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Post by Matthews dad on Jan 3, 2009 17:28:57 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 3, 2009 17:32:36 GMT
lazy management...i would say
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2009 17:32:42 GMT
OK smart arse, you tell us what the Managers Plan B is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 17:33:31 GMT
OK smart arse, you tell us what the Managers Plan B is. Hoof it up to Pericard  |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2009 17:37:04 GMT
OK smart arse, you tell us what the Managers Plan B is. Hoof it up to Pericard That's the current Plan A. |
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Post by starkiller on Jan 3, 2009 18:12:49 GMT
I don't think we even have a Plan A.
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Post by Parksy on Jan 3, 2009 18:16:35 GMT
So please enlighten us to what the managers tactics actually are then, because I cannot even see a plan A
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Post by anarchicalan on Jan 3, 2009 18:19:23 GMT
GENTLEMEN!
Please get it right ....... it's not tactics ..... it's TACTIC - singular!
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2009 18:27:55 GMT
After numerous discussions on here over recent weeks, today's midfield personnel and shape was close to what TP's doubters have been suggesting. Today was a big day for some posters as their choice of midfield was chosen by our manager. Unfortunately, their plans have not been an overwhelming success and hopefully, this will put an end to the demands for a midfield of Oli, Whelan, Soares and Tonge. Imagine how many goals we would have conceded today if this had been a Premiership game. I know Pericard was useless today, but this was still the midfield that the 'experts' on here have been demanding. I still feel that we have to keep things tight in the Prem, match after match, otherwise we will suffer some real hammerings. What an opportunity it was especially for Soares and Tonge  |
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 3, 2009 18:31:15 GMT
march4 - whilst no-one covered themselves in glory today, the fact that the two full-backs spent most of the game hoofing the ball over the heads of the midfield, somewhat nullifies your arguement.
I agree about keeping things tight.
Sadly what we do is give the ball away and then back off the opposition. The two are very different. Our goals against figures prove that we are not capable of keeping it tight.
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Post by white wall boy on Jan 3, 2009 18:31:25 GMT
After numerous discussions on here over recent weeks, today's midfield personnel and shape was close to what TP's doubters have been suggesting. Today was a big day for some posters as their choice of midfield was chosen by our manager. Unfortunately, their plans have not been an overwhelming success and hopefully, this will put an end to the demands for a midfield of Oli, Whelan, Soares and Tonge. Imagine how many goals we would have conceded today if this had been a Premiership game. I know Pericard was useless today, but this was still the midfield that the 'experts' on here have been demanding. I still feel that we have to keep things tight in the Prem, match after match, otherwise we will suffer some real hammerings. What an opportunity it was especially for Soares and Tonge great opportunity but I'd argue that if your bypassing midfield all the time its going to be hard for them to make too much of an impression. Pleased with the change in staff in midfield buts it pointless unless you allow them to play to their strengths. Dave Kitson suffers the same - round peg square hole |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 18:33:32 GMT
After numerous discussions on here over recent weeks, today's midfield personnel and shape was close to what TP's doubters have been suggesting. Today was a big day for some posters as their choice of midfield was chosen by our manager. Unfortunately, their plans have not been an overwhelming success and hopefully, this will put an end to the demands for a midfield of Oli, Whelan, Soares and Tonge. Imagine how many goals we would have conceded today if this had been a Premiership game. I know Pericard was useless today, but this was still the midfield that the 'experts' on here have been demanding. I still feel that we have to keep things tight in the Prem, match after match, otherwise we will suffer some real hammerings. What an opportunity it was especially for Soares and Tonge March4 (great choice of name by the way) I have to agree in some ways that it was a dissapointment that Tonge and Soares did not provide the width, however by the sounds of it the tactic was to hit it to Pericard as soon as possible, only problem was Pericard could not even get the better of a League 1 defender  . |
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2009 18:39:49 GMT
Fuller and Sidibe up front would have given us a better idea of what that midfield could offer on an attacking basis. It is defensively that the 4 together are so weak. They were overun today by a team that even Crewe could thrash. If you are very brave imagine the next 2 games with the 4 of them standing as spectators as the opposition midfielders make runs through them again and again.
We so need to get everyone fit and healthy and suspensions finished. I would like to have seen a new signing or two today so that they could get used to their colleagues. (Obviously, it will take them a decade or two to get used to Vince)
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Post by Winge on Jan 3, 2009 18:40:14 GMT
Theres no plan at all...thats the problem! Dickinson goes straight into the side, yet has not been in the squad for ages. Playing players out of position to play them for a long throw does not work either. I agree round hole, square peg!!
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 3, 2009 18:50:23 GMT
Plan A is to draw the opposition back four forward to the halfway line, win the ball in our own half, play it quickly to the full back who then hits it long, into the channel in front of him,for Ricardo to use his pace on the diagonal run from a central position against the retreating opposition full back and the covering central defender.
When this move is unavailable,because the opposition back four is set in its own half, Plan B is employed.
This involves playing the ball in a more leisurely way to our own full back who then hits it long diagonally to Mamady.
Both tactics can and have worked but are totally dependent on the correct personnel being available.
There are also very rare occasions when the players win the ball unexpectedly and try to play off the cuff. The success of these attempts is mixed as the players more often than not appear confused and unsure what to do.
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