griffin or wilko?????

[lawrence7]

who would you play at right back now, personally i would play wilko because he is young and a promising talent yes hes a little temperamental but i think he will learn from his mistakes griffin is gettin a bit too old now and cant keep up with the demands of the premeirship, or should we get a new right back in if so who?

[jimmygscfc]

Wilko young? What exactly constitutes young these days. His age is always used as an excuse for his poor decision making, dodgy distribution and suicidal tackling. He's old enough to know better and nowhere near a Premiership player.

[bayernoatcake]

Yet against Man Yoo and Liverpool has impressed. I'd still go for Griff but Wilko gets a lot of bad press for not actually doing that many bad things.

[Deleted]

Wilko for me, he has fantastic games against manure and liverpool despite the cards. All wilko needs is to keep cool a little, which i hope will come with TP coaching and premiership experiance. Griff is too slow for the prem and genrally isnt good enough, but thatS my opinion

[frasiertruffles]

Deffinitely Wilko. He's getting better and better.

Griff isn't ;D

[dexter97]

Griff's not ideal, but he is good enough (just about) given the way we play. He's a safer option than Wilko too - had a certain Mr Foy been in charge against Liverpool, I think we might have seen Wilko get sent-off again.

[stokecity4life]

Very very difficult decision.

They are both liabilities at times.

Both brilliant at times.

[smapples]

I dont think either, Tone said two or three new players.

One of them must be a right back, higgy is quality on left, Ab Faye and Shwcross in the centre.

[RAF]

They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Griff has the premiership experience , but is slow and easily caught out by a pacey winger anywhere but the Brit, and goes missing for portions of games and lets players he is supposed to be marking drift away and then cut back inside.
That said he has had a few good games this season.

Wilko is rash and loses his head, but he has more pace than Griffin is alot more aggressive in the tackle and is dogged about sticking to his man.
A calming influence in the centre , someone like Taggart for instance would do him the world of good, maybe Faye can take him under his wing?

That all said Wilko just shades it for me.

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[A-teen_six_T3]

I think Griffin this season, and Wilko next... Wilko just needs to calm down a bit, and not get over excited...he's like a little staffy bull pup thats been lbeen on lead for ages, and suddenly gets let off....

[n01stokie]

i've not yet seen wilkinson pass a ball to a stoke player!

what is the use in being good a tackling if you give them the ball back straight away?

[pushon]

I know he seems to have been around in the game forever, but of the "regular?" starters, Griffin is younger than
Cresswell-Rory- both of the Fayes- Salif and slightly younger than Higgy, so he's hardly in the veteran category.
Conversely Wilko will be 25 this summer, so can hardly be categorised as a young player.
To answer the question though, I think it has to be Griff, he has a lot more composure, Wilko for all his effort is just to rash in the challenge.

[apb1]

I think Wilko has done enough to start IF Griffin is not 100% fit.

The latter is slightly better on the ball - Wilko, while not young, is not experienced and I think between them they can cover there. Davies needs games to get sharp and we can't afford them to be now - maybe when we're safe he can play the final 8 games ;D

A specialist left or right back would still definitely strengthen the squad, so if one is available, let's get them in.

[pushon]

Well put, apb1

[FullerMagic]

Maybe neither if this reported interested in this French bloke is genuine.

I definitely think RB is a position that's most pressingly in need of an upgrade

[boscfc]

If he can learn to control the red mist .. Wilko every time.

[th05]

Griff for me. I can't recall seeing him caught out of position bar I think against West Brom, Wilko tends to get caught out once or twice a game. Griffin is a good influence on the side in general (despite what happened the other week ;D) He is also good at deciding when to go forward or not. I personally think we should sign a left back as Higgy tends to hoof rather than move forward. We have three terrific centre halves in Abd, Shawcross and Higgy. Don't know which one I wouldn't pick if we did sign a left back.

[smapples]

Jan 13, 2009 11:27:54 GMT FullerMagic said:

Maybe neither if this reported interested in this French bloke is genuine.

I definitely think RB is a position that's most pressingly in need of an upgrade

Told Ya!

[eddy_under_fire'sviews]

i agree, he is sometimes a little too rash in the challenge, but 95% of the time, he is making that tackle, very cleanly and fairly. all too often griff can't actually get back to make that tackle, as he seems to wander off too much.

having said that, the 5% of the time wilkinson gives away the foul, it seems to be in a dodgy area :S

still. i'd rather go for Wilko, purely because i think with matches, and Abdy watching over him (like some kind of big black assassin) he will learn to control that temperament.

[vestanpance]

Neither.

Wilko is a Centre Half making do and Griffin...well i just don't like him i'm afraid.

New boy in, with perhaps young Master Shotton in reserve?

[Winge]

Milko ...deffo....bye bye Griff .... go back to Derby

[steinovschmeichel]

not griff anyway. he too slow and always out of position. we have conceeded too many goals on that side with griff playin. higgy seems more solid the other side and he a centre back

[luke45]

Griffin for me.

[Lakeland Potter]

If Wilko could cut out some of the hotheadedness he'd be a decent defender but a full back in the top flight needs to be able to attack and distribute the ball well and Wilko just can't do that. At 25(?) will he ever learn to contribute to our attacking play? I doubt it.

Like others above I really hope that TP does get a new right back this month - Griff is showing his age (although he has had a decent season) and Davies doesn't look the answer at right back. To be honest I'd like two new full backs because Higgy looks better in the centre where his poor attacking skills don't matter so much.

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[jacksscfc]

Wilko for me (sorry Griff) I think Wilko will be a class act in the coming years the more he plays the more he impresses me.
I couldnt see griff handling ronaldo nlike wilko did before he got sent off for losing his head, if he gets that part of his game right I feel we will have one of the best RB in the Prem.

[jimmygscfc]

'I couldnt see griff handling ronaldo nlike wilko did before he got sent off for losing his head,'

Classic! Think about what you write before you write it.

[fromafar07]

imo, i think wit hsome guidance from coaches and players like Griff, he CAN become a really good player. left to just do it on his own, unless he has superior self discipline, he will not !!

[georgeberrysafro]

Griff for me, he's put in some solid displays and played well, he was getting an unbelievable amount of stick on here and came back well after the Bolton match to shut a few up. But saying that Wilko impressed me again v Man United and Liverpool and I'm more than happy for him to step in even if he did cost us the point v Man United. They both play better when Faye/Shawcross are the CB but seem a little exposed if Sonko/COrt come in but that's to be expected.

So where does Davis fit in then? I thought he was bought to cover RB?

[rambo61]

Griffin at home where there is no width to the pitch,so that his pathetic lack of pace doesn,t matter so much.Away from home it has to be anyone other than Griffin. He gets beaten every time he comes up against anyone with a bit of speed (and sometimes without speed!!) Good at turning his back to the ball though!!

[fradleyhomes]

I think Griff is the better all round player overall, however Wilko deserves to keep his place at the moment as he is playing well.
There needs to be a aspect of competition about the starting eleven otherwise there is no motivation.