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Post by daverichards on Jan 1, 2009 9:39:20 GMT
That is the question.
Now in seasons gone by I have been vermently in favour of all clubs taking it seriously, and under normal circumstances I'd think the same this season, but with so many injuries and suspensions, I have this nagging feeling that we should just stick out the reserves, same sort of team as early rounds of the league cup.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 1, 2009 9:43:32 GMT
Take seriously. It's posible to stay up and also have a go in the cup. It won't detract from the league campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 9:44:49 GMT
Well with all due respect you know my general thoughts on this matter.
However, a slightly different spin on iut this time would be that it does give fringe players a chance to play and the Hartlepool game would count as one of Riccis Suspensions.
Therefore this season, it actually DOES have some SLIGHT value to us
As regards the 'romance of the cup' though -as usual - MY ARSE !
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Post by You want salad on kebab boss? on Jan 1, 2009 9:44:57 GMT
Its our only chance of silverware now so go for it ! Serious all the way.
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Post by thicknthin on Jan 1, 2009 9:45:41 GMT
seriously I think.
The FA Cup is not the same as the league, as matches are mainly Saurdays. We are not exactly great after a break and league games are not exactly thick and fast in this division are they. Unless you are in Europe
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Post by Northy on Jan 1, 2009 9:49:57 GMT
Half and half for me, put the fringe players and attacking team out against Hartlepool
Simonsen
Wilkinson Cort Sonko Dickinson
Lawrence Olifinjana Diao Tongue
Pericard (if nobody else)
Soares
and then if we get through TP will throw on the defensive team
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Post by Matthews dad on Jan 1, 2009 9:52:28 GMT
Take it serious (with a second string team).  |
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jan 1, 2009 9:56:17 GMT
A good win against hartlepool would put some fire in the belly for the league campaign. Go for it stoke
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Post by luke45 on Jan 1, 2009 10:58:25 GMT
Ide definately go for it, as seasons go by, the top 4 are taking less and less interest in domestic cups, so with a couple of decent draws, we could potentially go far in this.
Goooooarnnnnnnn Stoke
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2009 11:06:00 GMT
we need a win soon for our sanity
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Post by bogus on Jan 1, 2009 11:11:53 GMT
A win would be good for morale after recent results/happenings. Even with a few first teamers for confidence.
It will certainly be useful for 1 off Ric's ban and perhaps a good chance to give Liam a run out and some match time.
I don't think you ever need worry about winning cups until you get to the later stages, but a few easy draws and some wins may well give everyone a boost for the struggle we have ahead to stay up.
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Post by tony harrison on Jan 1, 2009 11:13:25 GMT
Not bothered with FA cup this season. Have wanted to do well in it for ages now but this season has to be premier league survival for me.
Doesn't matter too much at the moment but if we were to get to the later stages of the FA Cup then it could mess up our league games due to the amount that would need to be played in such a short time.
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Post by boothenender on Jan 1, 2009 11:17:06 GMT
every game should be played with passion and pride....
only a win is acceptable .... no one remembers runners up.....
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Jan 1, 2009 11:25:54 GMT
Seriously.
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Post by beagriestache on Jan 1, 2009 11:27:17 GMT
Get knocked out asap - the last thing we need is someone injured in a compo we've no chance of winning.
Also, it's a Saturday off to give injured players more time to recover for league matches.
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Post by buxtop on Jan 1, 2009 11:33:51 GMT
Take it serious (with a second string team). I agree! Permanent place for Pericard as well! Or do we want to feck it up? |
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Post by nathan on Jan 1, 2009 11:36:17 GMT
I'd play for a draw at Hartlepool. Play the second string, get a draw, chalk another off Ric's ban.
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 1, 2009 11:37:12 GMT
I can't believe how the Prem God has gotten into you all. Nothing else matters. Not even progressing in the greatest cup competition in the world. Have you all sold your souls to the greed and lure of this corrupt league?
OS.
