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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 10, 2009 21:41:45 GMT
Beattie not the last transfer during this window heard there’s a few on there way out (sorry no names yet) but there’s a lot of talk about a top class full back being at the top of Pulis’s shopping list, I was lead to believe it was Shorey he’s targeted. This came from a very reliable source within the club. Gouranga.  |
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Post by daverichards on Jan 10, 2009 21:42:46 GMT
His name was mentioned the other day, been told he can leave Villa, surplus to requirments
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Post by Beardy200 on Jan 10, 2009 21:43:27 GMT
He'd do me very nicely. Wouldn't be my main priority by any means but i've no idea what the budget is so maybe it's a possibility.
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Post by Dannyboy on Jan 10, 2009 21:43:30 GMT
what a signing that would be doubt it will happen IMO??
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Post by grandad on Jan 10, 2009 21:45:28 GMT
would prefer a right back tbh
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Post by scfc sigley on Jan 10, 2009 21:50:47 GMT
garrido from man city was a target in the summer and hes a left back
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 10, 2009 21:52:28 GMT
We do need a LB, although Higgy is doing a great job there sees his best position at CB, Shorey would be a great signing IMO Gouranga. |
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jan 10, 2009 21:52:44 GMT
Shorey has been a solid fullback for a while -not worked out at Villa but could be just what we need. Ou distribution from fullback is pretty poor
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Post by ti on Jan 10, 2009 21:59:50 GMT
if we could get him id be increadibly happy. shawcross has been briliant but higgy in the center with abdy would be fuckin immence
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Post by jay1610 on Jan 10, 2009 22:08:09 GMT
If we sign a LB then we've got Shawcross, Sonko, AB Faye, Higginbotham, Davies, Wilko and Cort all going for two slots. Providing Griffin is RB.
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Post by Northy on Jan 11, 2009 9:21:11 GMT
RB is a bit more pressing than a left back for me now we have etherington on the left wing to ease pressure down that side.
We need a right full back who is fit, can overlap and then can recover quickly.
Soomebody with a bit more pace than Griff and Wilko, hey but so does every other club
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Post by sportsman on Jan 11, 2009 9:25:59 GMT
Watched the game back when i got in last night. Although they all played well, when i watched the game back i cringed evertime Higgy and Shawcross had the ball at their feet. Everytime, whoooshh as hard as they could and to nowhere.
I'm sure our play will change with the new signings and other players back from injury and suspension, but even so, stop doing it!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 9:27:21 GMT
Higgy is solid enough in defence but his distribution of late has been a bit suspect. He mostly just hoofs the ball out of defence whereas wilko or griff at least try to bring it out.
I dunno, maybe he's been told to just get rid of it.
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Post by griffoisalegend on Jan 11, 2009 9:33:07 GMT
I think Higgy is fine at full back, and Stoke destroyed Shorey so what will other teams do. I don't rate him(Shorey) defensively to be honest - i think our defence is good , we can fine tune it all we want but that may make us to concede huge masses of results, and to be fair - Griffin's put in some great performances when he was fully fit.
It's going forward where we struggle, in order to win games we need to score goals, i have every faith in the defence playing well when there's 11 men on the pitch..... Just not that fat arse Davies, he got the wrong side of Tevez for the goal( annoying error) and he's plainly a fat arse who runs around like a pansy at full back.
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Post by northstokie on Jan 11, 2009 9:56:16 GMT
Were you told full back or left back?
Shorey is a good player but not someone I rated highly, a bit one paced for me...
That said, MON is no fool and saw fit to shell out plenty to get him and was picked on more than one occasion for the national side...
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Post by themightyboosh on Jan 11, 2009 10:08:42 GMT
Is Shorey more of an attacking full back then?
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Post by beagriestache on Jan 11, 2009 10:16:16 GMT
Higgy's distribution is awful. Fair enough he's playing out of position but he was a glaring weak link every time he got the ball. Shorey and Etherington on the left and Griff and Lawrence on the right would be an improvement.
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 11, 2009 10:17:37 GMT
Watched the game back when i got in last night. Although they all played well, when i watched the game back i cringed evertime Higgy and Shawcross had the ball at their feet. Everytime, whoooshh as hard as they could and to nowhere. I'm sure our play will change with the new signings and other players back from injury and suspension, but even so, stop doing it!! Bang on. Thing is though, at Sunderland Higgy bought the ball out, so there has to be more to it. Either he's doing what he has been told, or for some reason feels under greater pressure to get rid. |
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Post by apb1 on Jan 11, 2009 12:07:24 GMT
But we were playing Liverpool - Higgy has been observed rampaging down the left in other games, linking up well with Delap sometimes too.
