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Post by themikester on Jan 4, 2009 22:09:32 GMT
My biggest concern is not relegation but that we look such a poor side that we could struggle in the Championship.
If we survive this season there has to be a shift towards actually playing a bit of football.
I listened on the radio and every time the ball was played up to Pericard he lost control straight away.
It is basically very poor.
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Post by crashbandicoot on Jan 4, 2009 22:11:29 GMT
IMO as long as we have TP in charge we will never finish below mid-table in the Championship
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Post by luke45 on Jan 4, 2009 22:12:39 GMT
Your basing the fact we look a poor side on recent games, but remember the performances against Liverpool, Villa and Arsenal? it was still the same bunch of lads, showing us what they CAN do, they've shown us what their capable of, and i'm confident we can rekindle that form and stay up.
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Post by crimesy on Jan 4, 2009 22:13:20 GMT
considering we have four strikers out and it being Stoke in the FA cup, did ANYONE actually expect a win at hartlepool? i know i didnt. Leeds got relegated because they were in such huge debt and had to sell their best players without having time to sign a few. Their squad team couldnt cope and thats why they continued to do so poor. Derby had luck in getting promoted which soon ran out in the Prem.
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Post by birly on Jan 4, 2009 22:13:48 GMT
Thats very disconcerting to be honest.Mid table in the Championship considering how bloody poor it is?IF we go down,Pulis has got to get us back up straight away or leave.
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Post by Stokecity_m on Jan 4, 2009 22:14:24 GMT
The trouble is we are set-up to play the long ball as that's the most effective was for us to play in the prem
It works (mainly at home) however when we come across teams used to playing against the long ball ( championship clubs and lower) we struggle to adapt.
If we do go down i'm sure with Tony at the helm we will do just fine - just like he's proved before.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 4, 2009 22:15:16 GMT
This should be a massive concern for Stoke supporters. £28million spent in 18 months with the likelihood of pushing that way beyond £30million by the end of January. Stoke City can't afford to waste that kind of money - Sky money or not.
Leeds, Leicester, Bradford - teams that have had starstruck managers out of their depth wasting money hand over fist. Now in a world of shit.
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Post by twinedwitherlangen on Jan 4, 2009 22:15:30 GMT
I didnt expect us to win at Hartlepool, me boss who's a Newcastle fan said 'i expect an upset tomorrow' - i were like 'what? Stoke are gonna win?' Thats the faith i had in that particular match, anyhows, on to more important things, Liverpool on Sat, i personally can't wait
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jan 4, 2009 22:15:53 GMT
We would never do a Leeds as we would never pay a ridiculous amount of money we could not afford like they did with Ferdinand
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Post by kingdeano on Jan 4, 2009 22:16:34 GMT
good old saying..... if you buy championship players then your a champonship team! etc etc. i dont think we would doa leeds but doing a derby is very realistic
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 4, 2009 22:19:08 GMT
We would never do a Leeds as we would never pay a ridiculous amount of money we could not afford like they did with Ferdinand It's all relative mate - Leeds were in the semi-final of the Champs League. They had money coming in. They actually sold Rio for an £11million profit. Pulis has wasted £15million this season already - can we really afford to do that? |
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Post by themikester on Jan 4, 2009 22:24:01 GMT
Tony Pulis worries me and yes he should stay until the end of the season,even if we go down.He has performed wonders,even if last year it was a poor league.
He worries me because I don't think he is capable of encouraging attractive football.
His tactics are often negative not by choice but his team selections are often uninspiring
and you have to ask yourself can he cut it at this level.
If we survive would you really want to watch this level of performance,week in week out for many years to come.
Sorry I wouldn't.
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Jan 4, 2009 22:24:13 GMT
I think that sometimes, once you're relegated you never really get the support of the players that you had before. If you look at the likes of Jewell, Boothroyd and Pardew (although, admittedly, Jewell inherited a terrible squad) they've all been sacked because of poor form after their relegation. Maybe Pulis would be better at keeping the spirit and motivation up but it just seems that some trust and confidence gets lost somewhere in alot of cases.
