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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 19:34:23 GMT
In the wake of Man City’s proposed £100m record transfer of Kaka, with a weekly wage that could rise to half a million pounds. I was wondering, is it time that a wage cap is brought back into football, as well as a limit put on how much a club can buy a player for? Not just in the English game, but throughout the footballing world.
The money that is now being thrown about, by billionaire investors is becoming ridiculous. No matter how good a player is no-one is worth £100m, and no-one is worth a wage that could possibly be up to £500,000 a week.
With the increasing amount of interest from foreign investors, it will come to a point what football will not be a competition anymore, we have already seen the dominance of the big 4 year in year out, being able to attract the best players in the world. This mainly down to the money they receive by predictably gaining entry year upon year to the Champions League, which allows them to pay big money for players they want, as well as big wages to keep the players they have.
I feel that if a wage and transfer cap is brought in then the only way for the game to go is up. With the wage cap in place, then as long as clubs can afford it, it will give a lot more clubs the option to get better players, as players will realise that they can be only be paid up to the same amount as a clubs like us, Wigan, Fulham etc with the like of Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, or Man Utd. Which will result in a more competitive game all round, as no one will have a upper hand in regards as to the amount they can spend on a players wage.
Obviously clubs in the lower reaches of the league’s will not be able to pay players at the top end of the pay scale, but from money they gain from promotion, tv rights and ticket sales and right investment then they too could be able make the football a more entertaining game.
So my question is. Should there be a salary and a transfer cap?
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Post by daverichards on Jan 15, 2009 19:36:31 GMT
didn't someone ask this last night, christ its like ground hog day on here at times
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 19:37:53 GMT
appologise dave, but unlike some i dont spend every waking minute on here
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Post by Rick Oshea on Jan 15, 2009 19:38:14 GMT
didn't someone ask this last night, christ its like ground hog day on here at times he took all that time to write this the least you could do is give him an answer instead of thinking out loud
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Post by daverichards on Jan 15, 2009 19:39:13 GMT
Should it happen: yes will it happen: no
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Post by Rick Oshea on Jan 15, 2009 19:42:19 GMT
better same answer as dave from me
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jan 15, 2009 19:45:49 GMT
Absofuckinglutley or we will end up with one league and 8 teams. Nailed on.
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Post by rocket88 on Jan 15, 2009 19:54:34 GMT
Yes, there should be a wage cap. Monstrous wage bills (paid by supporters through ticket prices) have already put watching league football out of the reach of many people, me included. ;D
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Post by salopstick on Jan 15, 2009 19:56:25 GMT
no wage cap because the money has to go somewhere even though i know it is obscene however clubs should only be allowed to spend a % of income on salary
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Post by crimesy on Jan 15, 2009 19:56:30 GMT
same answer as ilford dave here..
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Post by crimesy on Jan 15, 2009 19:57:14 GMT
even if it were to happen then the cap/budget would raise every time sir alex wanted to break it
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Post by stokefctillidie on Jan 15, 2009 20:13:17 GMT
We need a wage cap now!
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Post by kingdeano on Jan 15, 2009 20:18:43 GMT
i think its too far gone for a salary cap, where would we draw the line with kaka reportedly being offered 500k a week?? the only way to stop it is by not offering stupid money to these players but with mega bucks city and chelsea etc it wont happen. the same as teams charging ludicrous prices to watch football, i.e chelsea 47 quid! fans should say no! if everyone said no then they would have to drop the prices, but while their are idiots paying it that wont happen either
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Post by Moosehead on Jan 15, 2009 20:19:11 GMT
A wage cap, and I would also suggest that transfer fees are also abolished/changed.
I doubt it would happen though.
I have been saying for a while now that the best thing to happen would be the 'big 4' piss off to a European league.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 15, 2009 20:22:37 GMT
If you see the transfer system thread,which was started yesterday you'll see that i suggest a change in the dealings of transfers.
For those who care i've bumped it back up ;D
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Post by Parkerson on Jan 15, 2009 20:23:06 GMT
didn't someone ask this last night, christ its like ground hog day on here at times Theres no real need to be a dick is there, i see you reply to several posters with this attitude.......i mean, does it really annoy you THAT much that people haven't scrolled every last post to make sure they don't post the same information twice ? Note Oatcake posters - Must check all posts as not to upset Ilford' im a big mard arse geek'Dave doesn't spit his dummy out.
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Post by Parkerson on Jan 15, 2009 20:27:11 GMT
If you see the transfer system thread,which was started yesterday you'll see that i suggest a change in the dealings of transfers. For those who care i've bumped it back up ;D Do we really give a fuck, i mean, has Ilford approved you doing this ? You do know this topic was posted YESTERDAY therefore meaning it was YESTERDAYS news, christ on bike, i mean c'mon, its like ground hog day on here at times.
