still be a prime candidate purely because we could guarantee full houses of over 50,000 at nearly all matches (even if on the downside judging by the Olympics we may spend a bit too much money on running it)
Im pretty confident we will win the 2018 tournament purely on the emotional blackmail we can use that we invented modern football and Wembley is the home of the beautiful game!
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 20, 2009 3:58:18 GMT
Spain was in 1982 Mexico was 1986. Mexico didn't win a bid they were appointed after Colombia had to pull out due to not having enough money. Mexico had only hosted it 16 years before BUT the major TV broadcaster in Mexico had Havelanges son in law as one of the bigwigs. When asked Havelange as good as admitted it was for his own family benefit .
The continental rotation system was dumped a few years ago. The main reason it was introduced was to ensure an African hosted WC to help Twatter get the votes he needed to keep his position. The fact this diabolical aberration was almost immediately scrapped says it all. Brazil had an unopposed application because nobody from South America was in a position to bid. Australia, China and several European nations would have loved the chance to bid but weren't allowed.
There is no relevance to hosting an Olympics and a WC. Totally seperate. Munich hosted the ill fated 1972 Olympics then the 1974 WC.
The one rule generally has always been is that no continent can host it two years running.
England has the facilities and IMHO is ready to host again BUT what could count against England is the nature of some stadia means they don't have enough space around them for sponsors to advertise.
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Post by Baggs on Jan 20, 2009 7:57:16 GMT
Would love us to host it but you know we'd lose on pennos in the knockout stages!
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2009 8:30:55 GMT
would rather we didnt host it tbh.
memories of Euro 96: endless 'sold out' games & yet banks & banks of empty seats as corperate fans didnt bother going whilst actual football fans couldnt get in
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 20, 2009 10:41:23 GMT
yeah Joe you are right about the Spain in 82 thing and the continental rule which changed from a rotation to the same continent cannot have the world cup 2 events running
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 20, 2009 12:33:03 GMT
the only rule there is now, is that the same continent cannot have world cups in a row... The did toy with the idea of a new continent each time, so europ would get it every 20 years, but outside of Europ there are only so many contries capable of hosting a major championships
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Post by njkk on Jan 20, 2009 12:43:29 GMT
I can never understand how USA got to host it in 94, the majority of amercans don't give a flying one about real football, it was about as daft as the UK applying and winning the right to host world grizzly bear wrestling cup
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Jan 20, 2009 12:44:54 GMT
The World Cup will be held in England next year.
FIFA will hand it to us when they pull the plug on South Africa in Semptember 09.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Jan 20, 2009 13:12:09 GMT
the world cup goes to the country that the racists Blatter and Platini want it to go. not england bascially
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2009 13:30:05 GMT
Platini is a racist,why?
because he doesnt pander to the obscene Premier League & the way its corrupting European football?
Blatter is as corrupt as fuck mind.
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 20, 2009 13:42:45 GMT
cheers for the info guys. to be honest, i couldn't care less if we never hosted the world cup ever again. it just seemed a little weird that only a few countries seemed to ever host it.
and yes. i agree, there is some SERIOUS corruption going on.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 20, 2009 16:47:18 GMT
and yes. i agree, there is some SERIOUS corruption going on.
Where eddy?
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Post by Mozzaa on Jan 20, 2009 17:01:34 GMT
Hopefully I'm going see the Football at the Olympics, but tbh World Cup is a load of shite either Brazil, Germany or Italy usually win it so don't care unless we won it again of course  lol |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 20, 2009 19:02:37 GMT
IMO we missed out because of the scousers at heisel and hillsboro in 80's.
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Jan 20, 2009 19:04:15 GMT
FIFA hate us.
Frog bastards.
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Post by crimesy on Jan 20, 2009 19:11:56 GMT
since the modern game came from England i have always beleived we should have the right to host it if we liked. Brazil which has helped develop the game should also have a larger influence if it wants to host.
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Post by surreystokie on Jan 20, 2009 19:13:51 GMT
ss, I'll be amazed if they pull out of S. Africa next year, as Blatter has too many votes resting on it. Is it political? Nah, only as much as I'm a raving Stokie. |
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Jan 20, 2009 20:55:45 GMT
ss, I'll be amazed if they pull out of S. Africa next year, as Blatter has too many votes resting on it. Is it political? Nah, only as much as I'm a raving Stokie. It does'nt matter how political it is, if the stadiums are not built, the streets not safe, the transport infastructure not in place and and an electricity black out in a 15 mile radious of the stadium just to turn on the media machine and floodlights then they will pull it. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 20, 2009 21:24:28 GMT
Having witnessed at first hand last September the bare skeleton of the stadium at Green Point in Cape Town, and the local papers there full of news of unpaid contractors, back handers, strikes etc., if all other cities are in such a bad state of preparation, I will be totally gobsmacked if everything is in place in South Africa on time to hold the 2010 World Cup.
We are one of only a handful of nations who could step in at only a few months' notice to hold it, given the quality of our existing stadia.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Jan 20, 2009 21:38:04 GMT
Platini is a racist,why? because he doesnt pander to the obscene Premier League & the way its corrupting European football? Blatter is as corrupt as fuck mind. platini fucking hates the english mate |
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Post by crimesy on Jan 20, 2009 22:58:18 GMT
Isn't England the back-up host for every world cup? Or is that just bull that somebody made up?
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Post by Hiram on Jan 20, 2009 23:39:18 GMT
since the modern game came from England i have always beleived we should have the right to host it if we liked. Brazil which has helped develop the game should also have a larger influence if it wants to host. We didn't take to it at first (or ever, except at home) as England didn't bother entering a side until 1950, when they went out in the first round and not on penalties. |
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Post by santy on Jan 21, 2009 2:28:41 GMT
Isn't England the back-up host for every world cup? Or is that just bull that somebody made up? I'd imagine worse case scenario, England, Italy and Spain are all kept as the back-up hosts. They are pretty much the only countries in world football with large enough stadiums readily available on the kind of short term notice to be considered. There would be other nations say 2 years beforehand or something, but say for some reason 2 months before the world cup is set to kick off the hosting nation can't do it I could only see England, Italy or Spain having the infrastructure already in place to deal with it etc. |
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 21, 2009 3:07:20 GMT
how weird would that be?? if they just announced that in 6 weeks england would be hosting the world cup very randomly
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Post by Northy on Jan 21, 2009 4:30:43 GMT
Isn't England the back-up host for every world cup? Or is that just bull that somebody made up? Just Bull I think |
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any help on this matter is appreciated
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