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Post by ceejays on Jan 18, 2009 13:48:55 GMT
As I am as gutted as everyone else (and it maybe have been debated already) do we not invite disaster ?
Last ten minute tactics have been debated on here a couple of seasons ago yet Pulis insists on sitting back.
West Ham,Manure,Middlesboro and now Chelsea - 6 points frittered away with last 10 minute debacles.
What irritates me is there little in the way of running the clock down.Yesterday Cresswell,Kitson,Pugh and Etherington had chances to simply run the ball into the corners and attempt to get a throw in or corner.Kitson's cross into the safe hands of Cech in added on time was madness.Years ago Leeds we past masters at running the clock down.Its not pretty but we are in survival mode and the tactics are justified.Leeds used to break the game up with feigned short goal kicks,feigned injuries,running it into the corners and other tactics.When this topic was debated some years ago some statistics showed that Pulis teams did not score the same percentage of goals in the last 10 minutes as other teams.
There was much to muse over about our tactics yesterday in the last minutes of the game.Why Cresswell played is a mystery to many of us .We have some 26 players in the squad at present with allegedly 2 or 3 more due in.Yet we still pursue the same style of play.Clearly there is a basic lack of pace in the team which dictates some of this but Pulis after match interview referred to Sidibe almost instantly.This indicates we are going to persist in this park the bus mentality.Surely with the worst away record in the division a little more adventure is called for.Fortune favours the brave .Some will say we have been unlucky.Ok this might be true on one or two occasions but this is happening all too often now.Abdy Faye must be feeling really hacked off.What a player he is.Pulis got this signing right.An absolute diamond.Unfortunately he has got too many signings wrong and his favouritism to Cresswell is misplaced.Defending the 18 yard box for 90 minutes cannot possibly work .It invites the opposition forward and we pose no threat going forward.Etherington has introduced some pace and trickery into the team so lets hope our way tactics are varied slightly.I am not asking for a gung ho charge of the light brigade but some attempt at playing in the opposition half !! Above all else Mr Tony Pulis can you please think through those last 10 minute scenarios.It was bad enough against Leicester - only Nash made that wondrous save.BE BRAVE BE BOLD BE LIEVE
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 14:01:03 GMT
ceejay- i have to agree the way we surrender territory means we do allow other teams to build a head of steam, which when they then hve nothing to lose means they can give it everything with no pace to expose their lack of conve it just becomes a question of waiting for the inevitable as per yesterday, but its the way he want to play so we need to wait until May to see if it works over a season,, yesteday was crying out for creswell off kitson or even olifinajana on leave Ethererington on knackered or not after all at West ham, Griffin & Pugh stayed on on one leg to "keep the shape ", liitle mention that both goals were conceeded after the substitution so whatever its merits it didnt "keep the shape" as the left side became totally exposed in those extra time minutes, all credit to Chelsea for having the ability to probe it ,dont know if anyone else has noticed but we also seem to always look wobbly in the first 5 minutes after half time for which ive no explanantion but st home especislly its a regular occurence
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Post by luke45 on Jan 18, 2009 14:08:34 GMT
As I am as gutted as everyone else (and it maybe have been debated already) do we not invite disaster ? Last ten minute tactics have been debated on here a couple of seasons ago yet Pulis insists on sitting back. West Ham,Manure,Middlesboro and now Chelsea - 6 points frittered away with last 10 minute debacles. What irritates me is there little in the way of running the clock down.Yesterday Cresswell,Kitson,Pugh and Etherington had chances to simply run the ball into the corners and attempt to get a throw in or corner.Kitson's cross into the safe hands of Cech in added on time was madness.Years ago Leeds we past masters at running the clock down.Its not pretty but we are in survival mode and the tactics are justified.Leeds used to break the game up with feigned short goal kicks,feigned injuries,running it into the corners and other tactics.When this topic was debated some years ago some statistics showed that Pulis teams did not score the same percentage of goals in the last 10 minutes as other teams. There was much to muse over about our tactics yesterday in the last minutes of the game.Why Cresswell played is a mystery to many of us .We have some 26 players in the squad at present with allegedly 2 or 3 more due in.Yet we still pursue the same style of play.Clearly there is a basic lack of pace in the team which dictates some of this but Pulis after match interview referred to Sidibe almost instantly.This indicates we are going to persist in this park the bus mentality.Surely with the worst away record in the division a little more adventure is called for.Fortune favours the brave .Some will say we have been unlucky.Ok this might be true on one or two occasions but this is happening all too often now.Abdy Faye must be feeling really hacked off.What a player he is.Pulis got this signing right.An absolute diamond.Unfortunately he has got too many signings wrong and his favouritism to Cresswell is misplaced.Defending the 18 yard box for 90 minutes cannot possibly work .It invites the opposition forward and we pose no threat going forward.Etherington has introduced some pace and trickery into the team so lets hope our way tactics are varied slightly.I am not asking for a gung ho charge of the light brigade but some attempt at playing in the opposition half !! Above all else Mr Tony Pulis can you please think through those last 10 minute scenarios.It was bad enough against Leicester - only Nash made that wondrous save.BE BRAVE BE BOLD BE LIEVE For me the defeats against manchester united and west ham boiled down to one thing, temperament, thats what cost us points in those games, in my opinion. I can see where your coming from with the sitting back, but in the end of the day we can't go to places like Stamford Bridge take the game to them and get results, we have to try and limit their posession and chances, stop them from playing, and be clinical with whatever opportunities we get, and for 88 minutes we did that. |
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Post by salopstick on Jan 18, 2009 14:13:12 GMT
we will stay up, of that im convinced but at least he will know different next year
as much of a new experience it is for us, tony, his staff, chairman, most players it is too
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Post by fromafar07 on Jan 18, 2009 15:58:01 GMT
i have to admit, that the sitting back thing is getting a bit tiresome. The main reason we were in the position we were in yesterday until the 87th minute was that we still attacked (as best we could) so still gave Chelsea something to "fear" , as in the Delap goal happening again. But when the 11 men came behind the ball, they just pounded away.
Isnt it just ironic as hell that when a team (any team) defends with all 11 men, they give up 2 goals and didnt give up a damn thing when defending normally !!!
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 18, 2009 16:12:03 GMT
4-2-4 against chelsea then??
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Post by luke2u on Jan 18, 2009 17:07:51 GMT
Yes, the Pulis way of play is to invite the other team to put the pressure on us more than needed. I'm sure he has never heard of the expression, attack is the best defense. We've lost quite a few points under Pulis this way.
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