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Post by evans1863 on Jan 15, 2009 20:44:06 GMT
It should have happened 6 years ago. Also there should be a fixed fee on how much clubs can charge on entry.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 15, 2009 22:38:48 GMT
Wage cap or no wage cap - things 'might' become more even, but someone's always got a better way than the other? Meaning wages won't be the only thing to bring a player in.
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Post by Malex on Jan 15, 2009 22:56:21 GMT
Will be interesting to see if some of 'the big four' managers suggest this now that they know theres a club around that they can't realistically compete with financially. It was all well and good when they were able to buy practically anyone they wanted to, but now that they'll be finding themselves 'blown out of the water' when trying to get top players it could see a dramatic change in their attitude towards the financial regulations of football. That along with a new club to break up their monopoly at the top of the league, could be interesting times over the next couple of seasons.
Either that or more foreign investors are going to come along with more money than sense and indulge in, as someone else said on another thread, their own glorified real life version of FM completely ruining the game in the process.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 15, 2009 22:58:39 GMT
didn't someone ask this last night, christ its like ground hog day on here at times Show me the thread!
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Post by serpico on Jan 15, 2009 23:05:38 GMT
No.
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Post by GazMcNicol on Jan 15, 2009 23:42:40 GMT
Yes, they should be capped, and at a level thats feasible for the rest of the world. The savings should be passed on to the fans, better facilities, cheaper entrance fees, cheaper travel, I could go on and on!!
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Post by Potters_Ref on Jan 16, 2009 3:56:52 GMT
The answer is NO!
Sorry but all capping will do is drive it underground again, as it did many years ago when wages were capped for a time. Stoke had a player who was paid an extra £15 a week, (alot back then) through one of the directors pot-banks, as though he worked there as a manager! Truth was he never set foot in the place!
It's best all out in the open, even if we don't like it, and it makes us feel sick when we bust a gut for £9p/h!
More fool ManCity if they want ot throw money at a rival. If they offered that for any Stoke player I'd take it and build a new squad! Balance there somewhere!
Wages is one thing... I would however like to see something done on transfer fees. Have values set by FIFA based on opta-stats or something, and clubs HAVE to stick to them. I suppose you could try the same system for wages but offer whatever bonuses you wish?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 16, 2009 4:33:58 GMT
I think football still has the ability to be unpredictable and we have got caught up in the idea that spending money is a guarantee of success.
At the end of the day Man City can spend however much they want but they can still only put 11 players on a pitch at once - the same as the opposition. Yes they may be the 11 best players in the world and the most expensive but does it mean they will win the league every year?
I still think these big spending clubs will be found out in the long-run. Any company that spends more than it earns will fail in the long-term however wealthy its benefactor is. The EPL is just the next big thing at the moment with these guys because they know by investing in the UK they can benefit from a huge tax break. Sooner or later they will get bored and move on and leave the underlying business to fight on it's own. Abramovich already seems to have lost interest at Chelski, Arsenal will be in some trouble if they dont get in the champions league next season. ManU is actually a pretty well run business and tends to make a profit.
So the answer is not to be too fussed over ridiculous 100 mill transfers. Better run clubs can still continue and build slowly over time (Villa, Bolton, Middlesborough) and ultimately the big 4 will come back down to earth and join the rest of the crowd.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 16, 2009 5:17:32 GMT
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Jan 16, 2009 7:00:29 GMT
Should it happen: yes will it happen: no My view too.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 16, 2009 9:35:58 GMT
Should it happen? No
Will it happen? No
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Post by boothenesque on Jan 16, 2009 11:00:50 GMT
NO
Because people value someone that kicks a bag of air on grass more than they value people that do worthwhile things like saving lives, caring for people, making things, catching fish e.g. your Lifeboat guy that risks his life to save others is worth next to nothing, whereas a thick spoilt footballer earns more in a week (soon more in a single day)
One day this disparity might get so great that you will be dying and the worthless surgeon paid next to nothing in comparison will simply walk away and we will reap what we sow. Why we value these selfish footballers more that people that care for people and make things never cease to amaze and and disappoint.
I for one hope this deal goes ahead. Maybe then just a few poor people in East Manchester might start to wake up and ask serious questions about the morality of the sick society we live in.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 16, 2009 11:29:24 GMT
There was a should there be a transfer cap...but wage wasn't mentioned So what you're saying is that this wasn't covered yesterday and the poster was fully justified in starting a new thread?
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