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Post by bogus on Jan 4, 2009 22:25:44 GMT
This should be a massive concern for Stoke supporters. £28million spent in 18 months with the likelihood of pushing that way beyond £30million by the end of January. Stoke City can't afford to waste that kind of money - Sky money or not. Leeds, Leicester, Bradford - teams that have had starstruck managers out of their depth wasting money hand over fist. Now in a world of shit. Stoke's current situation is nothing like Bradford, Leicester and Leeds. They all spent FAR in excess of the Sky money they were given and, certainly in the cases of Bradford and Leeds, they had chairmen that acted stupidly and got carried away. We have Coates, he doesn't usually do getting carried away. The other difference is that the parachute payments are far, far greater nowadays. A situation that was created with Leeds, Bradford et al in mind. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 4, 2009 22:28:21 GMT
This should be a massive concern for Stoke supporters. £28million spent in 18 months with the likelihood of pushing that way beyond £30million by the end of January. Stoke City can't afford to waste that kind of money - Sky money or not. Leeds, Leicester, Bradford - teams that have had starstruck managers out of their depth wasting money hand over fist. Now in a world of shit. Stoke's current situation is nothing like Bradford, Leicester and Leeds. They all spent FAR in excess of the Sky money they were given and, certainly in the cases of Bradford and Leeds, they had chairmen that acted stupidly and got carried away. We have Coates, he doesn't usually do getting carried away. The other difference is that the parachute payments are far, far greater nowadays. A situation that was created with Leeds, Bradford et al in mind. I hope you are right bogus. It would be a monumental balls up by all involved if it ever did. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 4, 2009 22:33:18 GMT
In the case of leeds it had nothing to do with anything on the pitch, moreso off it. Leeds borrowed huge amounts of money against future gate receipts, in other words they gambled and lost, meaning they were royally fecked.
We are financially sound and have no debt, so no, we wont "do a leeds".
Derby...that's a different kettle of fish ;D
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jan 5, 2009 1:01:24 GMT
There is no Chance!!. Under Pulis i carnt see us finishing below mid-table in the championship tbh.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 5, 2009 1:04:51 GMT
Why would we struggle in the Championship? We would be stronger and better equiped than when we finished 2nd
Besides, I didn't even think we were relegated yet? Theres no need for such negative points. We are 1 flukey win away from mid table.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 5, 2009 1:25:26 GMT
Stoke's current situation is nothing like Bradford, Leicester and Leeds. They all spent FAR in excess of the Sky money they were given and, certainly in the cases of Bradford and Leeds, they had chairmen that acted stupidly and got carried away. We have Coates, he doesn't usually do getting carried away. The other difference is that the parachute payments are far, far greater nowadays. A situation that was created with Leeds, Bradford et al in mind. I hope you are right bogus. It would be a monumental balls up by all involved if it ever did. He is right, Pugsley. He is 100% right that our situation is absolutely nothing like that of Leeds, Bradford etc - we are pretty well-run financially and there isn't an inkling of the crazy Ridsdale "tell-us-how-much-you-want" stewardship in Peter Coates. You don't have to think very hard about it to see that, as promoted clubs go, we're being run fairly prudently from a financial point of view, and that we are absolutely not candidates for collapse if we should go down. All of that is...well...right. What is the opposite of right, ie wrong, is to go posting spurious nonsense about the financial calamity awaiting SCFC if we should happen to go down, based on the fact that you don't like the way that the current 1st team manager does things. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 5, 2009 1:48:28 GMT
No chance of it happening. Not while we have PC at the helm. He knows what he's doing off the field with the money and would not spunk vast amounts of money that we don't have up the wall Wasn't there something about Ridsdale spending £30k a month by renting Goldfish when he was at Leeds? Daft bastard..  |
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Post by mumf14 on Jan 5, 2009 1:55:58 GMT
I agree Rick...Coates has come too far, to see it all disappear.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 5, 2009 2:01:39 GMT
That's a fuck of a lot of goldfish!
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 5, 2009 2:08:18 GMT
That's what I always thought Paul! The fact that they were even rented is beyond a financial joke really. Just shows how corrupt and insane Ridsdale actually is |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 5, 2009 2:12:03 GMT
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