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Post by fentonstokie on Jan 17, 2008 15:02:09 GMT
please tell me the S doesn't stand for super! i can think of another word but not super.
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Post by Homzy on Jan 17, 2008 15:10:09 GMT
I've seen a few people criticising him today but I thought he was our man of the match by some distace last night.
Cort and Shawcross did ok I suppose but I'm loathe to praise any defenders because we were a complete shambles at the back!
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Post by trout-licker on Jan 17, 2008 15:12:59 GMT
I think its time to drop the S  |
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Post by knowles on Jan 17, 2008 15:15:11 GMT
Sadly, he will never recover properly from his injury.
I think he is due for a rest having played numerous games on the trot
He has plenty of good ideas in his head but can't implement them all the time which is extremely frustrating (for him and us)
I think he also lacks concentration at points in the game
It is a shame because before his injury he was absolute quality.
I wouldn't call him shit, he is just average to be honest
Mark- I didn't think he was our man of the match last night, in fact probably one of our poorer performers but that is why football is brilliant. We all see different matches!
Also, anyone noticed he tends to randomly hoof the ball high up in the air (usually once in a match)?!!!
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Post by Homzy on Jan 17, 2008 15:18:43 GMT
We certainly do James!
I agree with you that he'll never be the same player by the way, I'm certainly not sticking up sticking up for his form in general as he's had some very poor games.
But I did think he was the one player to show a bit of fighting spirit last night - the rest of them looked like they were playing a training game.
Maybe I'm just being nostalgic because I bloody love the bloke...hence the avatar!
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Post by eriksson74 on Jan 17, 2008 15:22:13 GMT
Good tackle on Emre though and a nice deaprting message to him when he got sent ;D
He does tend to lob a blind pass or two these days though and its a shame he can;t get abck to how he was
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Post by banburypotter on Jan 17, 2008 15:23:00 GMT
rare that a captain gets dropped though!
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Post by knowles on Jan 17, 2008 15:25:49 GMT
True, but Matteo is our official captain and Eusty is only acting
Could easily give the armband to Cort if necessary
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Post by icelandpotter on Jan 17, 2008 16:12:21 GMT
SJE was best player for us last night I reckon.
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Post by webanks63 on Jan 17, 2008 21:53:56 GMT
SUPER JE was the best player last night and when we get someone in the midfield to help him the better. He covered every inch of that park last night and where was Delap?
If only PUGH had started in midfield with him !!!
At times he was pointing out to Delap who to mark and where to go, Delap is the weak link...
But that just my opinion...
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Post by fentonstokie on Jan 17, 2008 22:01:10 GMT
Thats what makes this game great, different opinons. But honestly can you remember him passing to anyone in a red and white shirt?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 17, 2008 22:04:05 GMT
I can remember lots of passes to players in red and only for his colleagues to proceed to phuck it up completely. The most notable culprits being Zakhani, Pugh, Delap, Parkin and Cresswell.
I am afraid that any midfielder would struggle when surrounded by that lot, particularly against a better side than we normally encounter in the championship.
Eustace was our best player by a country mile, and along with Simmo, Cort, Shawcross and Lawrence could be described as one of only 5 that did bother to turn up last night!
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 17, 2008 22:07:15 GMT
While Emre was busy committing a vile and disgusting assault on Eustace in a pathetic retaliation for a clean tackle, Eustace did actually play Fuller clean through. Had we played on, it would be 1-1.
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Post by Davef on Jan 17, 2008 22:08:54 GMT
He'll always be SJE.
He's worked his bollocks off to get fit and back in the first team, but sadly his injuries and virtual two year absence from the first team has taken it's toll. You can still see that he's a talented footballer but he's lost that yard of pace that made him a cut above many at our level.
He doesn't deserve the shit that he's currently getting from some supporters.
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Post by werkinard on Jan 17, 2008 22:09:05 GMT
Thought Eustace was OK yesterday whereas Delap was an embarassment. We cannot continue to carry this guy any longer. Even his long throw is a waste when Mama is not around
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Jan 17, 2008 22:12:37 GMT
Yep. Maybe its time to give eustace a break. I love the man and I think he has showed tremendous character to come back after such dreadful injury luck. However, by putting pugh in the centre with Diao would improve out midfield significantly. This would allow us to play Griff at LB and give our team much needed solidarity. Alternatively, we could play pugh at LM and puch cressy up and allowing eustace to partner Diao in midfield.
SGS
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 17, 2008 22:40:33 GMT
I'm holding off judgement till I've seen him alongside Salif for a while, instead of trying to hold a makeshift midfield together all the time. Like SGS says, he's shown fantastic character but with only a couple of exceptions he hasn't done it for me this season, and sadly I don't think he's a long term answer for us.
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Post by garyhackett on Jan 17, 2008 22:54:35 GMT
I agree with Sal, he is currently holding together the midfield on his own, lets see how he does alongside Diao for 6 or 7 games. If and when Whelan signs then he will be a squad player anyway.
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Post by RWChris on Jan 17, 2008 23:10:39 GMT
I agree with Davef but still hold out hope that SJE alongside Diao will bring out the best in him (although realistically not the same standards he set before he got injured).
He's a hugely popular guy and I think some, like myself, have trouble accepting that he's not the player he used to be.
I hope that supporters don't start to give him any kind of abuse after what he's been through. His attitude and determination to get back into our team has been inspirational and even if his Stoke career ends with a whimper I'll always think of him as SUPER Jonny Eustace.
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Post by Lawto on Jan 18, 2008 11:55:28 GMT
Just wanted to reiterate the majority of points raised above. He will always be Super Johnny Eustace and should NEVER suffer any abuse from ANY Stoke City supporter.
However, he's not yet(?) reached the level of performance that the pre-injury SJE used to hit.
The SJE of old would take games by the scruff of the neck and completely boss the midfield. Used to score plenty of goals too. Too often this season the game has passed SJE by. Whether that's because he can't do it on his own (the inclusion of Salif may help him), or whether he just hasn't got it anymore is the big question. The next couple of months will probably give us the answer.
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Jan 18, 2008 12:39:42 GMT
eustace does one good pass and 3 bad passes
Then one good tackle and 3 bad tackles
The guy is past it, the sooner he is replaced with a more creative, athletic type
player the better
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