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Post by tony harrison on Jan 1, 2009 11:53:05 GMT
I can't believe how the Prem God has gotten into you all. Nothing else matters. Not even progressing in the greatest cup competition in the world. Have you all sold your souls to the greed and lure of this corrupt league? OS. Understand your point OS but nice as it would be to progress in the FA cup, it can mess up your league position. Look at Barnsley last season, they had a relegation scrap were stuck at the bottom of the table with loads of matches to play in a short time. Would be good to progress in both FA cup and the league, then the problem with game congestion wouldn't be such an issue. |
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Jan 1, 2009 11:58:35 GMT
NOT - we aint going to win it, we have morew important things to take care of, play the youth squad and showcase what we have for the future
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Post by evans1863 on Jan 1, 2009 12:04:05 GMT
Yes!
Whats wrong with wanting some silverware? At the end of the day we've never won the cup, and we've shown in beating Arsenal that on our day we can take anyone at home.
To be honest if you offered me the cup or survival I'd take the cup, as it takes us to Europe and we'd get our name in the history books. Afterall, who remembers the teams that survived in about 30 years time?
No chance of winning? Wonder what the Cardiff fans thought 365 days ago.
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Post by evans1863 on Jan 1, 2009 12:07:20 GMT
Tony Harrison - As a championship team Barnsley played 8 more league fixtures than we would this season. As a premiership team its a lot easier to have a cup run fixtures wise
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Post by ted1965 on Jan 1, 2009 13:06:00 GMT
We need a win, a winning mentality has to be returned to the players and if we lose it may only be a reserve team we put out but it adds to the gloom. This is the FA Cup, yes it may have lost some of it’s previous gloss but only because the financial consequences of losing your Premiership place have become all consuming.
When you support a club it’s about memories and actually having a good cup run should not have a bearing on whether we survive or not in fact if the confidence is improved it can surely only help morale and give us back some real impetus which has been lost of late.
So seriously as we should take any game where people are travelling and paying good money to show their support for this club, if you’re not taking it seriously save them the trip and withdraw from the competition.
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Post by Peters Pipe on Jan 1, 2009 13:15:58 GMT
I think seriously; going out of the Cup to Hartlepool will NOT do wonders for team morale! Win needed now, and H-pool is the place to go and get it....
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Post by McLovin on Jan 1, 2009 16:20:39 GMT
I can't believe how the Prem God has gotten into you all. Nothing else matters. Not even progressing in the greatest cup competition in the world. Have you all sold your souls to the greed and lure of this corrupt league? OS. Understand your point OS but nice as it would be to progress in the FA cup, it can mess up your league position. Look at Barnsley last season, they had a relegation scrap were stuck at the bottom of the table with loads of matches to play in a short time. Would be good to progress in both FA cup and the league, then the problem with game congestion wouldn't be such an issue. But then again look at Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal. All won the cup and the league. |
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Post by teanstokie on Jan 1, 2009 16:46:35 GMT
We should take it seriously, I was heart broken when we lost to Derby in the Carling cup, so close to Wembley and all. Any way when did mid or lower table mediocrity replace the desire to win silverware or have we all sold our souls to the greed that is the Premiership. What's better to look back on a Trophy win (We still harp on about 1972) or finishing somewhere in the Prem. I admit I want both!!!
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Post by beagriestache on Jan 1, 2009 18:16:42 GMT
Why risk more injuries to first teamers on a tournament we're not gonna win. Last year was the first year since 1995 that someone other than Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or Man Utd won the thing. Greatest cup competition in the world? Hasn't been that for a long time.
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Post by Davef on Jan 1, 2009 18:17:07 GMT
No one in their right mind could seriously consider an early exit from the FA Cup at the hands of a team whose last match was a 4-1 defeat at home to Crewe as being of any benefit to us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2009 18:19:09 GMT
A win would be good, a draw would be an inconvenience and a loss would dent confidence but in the long run could be a blessing in disguise.
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Post by beagriestache on Jan 1, 2009 18:23:56 GMT
Actually Davef, it's not that hard to envisage a defeat being quite beneficial.
The teams around us in the Prem have long cup runs including replays, pick up injuries and suspensions, their players play more games and become jaded. Their league form suffers as a result.Our reserves get knocked out early doors, the first team get a rest, we write the Cup off as not being important, it's forgotten about so no dent to morale, we benefit long term.
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