However, buying a full back would be one of my choices for splashing the cash, and we could get rid of a couple of spare CHs.
Oh and let's give Davies a bit of time - remember how Delap was called Decrap by people on here when returning from injury and playing poorly, now he's generally regarded as immense.
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Post by luke45 on Jan 11, 2009 12:13:17 GMT
I really hope this is true Shorey would be an excellent signing, and gives pulis a chance to rotate higgy and shawcross with abdoulaye faye.
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Post by fradleyhomes on Jan 11, 2009 12:16:40 GMT
Shorey has been muck for Villa, and their fans don't want him anywhere near the first team. He has been that bad that reo coker who is a centre mid is playing right back and Luke young who is a right back is playing left back.
No thanks i don't want him, i am happy with Higgy, i'd rather the money be spent else where
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Post by Bick on Jan 11, 2009 12:21:44 GMT
Higgy is doing well there though? Right back more of a priority!
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Post by Do eet for Eetinneriseet on Jan 11, 2009 12:29:02 GMT
Right back more of a priority
Griffin not bad but thats it
Wilkinson is a liabilty,cost us dearly against utd and nearly yesterday,hacked down babel,gerrard hits bar from free-kick
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 11, 2009 12:40:32 GMT
STEVE FINNAN - Can play equally well at both left and right back so is good cover for the absent Griffin and also to release Higgy to centre half if necessary.
WILKO was superb today though and but for that last minute skier, was much more composed on the ball! I am convinced we can make a player out of Wilko...He just needs some good coaching! Enter the fray, Mr Pulis!
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Post by pushon on Jan 11, 2009 12:47:22 GMT
I read somwhere today that our pass completion was 61% and Liverpools was 81%. I'm afraid that most of that failed 39% completion is down to Higgy with Shawcross chasing hard for that distinction. On the plus side they're both more than adequate at defending.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 11, 2009 12:50:57 GMT
STEVE FINNAN - Can play equally well at both left and right back so is good cover for the absent Griffin and also to release Higgy to centre half if necessary. Steve Finnan is twice (and then some) the player that Griff is. Redknapp has been in for him but Espanyol have stated categorically that he's not for sale. Would love to see him at Stoke mind. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 11, 2009 12:57:24 GMT
Paul - I didn't mean that Finnan would be cover from Griff, as like you, he agree that he is a class above.
Simply referring to the fact that he could cover right back whilst Griffin is injured, then be switched to left back if Pulis wanted to release Higgy into the middle.
If we got someone like Finnan, I would play him at right back, and leave the other 3 as they are.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 11, 2009 13:00:32 GMT
Paul - I didn't mean that Finnan would be cover from Griff, as like you, he agree that he is a class above. Simply referring to the fact that he could cover right back whilst Griffin is injured, then be switched to left back if Pulis wanted to release Higgy into the middle. If we got someone like Finnan, I would play him at right back, and leave the other 3 as they are. Got yer now mate, sorry, my mistake. He'd be perfect for us, pity Espanyol aren't prepared to consider offers. |
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Post by Miniman on Jan 11, 2009 13:01:17 GMT
Higgy is doing incredibly at left-back...
Solid in a tackle and skilful with Etherington and Whelan in the triangle.
He has done the same with Delap and Whelan/Faye/Diao all season and has worked all the time. It does not wirk with Cresswell left wing but Delap/Higgy or Etherington/Higgy are both fantastic left side combinations, as too is Griffin/Lawrence as last season showed, they were excellent together...
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 11, 2009 13:27:03 GMT
My sources which are much better than your sources ;D suggest there are absolutely no plans to do anything about the problem on either side of the pitch at full back during this transfer window.
While Higgy is a wholehearted defender he is quite simply a bloody liability when we have the ball. One of the reasons (and there are plenty)our away record is so poor is that you have to have a good outlet through your full back positions to take the pressure off and build some possession. Giving the ball to Higgy is quite simply giving the ball back to your opponents.
The sooner we can put Higgy out of his square peg misery the better. He should be competing for a central defensive position and nothing else.
I assume that the major issue of Higgy will be first addressed when this comes to the top of the managers priority list in the summer. We can also make improvements at right back but the cover there is far better than we have on the left side.
I wonder what will hapen in front of him if Ledley decides to sign up next week? Can Etherington play right side as well?
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